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| justinpal United States. May 24 2012 05:35. Posts 3243 | Profile # |
| Again, don't know why anyone is invited. |
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| TheWarbler United States. May 24 2012 05:41. Posts 1241 | Profile Blog # |
On May 24 2012 05:35 justinpal wrote:
Again, don't know why anyone is invited.
What? |
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| Candadar May 24 2012 05:42. Posts 1791 | Profile Blog # |
On May 24 2012 05:35 justinpal wrote:
Again, don't know why anyone is invited.
...What do you mean? |
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| Aberu United States. May 24 2012 05:44. Posts 819 | Profile Blog # |
On May 24 2012 05:35 justinpal wrote:
Again, don't know why anyone is invited.
I don't understand, do you mean how are they picked to be invitees? If so, most likely an assessment of their achievements in both DotA and DotA 2 in recent tournaments. |
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| Momomelo Canada. May 24 2012 05:48. Posts 30 | Profile # |
| I really hope Mous gets invited! |
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| Maand May 24 2012 05:50. Posts 209 | Profile # |
6 invitees missing and there are a lot of good teams left in the open ;o. Here's hoping mouz or mTw will get in  . Probably we will see MithTrust/MUFC/Zenith next. After those few there's Infs, Quantic, VP, DTS, M5, Darer, Next.Kz and more hanging around!
Edit: Totally forgot EG, but seeing or rather not seeing them perform lately means that until they qualify they won't show up ;o.Last edit: 2012-05-24 05:56:34 |
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| Qbek Poland. May 24 2012 05:53. Posts 4282 | Profile # |
| I was really hoping they'd do it 24 teams, 16 leaves a lot of talent outside :C |
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| Dattish Sweden. May 24 2012 05:57. Posts 2768 | Profile # |
Returning players:
Natus Vincere: 4/5 of Na'Vi(ArtStyle being replaced by Ars-Art), 1/5 of M5(Ars-Art).
EHOME: 3/5 of EHOME(PLT, Dai and 357).
Invictus Gaming: 2/5 of iG(Zhou, 430), 1/5 of TyLoo(Faith).
Orange: 1/5 of MUFC(Ky' xY), however, in recent games Mushi has been subbing for him, so it's unclear if he'll attend.
Counter Logic Gaming: 2/5 of OK.Nv.Int(Pajkatt, Lacoste), 1/5 of GGnet(Miracle), 1/5 of MYM(Misery). |
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| 5-s United States. May 24 2012 05:57. Posts 880 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 05:44 Aberu wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 05:35 justinpal wrote:
Again, don't know why anyone is invited.
I don't understand, do you mean how are they picked to be invitees? If so, most likely an assessment of their achievements in both DotA and DotA 2 in recent tournaments.
Yea, all of these were expected, except maybe IG (some were hoping for LGD instead) Rest are no brainers for the most part. |
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| motbob United States. May 24 2012 06:09. Posts 11473 | Profile Blog # |
Let's play "Try to guess the rest of the invites."
Mouz
EG
Zenith
mTw
M5
Darer
My guess is already wrecked. Two slots for three teams.Last edit: 2012-05-26 02:32:09 |
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| Numy South Africa. May 24 2012 06:25. Posts 7419 | Profile Blog # |
| Good list but i think maybe only one of M5/Darer will make it. Don't know who will be other slot though, possibly MUFC or both Quantic/EG go in. Last edit: 2012-05-24 06:26:06 |
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| justinpal United States. May 24 2012 06:34. Posts 3243 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 05:44 Aberu wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 05:35 justinpal wrote:
Again, don't know why anyone is invited.
I don't understand, do you mean how are they picked to be invitees? If so, most likely an assessment of their achievements in both DotA and DotA 2 in recent tournaments.
Why don't they just invite the champion and runner up from the last tournament if anyone and have qualifiers? |
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| Azarkon United States. May 24 2012 06:38. Posts 8254 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 06:34 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 05:44 Aberu wrote:
On May 24 2012 05:35 justinpal wrote:
Again, don't know why anyone is invited.
I don't understand, do you mean how are they picked to be invitees? If so, most likely an assessment of their achievements in both DotA and DotA 2 in recent tournaments.
Why don't they just invite the champion and runner up from the last tournament if anyone and have qualifiers?
Because qualifiers are very hard to run in Dota 2. Scheduling 10 people for each match is a huge pain and because Asian teams have to get their visas 2-3 months in advance you have to run those qualifiers 4-5 months in advance. The infrastructure isn't there for running qualifiers in every region - for that you need organizers on every continent to collect the teams and their members, tons of language barriers, and replays which Valve did not put in until this year.
