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 0neder United States. May 23 2012 23:39. Posts 3732 | Profile # |
On May 23 2012 20:50 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
It was a bad idea from the start.
You can't have the cake and eat it too.
I've never eaten cake I didn't have... |
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 white_horse May 23 2012 23:43. Posts 951 | Profile # |
| unionized player organization gogogo |
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| Monsen Germany. May 24 2012 00:02. Posts 1982 | Profile # |
The players have needed a "union" for ages- glad someone with as big an impact as Stork is speaking up on this.
The PP incident and Jaedongs FA come to mind... Don't know who can make this happen though. Kespa sure wont part with their power willingly. Maybe Blizzard, but I'm somewhat doubtful about their motivation to create another power in the business. |
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| OpticalShot Canada. May 24 2012 00:07. Posts 5929 | Profile Blog # |
| The irony is that I always thought KeSPA should stand for Korean eSports Players Association. I think their actual official title is Korea eSports Association. Blehhh |
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| Deleuze United Kingdom. May 24 2012 00:08. Posts 1238 | Profile Blog # |
| This is very good, I hope something comes through from this - god knows the pros need this at this time. |
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| FFW_Rude France. May 24 2012 00:23. Posts 643 | Profile Blog # |
I am really happy to see the BW pros taking on SC2 but Stork is more than right. I watch and follow Brood War since i don't even remember and i just feel that they are forced to play SC2 or die.
I don't want to see Brood War end... and surely not like that.
Stork is more than right (yeah i already said that).
Kespa needs to listen. |
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| TheGlassface United States. May 24 2012 00:28. Posts 612 | Profile # |
I was just thinking why I still log in.
Thank you for the translation.
Thanks Stork.
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| Fragile51 Netherlands. May 24 2012 00:37. Posts 15571 | Profile # |
| Woah, good on Stork to put his neck out like this. Frankly, i didn't even know that there wasn't a players organisation. I really hope they can arrange something, Kespa basically relies on the big players and the storylines or else they wouldn't exist. I think it's only fair that the players also have a say in how things are being done. |
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| surfinbird1 Germany. May 24 2012 00:40. Posts 999 | Profile # | |
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| itsdaniel Austria. May 24 2012 01:35. Posts 115 | Profile Blog # |
to be honest, this is the reason why I am such a stork fan for so many years - this guy is making a difference....
I will never stop supporting him and every single fan of him is a personal friend of mine!
the truth is speaking... |
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| SlowBullets United States. May 24 2012 01:38. Posts 695 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 01:35 itsdaniel wrote:
to be honest, this is the reason why I am such a stork fan for so many years - this guy is making a difference....
I will never stop supporting him and every single fan of him is a personal friend of mine!
the truth is speaking...
SBG!
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| amazingoopah United States. May 24 2012 01:47. Posts 1917 | Profile # |
Stork is bringing to light something very important for many players. A good number of the 'middling' bw players are looking at losing their solid revenue stream and having to retire as a result. The b teamers are already getting little to nothing so they have an incentive to prove themselves in SC2. The big names (flash, jaedong, bisu, a few others) will probably stick around so they can get a bit of that sweet foreigner prize money. A good bunch in the middle will be stuck between trying their hand at a new game all over again or retirement/doing their military commitment.
Stork is a true leader if he is trying to bring this issue to the forefront to help out his fellow progamers. I really hope they can do a korean players organization before getting really deep into sc2. |
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| Jealous United States. May 24 2012 01:56. Posts 2204 | Profile Blog # |
| Go Stork. Fuck this new PL season, really, as well as the SC2 transformation in general. Sorry. SC2 can have its leagues, let BW have its own or die out. That way people would have the choice of switching or not more directly. |
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| Jealous United States. May 24 2012 01:58. Posts 2204 | Profile Blog # |
On May 23 2012 22:29 DeluXe1337 wrote:
I do still feel that BW is a pretty good game. The balance is good and the metagame is pretty solid like going mech in a TvP. If only most of the foreigners like mself didnt care to much on the graphics and had the multitasking to use control groups of onl 8 then i think that BW would still be great. However, SC2 was marketted towards foreigners. Aslong as people like Stork stay on the BW pro scene it will still be a popular game (unless sc2 gets LAN)
Control groups are 12. Way to make it completely obvious that you don't know what you are talking about. If you don't even know the most basic facts, how can you form such a solid opinion? It's SC2 fans like this that post in BW threads that really get my blood boiling. "Don't have shit to say then don't say shit." - Pase Rock |
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| RvB Netherlands. May 24 2012 01:58. Posts 1082 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 00:02 Monsen wrote:
The players have needed a "union" for ages- glad someone with as big an impact as Stork is speaking up on this.
The PP incident and Jaedongs FA come to mind... Don't know who can make this happen though. Kespa sure wont part with their power willingly. Maybe Blizzard, but I'm somewhat doubtful about their motivation to create another power in the business.
The best way is to just have a meeting with all the teams on their own initiative and then choose players out of their own teams to represent them to Kespa. And then they can make some demands or go to extreme measures like a strike it's not like Kespa would hand this body any power willingly anyway.Last edit: 2012-05-24 01:59:06 |
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| kabar United States. May 24 2012 01:59. Posts 530 | Profile # |
| stork saying what i think a lot of progamers want to say. hero of the people. |
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| shaftofpleasure Korea (North). May 24 2012 02:01. Posts 1127 | Profile Blog # |
fuck sc2
fuck blizzard
fuck kespa ..
visiting just to check up on the scene and its a shit-hole like what i expected from sc2 coming into here.
A MOTHERFUCKING SHIT HOLE.
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| Hesmyrr Canada. May 24 2012 02:05. Posts 4179 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 01:58 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 22:29 DeluXe1337 wrote:
I do still feel that BW is a pretty good game. The balance is good and the metagame is pretty solid like going mech in a TvP. If only most of the foreigners like mself didnt care to much on the graphics and had the multitasking to use control groups of onl 8 then i think that BW would still be great. However, SC2 was marketted towards foreigners. Aslong as people like Stork stay on the BW pro scene it will still be a popular game (unless sc2 gets LAN)
Control groups are 12. Way to make it completely obvious that you don't know what you are talking about. If you don't even know the most basic facts, how can you form such a solid opinion? It's SC2 fans like this that post in BW threads that really get my blood boiling. "Don't have shit to say then don't say shit." - Pase Rock
The irony is that he seem to be arguing in side of BW, unless he is deliberately trying to provoke SC2 players into starting flame war.Last edit: 2012-05-24 02:05:59 |
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| SlowBullets United States. May 24 2012 02:07. Posts 695 | Profile # |
Yup, the general trend: too many SC2 players saying they "loved" Brood War yet lack the basic knowledge of how the game actually works. Then they say they played it when they were 10 (probably playing Bunker Wars and other UMS all day) without ever following the pro scene.
I'm sure they love the game all right.Last edit: 2012-05-24 02:07:50 |
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| randoomguy Sweden. May 24 2012 02:18. Posts 60 | Profile # |
i agree  even though i am a sc2 player these types of things are important |
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