| Klowney Sweden. May 22 2012 18:56. Posts 57 | Profile # |
Best normal skill: fatal bonds, adds so much extra dmg if you can grab a couple of heroes.
Worst normal skill: brilliance aura, close to useless now when everyone use soul ring/mana boots.
Best ulti: vendetta, hero not in DotA2 yet but it makes you invis and deals massive dmg(525) and he can pretty much solo all the heroes in the game combined with his other skills.
Worst Ulti: multicast, when it works it´s great but it adds high mana cost and it doesn´t always trigger. |
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| Space Invader Australia. May 22 2012 19:15. Posts 274 | Profile # |
enfeeble is a sickly good spell... it doesn't get used as much till lategame because nightmare and brain sap are too valuable, that's the only thing.
how is midnight pulse underrated? it gets used all the time
anyway i was talking more specifically about dota 2 skills with the current hero set, there are probably too many heroes in dota to think of the best/worst  |
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| ChrisXIV Austria. May 22 2012 19:23. Posts 2087 | Profile Blog # |
Hm, overall nothing beats Chronosphere, followed by...Black Hole maybe.
Worst is Lina's passive imo, should have a permanent effect, not based on stacks. |
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| EmilA Denmark. May 22 2012 20:19. Posts 2737 | Profile # |
Comeon, let's stick to Dota2 and let's not say "if X had Y skill it would be the best" :D
Worst skills: Chilling Touch, Fiery soul and hmm, perhaps dobbelwalk. Mana drain.
Best skills: Shackleshotx1000000000000000. Best skill ever. Blink sweet too.
Ultimates are in a category for themselves |
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| Erasme France. May 22 2012 20:20. Posts 4062 | Profile Blog # |
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| cptKewk Sweden. May 22 2012 21:10. Posts 78 | Profile # |
On May 22 2012 20:19 EmilA wrote:
Worst skills: Chilling Touch, Fiery soul and hmm, perhaps dobbelwalk...
How did you write those downside up p:s? 
Best skill for me is super subjective, Blink all the way. I would have it IRL if I could choose any!
Worst skill is hard. Quit dota1 before AA and haven't played him very much in dota2 so i'll have to trust y'all :D |
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| LikeAG6 Australia. May 22 2012 21:24. Posts 73 | Profile # |
I'd rate the best as Fiend's Grip.
Not sure about worst |
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| Nevuk United States. May 22 2012 21:33. Posts 4144 | Profile Blog # |
On May 22 2012 19:15 Space Invader wrote:enfeeble is a sickly good spell... it doesn't get used as much till lategame because nightmare and brain sap are too valuable, that's the only thing. how is midnight pulse underrated? it gets used all the time anyway i was talking more specifically about dota 2 skills with the current hero set, there are probably too many heroes in dota to think of the best/worst
Well, when people think of Enigma they think of his ultimate, stun, and eidolons, while midnight pulse + an ult are what let enigma flat out team wipe. From what I see of it in pro games it's underutilized outside of destroying trees as people react too rapidly to cast pulse + black hole without them running out.
A flat -100 damage is just a lazy spell. Boring, adds nothing to the table and scales horribly. |
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lagmaster  United States. May 22 2012 23:14. Posts 280 | Profile Blog # |
Bristleback's goo is pretty terrible. Especially since his casting animation is so bad.
Ravage, reverse polarity, primal roar, black hole, supernova and chronosphere are all amazing. I think ravage is the best simply because it requires the least amount of skill. Nevertheless these are all S class skills lod or not.
Not sure about the worst ultimate. I don't like wd's ult.
Best regular skill? Storm bolt, fissure or furion's tp |
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| Kznn Brazil. May 22 2012 23:32. Posts 5286 | Profile # |
shackle is the best non ult 0 doubts
as for ut, ravage :D |
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| Nub4ever Canada. May 22 2012 23:38. Posts 1630 | Profile Blog # |
On May 22 2012 17:57 Nevuk wrote:
The luck based skills are hard to predict. Rewind is either the best skill in the game or the worst depending on your luck.
Chilling touch isn't so much bad as that it's just completely outclassed by the other two early game and in the mid-early late game is going to lower dps rather than raise it. vs Omni I would totally take it though and in the late game the -15% as is probably going to be negligible compared to the however much damage and the fact that magic resistance has a hard limit for most heroes (besides PL + AM) while armor can get ridiculously high once people have reached 25 with AC + Shiva's everywhere.
Ravage is an amazing spell but it's not quite as good without kraken shell's synergy. Omni's guardian angel can be the best spell in the game, but these are all going to be situational and based upon team lineups (vs an all magic aoe lineup it doesn't do much).
