| Tsubbi Germany. May 22 2012 16:41. Posts 5971 | Profile # |
| the terran looks pretty poor, the zerg is okay'ish, i wish we could fast forward a few months to see what the bw guys are capable of |
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| BLinD-RawR India. May 22 2012 16:41. Posts 24597 | Profile Blog # |
| double expanding 4th and 5th now for acacia. |
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| pdd Australia. May 22 2012 16:41. Posts 8242 | Profile Blog # |
| PianO looks really bad at SC2. Even if KT are technically using their SC2 bonjwas... |
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| Fragile51 Netherlands. May 22 2012 16:41. Posts 15570 | Profile # | |
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| las91 United States. May 22 2012 16:41. Posts 552 | Profile Blog # |
| This Zerg is so far ahead. It's like watching a GM player vs a low masters player. |
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 roymarthyup May 22 2012 16:41. Posts 1442 | Profile # |
On May 22 2012 16:37 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 16:36 roymarthyup wrote:
ummm i think your faulting lizzy too hard here
yes he did choose a horrible build but i bet bisu/stork using that horrible build and in situation would have still been in that horrible position given the two builds
lizzy chose to press his attack that pretty much had a 100% chance of failing due to the build order loss
if stork/bisu tries that they would fail just as hard you cannot break that bunker and tank
bisu/stork at that point could have pulled back and tried to power through the disadvantage through macro and skill, however the main problem was it was a pure build order loss and you can either press your attack that has a 100% chance to fail and hope your enemy makes a mistake, or pull back and you are at a 100% disadvantage macro wise and once again hope your vastly better than your enemy to win
not much lizzy could have done there given he decided to press on his failed attack and give it a chance
if flash does CC first and dies to 4pool and looks pathetic while it happens, its the same thing. BO losses exist
Stork will open 1 gate goon range rather than 10/15 so no your argument is invalid.
wrong. my argument is valid because i never said stork was allowed to use a different build. In my argument i said stork has to use the same build as lizzy, and i said IF stork was retarded enough to use lizzies horrible build, theres no way he could use "skill" to make the build work in that situation
if you put stork in that situation, with lizzies retarded build, and expect stork to break that bunker and tank, it wont happen
theres no way you can use skill to use that horrible build and end up breaking that bunker/tank. its impossible. lizzy just looked horrible because he thought he would give it a shot and hope maybe he might be able to make something happen even though the game was 100% lost at that point given his horrible build
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| MrCon France. May 22 2012 16:41. Posts 20342 | Profile # |
| These build are so naive. The terran playing pure bio, like in the early beta when people thought marauders were OP in every circumstance. But without tank he can do nothing. It's a little worrisome that they seems to have not watched any sc2 pro game tho. |
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| GreYMisT United States. May 22 2012 16:42. Posts 4667 | Profile Blog # |
| Drop for overlords but no overlord speed? |
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| Gosi Sweden. May 22 2012 16:42. Posts 3144 | Profile # |
On May 22 2012 16:40 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 16:39 Gosi wrote:
On May 22 2012 16:38 GTR wrote:
Why isn't this featured on Proleague days? Always up and running with good quality etc.
Think he is the guy who streams savior
Oh, I forgot about that policy. TT |
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| ZeromuS Canada. May 22 2012 16:42. Posts 8290 | Profile Blog # |
On May 22 2012 16:41 WhosTheSmuRf wrote:So we came to a point where roachling 3rd base also counters everything terran has? 
If there are any games to not make balance assumptions and conclusions from, it is right now, in Proleague. |
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| Koshi Belgium. May 22 2012 16:42. Posts 6751 | Profile Blog # |
| Damn cancel was close :/, was already facepalming. lol |
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| Fragile51 Netherlands. May 22 2012 16:42. Posts 15570 | Profile # |
On May 22 2012 16:41 dronefarm wrote:Do they get stream numbers from bgvrt's stream? A lot of people are watching the yt stream becuase they want to show big numbers for foreign viewers on the official stream.
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| Tsubbi Germany. May 22 2012 16:42. Posts 5971 | Profile # | |
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| ragnorr Denmark. May 22 2012 16:42. Posts 3929 | Profile # |
On May 22 2012 16:41 MrCon wrote:
These build are so naive. The terran playing pure bio, like in the early beta when people thought marauders were OP in every circumstance. But without tank he can do nothing. It's a little worrisome that they seems to have not watched any sc2 pro game tho.
At least the zergs looks to be following a okish build |
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| dronefarm United States. May 22 2012 16:43. Posts 260 | Profile Blog # |
| This zerg actually knows what he's doing. Pretty 1 sided game, I want to see his decision making under pressure. |
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| Fragile51 Netherlands. May 22 2012 16:43. Posts 15570 | Profile # |
| The famous bunker supply depot command centre walloff with a hole inside it big enough to fit 2 ultralisks side by side. |
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| forsooth United States. May 22 2012 16:43. Posts 2671 | Profile # |
On May 22 2012 16:41 WhosTheSmuRf wrote:So we came to a point where roachling 3rd base also counters everything terran has?
No, this Terran just isn't any good. |
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| BLinD-RawR India. May 22 2012 16:43. Posts 24597 | Profile Blog # | |
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| las91 United States. May 22 2012 16:44. Posts 552 | Profile Blog # |
| Oh man. Busted. Acacia is pretty good man. Also what's with every PL Zerg using infested terrans at any point in time? |
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| xxpack09 United States. May 22 2012 16:44. Posts 1795 | Profile Blog # |
On May 22 2012 16:40 Bebop07 wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 16:36 roymarthyup wrote:
ummm i think your faulting lizzy too hard here
yes he did choose a horrible build but i bet bisu/stork using that horrible build and in situation would have still been in that horrible position given the two builds
lizzy chose to press his attack that pretty much had a 100% chance of failing due to the build order loss
if stork/bisu tries that they would fail just as hard you cannot break that bunker and tank
bisu/stork at that point could have pulled back and tried to power through the disadvantage through macro and skill, however the main problem was it was a pure build order loss and you can either press your attack that has a 100% chance to fail and hope your enemy makes a mistake, or pull back and you are at a 100% disadvantage macro wise and once again hope your vastly better than your enemy to win
not much lizzy could have done there given he decided to press on his failed attack and give it a chance
if flash does CC first and dies to 4pool and looks pathetic while it happens, its the same thing. BO losses exist
This is true with the execution..but doing the build itself to begin with was terrible. He didn't even know when to build the gateways. That has to be the worst ever build done in pro bw since maybe 2001, maybe even before then.
Lizzy lost the game before he even attacked the bunker
Bisu and Stork would never have been in that position from a 10/15gate, because like everyone who has ever played protoss at or above the D level knows, you build the 2nd gate at 15 supply.
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