Qualifiers are an excellent idea in theory, but the Dota community does not have the infrastructure to run them in different continents. It's not SC 2, where scheduling players is a lot easier and the infrastructure exists for organizing qualifiers in different continents.Last edit: 2012-05-24 06:44:18 |
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| Rayeth United States. May 24 2012 06:53. Posts 537 | Profile Blog # |
On May 24 2012 06:09 motbob wrote:
Let's play "Try to guess the rest of the invites."
Mouz
Either Quantic or EG
Zenith
mTw
M5
Darer
This list is exactly what I would guess. I'll just go ahead and make the call for EG, though I don't really like their squad much I think their roster has been set longer than new-new Quantic's has? Which apparently makes a difference in these matters. |
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| Hassybaby United Kingdom. May 24 2012 06:55. Posts 8468 | Profile Blog # |
Mouz
mTw
Zenith
MUFC
Quantic
Darer
Would be my guess |
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| Numy South Africa. May 24 2012 07:05. Posts 7419 | Profile Blog # |
On May 24 2012 06:53 Rayeth wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 06:09 motbob wrote:
Let's play "Try to guess the rest of the invites."
Mouz
Either Quantic or EG
Zenith
mTw
M5
Darer
This list is exactly what I would guess. I'll just go ahead and make the call for EG, though I don't really like their squad much I think their roster has been set longer than new-new Quantic's has? Which apparently makes a difference in these matters.
It doesn't and it hasn't. I kind of hope MUFC get an invite. Orange them and Zenith look so strong. Last edit: 2012-05-24 07:15:02 |
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| justinpal United States. May 24 2012 07:18. Posts 3243 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 06:38 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 06:34 justinpal wrote:
On May 24 2012 05:44 Aberu wrote:
On May 24 2012 05:35 justinpal wrote:
Again, don't know why anyone is invited.
I don't understand, do you mean how are they picked to be invitees? If so, most likely an assessment of their achievements in both DotA and DotA 2 in recent tournaments.
Why don't they just invite the champion and runner up from the last tournament if anyone and have qualifiers?
Because qualifiers are very hard to run in Dota 2. Scheduling 10 people for each match is a huge pain and because Asian teams have to get their visas 2-3 months in advance you have to run those qualifiers 4-5 months in advance. The infrastructure isn't there for running qualifiers in every region - for that you need organizers on every continent to collect the teams and their members, tons of language barriers, and replays which Valve did not put in until this year. Qualifiers are an excellent idea in theory, but the Dota community does not have the infrastructure to run them in different continents. It's not SC 2, where scheduling players is a lot easier and the infrastructure exists for organizing qualifiers in different continents.
Hmm, okay. We will have to see how they run their two wild-cards then and maybe in the future it'll be less invites.
I just think that the DotA 2 pro-gamers, in general, would benefit a lot more from a series of tournaments with a large prize pool rather than one prize pool every year going to teams that Valve themselves selected. You can still keep the International as a large end season tournament. |
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| Hassybaby United Kingdom. May 24 2012 07:18. Posts 8468 | Profile Blog # |
Oh crap...forgot about Orange....
Take out Darer from my prediction :D |
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| Hassybaby United Kingdom. May 24 2012 07:20. Posts 8468 | Profile Blog # |
On May 24 2012 07:18 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 06:38 Azarkon wrote:
On May 24 2012 06:34 justinpal wrote:
On May 24 2012 05:44 Aberu wrote:
On May 24 2012 05:35 justinpal wrote:
Again, don't know why anyone is invited.
I don't understand, do you mean how are they picked to be invitees? If so, most likely an assessment of their achievements in both DotA and DotA 2 in recent tournaments.
Why don't they just invite the champion and runner up from the last tournament if anyone and have qualifiers?
Because qualifiers are very hard to run in Dota 2. Scheduling 10 people for each match is a huge pain and because Asian teams have to get their visas 2-3 months in advance you have to run those qualifiers 4-5 months in advance. The infrastructure isn't there for running qualifiers in every region - for that you need organizers on every continent to collect the teams and their members, tons of language barriers, and replays which Valve did not put in until this year. Qualifiers are an excellent idea in theory, but the Dota community does not have the infrastructure to run them in different continents. It's not SC 2, where scheduling players is a lot easier and the infrastructure exists for organizing qualifiers in different continents.
Hmm, okay. We will have to see how they run their two wild-cards then and maybe in the future it'll be less invites. I just think that the DotA 2 pro-gamers, in general, would benefit a lot more from a series of tournaments with a large prize pool rather than one prize pool every year going to teams that Valve themselves selected. You can still keep the International as a large end season tournament.
But that exists already. The Defense will be regular, as is the likes if IG Monthly Madness and ProDota |
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