Worst active spell : Enfeeble. In fact, almost all of Bane's abilities are pretty terrible besides brain sap.
Most underrated spell : midnight pulse
idk. I feel enfeeble is really quite great in laning. Get it at lvl 1, drop it on the enemy hero and they might as well not be in lane in terms of last hit presence.
If you want to say skills like rewind are amazing. Then you have things like maledict. Most potential damage in the game :3
I'm basing my opinions on skills not considering their CD's and mana costs etc.
In any case, all the skills in DotA are useable at some point. Chilling touch is, even though literally never used it's not TERRIBLE. But it's generally not taken over stats. TBH I feel the worst skill is actually Ice Path. Its a 1 second stun on lvl 1 increasing by .33 per level. It's only a 2 second stun on lvl 4. The only decent thing about the skill is it has great range. But otherwise its a stun with nice range but 0 damage and is extremely unreliable. Compare it to WR's shackle which is probably even more reliable so long as you're a decent enough player. They both do no damage but WR's stun is 3.75 seconds on 2 targets. Almost double the duration and probably stuns as many people as Jakiro's stun ever will.
But the other 3 skills I feel WR is stronger. Her nuke has much longer range and higher damage, jakiro's ulti I can barely count as a nuke and imo is a close second after Ice path for worst skill. His only really good skill I feel is liquid fire which makes pushing great.
Best skill... I'm going to have to agree with chronosphere. I perfect chrono is literally unbeatable. The potential to have a 5 second stun on the entire enemy team that also disables towers and reveals invis. AND if you do it right your team won't get stunned either. Kinda good. Almost impossible to use perfectly but probably the potentially strongest skill in the game. But if you want to go by pure damage, maledict wins :3
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 dragonborn May 22 2012 23:43. Posts 3757 | Profile # |
Rubick's spell steal is the best skill.
Lion's mana drain is the worst. |
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| Hassybaby United Kingdom. May 23 2012 00:06. Posts 8442 | Profile Blog # |
CM's ulti is the worst thing in the world
Best skill? Probably shackle or black hole for me |
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| Qbek Poland. May 23 2012 00:19. Posts 4258 | Profile # |
| I generally don't post in these threads but wow. Ice path worst skill? Hillarious shit xD |
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| craz3d Bulgaria. May 23 2012 00:20. Posts 689 | Profile # |
On May 22 2012 20:19 EmilA wrote:
Comeon, let's stick to Dota2 and let's not say "if X had Y skill it would be the best" :D
Worst skills: Chilling Touch, Fiery soul and hmm, perhaps dobbelwalk. Mana drain.
Best skills: Shackleshotx1000000000000000. Best skill ever. Blink sweet too.
Ultimates are in a category for themselves
Mana drain is a very convenient spell for taking away Linkens Sphere before everyone unleashes their shit on a LS holder.
Arrow and Sunstrike are awesome spells, there's nothing better than hitting someone who thinks they're safe.
Worst spell? I fucking hate rewind, nothing worse than Void rewinding your ulti as Lina and then proceeding to rape your face. |
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| EtherealBlade May 23 2012 00:36. Posts 362 | Profile # |
Uhm I thought rewind means Weaver's or Tinker's ult but I just checked it, you guys actually mean Void's backtrack which made it to HoN.
I wonder how Visage's ultimate holds up, last time I played those birds weren't the big deal they used to be.
Also one of my favourite new heroes in dota was the little murloc, his ultimate is:
Invisibility on cast, +30% movement speed and +3% HP regeneration when not visible
And when active he can attack while invis like a DT! This skill can be abused so much in pubs. |
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| DoNotDisturb Singapore. May 23 2012 00:49. Posts 5256 | Profile Blog # |
what's LoD?
On May 23 2012 00:36 Muki wrote:Uhm I thought rewind means Weaver's or Tinker's ult but I just checked it, you guys actually mean Void's backtrack which made it to HoN. I wonder how Visage's ultimate holds up, last time I played those birds weren't the big deal they used to be. Also one of my favourite new heroes in dota was the little murloc, his ultimate is:
Show nested quote +Invisibility on cast, +30% movement speed and +3% HP regeneration when not visible
And when active he can attack while invis like a DT! This skill can be abused so much in pubs.
old visage ult or new?
also, fuck yeah blink |
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| Xism Norway. May 23 2012 00:59. Posts 106 | Profile # |
I can't believe this thread has been going on for 3 pages and nobody said this:
Invoke |
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