| xwoGworwaTsx United States. May 24 2012 18:37. Posts 845 | Profile # |
From AFP:
http://www.afp.com/en/node/143855
Russia on Wednesday staged the first successful test-launch of a new intercontinental ballistic missile capable of breaching defence systems now being developed by NATO, a military spokesman said.
The announcement came less than a week after NATO formally activated the first stage of a missile defence shield whose deployment Russia has bitterly opposed out of fears that it may target its own vast nuclear arsenal.
"The dummy warhead reached its target area at the Kura test range on the Kamchatka Peninsula. The set goals of the launch were reached," Interfax quoted Russian Strategic Nuclear Forces spokesman Vadim Koval as saying.
A military source told the agency that the launch was only the second ever conducted on the missile.
The source said the first failed on September 27 when the missile suffered an undisclosed malfunction and crashed only 10 kilometres (six miles) from the launch site.
Various sources told the agency that the new missile was better equipped to penetrate the new US-backed missile defence system in Europe whose first stage NATO official activated at its Chicago summit next week.
The Russian missile "uses a new type of fuel that helps reduce the time required to operate the propellants in the active stage of the rocket's trajectory," one military source said.
Russian officials believe this makes the missile more difficult to detect and easier to manoeuvre.
Interfax said the weapon is also equipped with manoeuvrable individual warheads that can change course to avoid being shot down.
Analysis from BBC:
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Is there a war looming in the horizon? First North Korea. Now Russia. Even a Third World coutry like India is currently on missile test programs. What's up with the world? And what of NATO missile shield? Is there something bigger that the majority of the public don't know?
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| Jinsho United Kingdom. May 24 2012 18:40. Posts 3023 | Profile # |
OMG I just read a piece of news I don't understand, should I be scared???????????
^ this is literally you. Maybe you should go and find the information you need to understand the article, rather than copypaste it on some internet forums and ask a bunch of other people who don't understand anything some stupid questions. "Is there a war looming on the horizon?" Comparing Russia to North Korea? Jesus Christ. |
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| vOkk Belgium. May 24 2012 18:42. Posts 522 | Profile # |
| Because Iran and Russia has nuclear weapon mean a war is coming? They just build it to defend themselves versus the Empire. Israël, USA, etc. have nuclear weapon but for them it's okay? Come on |
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| gruff Sweden. May 24 2012 18:48. Posts 1966 | Profile # |
| This seems like a bait post... |
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| JeanLuc Canada. May 24 2012 18:51. Posts 321 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 18:42 vOkk wrote: Because Iran and Russia has nuclear weapon mean a war is coming? They just build it to defend themselves versus the Empire. Israël, USA, etc. have nuclear weapon but for them it's okay? Come on
I don't think this guy is criticizing Russian/Iran for building defences. He is just alarmed because supposedly we were supposed to be in the post Cold war era in the process of nuclear disarmament, about to break bread with each other and bury the hatchet for all time.
And if you recall your history, arms race can be a signal of war on the horizon.,. |
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| Omnipresent United States. May 24 2012 18:54. Posts 871 | Profile Blog # |
This sort of thing is just frustrating. The missile is a waste of money. The missile defense shield, which prompted this missile, is a waste of money.
I wish we could just get our policies out of the 1980s. The cold war is over. There's essentailly no chance of a war between any of the major nuclear powers - the US, China, Russia, and Europe. They're all completely economically interdependent. If you also factor in mutually assured destruction (which exists whether there's a missile shield or not), the prospect of war is absurd. |
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| Dr.Lettuce United Kingdom. May 24 2012 18:59. Posts 659 | Profile Blog # |
On May 24 2012 18:37 xwoGworwaTsx wrote:
Is there a war looming in the horizon? First North Korea. Now Russia. Even a Third World coutry like India is currently on missile test programs. What's up with the world? And what of NATO missile shield? Is there something bigger that the majority of the public don't know?
LOL. 
I agree with your following statement. 'What's up with the world?' |
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| Talin Montenegro. May 24 2012 19:05. Posts 8187 | Profile Blog # |
Did we scout Mutalisks?
Because if we didn't, this seems like a blatant waste of money. -_- |
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| Excludos Norway. May 24 2012 19:14. Posts 2189 | Profile Blog # |
"Is there a war looming in the horizon? First North Korea. Now Russia."
I love how you buncle those two countries togheter. One is dictatorship with allegedly nuclear weapons to be used against their neighbor "because he feels like it", the other is a normal country on par with usa that we're scared off because they live in the east side of the world and "omg cold war and stuff!".
I do agree its retarded that countries are gearing up towards a war instead of gearing down, but its not like USA is any different there either. |
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| Kabras Romania. May 24 2012 19:15. Posts 467 | Profile # |
| ROFL calling India a third world country. Comparing Russia to North Korea... :/. I remember another guy who not so long ago made a very similar uninformed post about one of the many NK missile threats. My question would be what's up with you people and war? Either your tv is a real piece of work or some of the audience is really retarded. |
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| Mobius_1 United Kingdom. May 24 2012 19:21. Posts 2719 | Profile Blog # |
So it's fine that NATO has plenty of missiles that can strike Moscow but not okay for Moscow to have missiles that can strike NATO? (That said Iran and NK are somewhat potentially unstable regimes, so I can understand worries about them)
Don't lost any sleep over this. This current generation of world leaders (mostly) aren't mad, and if they were death by nuclear holocaust is pretty quick anyway if you are lucky. |
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CruiseR Poland. May 24 2012 19:23. Posts 3921 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 19:14 Excludos wrote: "Is there a war looming in the horizon? First North Korea. Now Russia."
I love how you buncle those two countries togheter. One is dictatorship with allegedly nuclear weapons to be used against their neighbor "because he feels like it", the other is a normal country on par with usa that we're scared off because they live in the east side of the world and "omg cold war and stuff!".
I do agree its retarded that countries are gearing up towards a war instead of gearing down, but its not like USA is any different there either.
Yes, Russia can't be placed in same bag as North Korea, but i wouldn't call it a "normal country" like you did. Remember last president elections? It was rigged, wasn't it?Last edit: 2012-05-24 19:23:49 |
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| Excludos Norway. May 24 2012 19:23. Posts 2189 | Profile Blog # |
On May 24 2012 19:23 CruiseR wrote: Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:14 Excludos wrote: "Is there a war looming in the horizon? First North Korea. Now Russia."
I love how you buncle those two countries togheter. One is dictatorship with allegedly nuclear weapons to be used against their neighbor "because he feels like it", the other is a normal country on par with usa that we're scared off because they live in the east side of the world and "omg cold war and stuff!".
I do agree its retarded that countries are gearing up towards a war instead of gearing down, but its not like USA is any different there either.
Yes, Russia can't be placed in same bag as North Korea, but i wouldn't call it a "normal country" as you did. Remember last president elections? It was rigged, wasn't it?
Well ok, you got me there. 140% xD
edit: Also, if you look closely, one of the installations is stationed in Poland. The invasion has already begun!  Last edit: 2012-05-24 19:24:37 |
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| Orcasgt24 Canada. May 24 2012 19:25. Posts 1268 | Profile # |
If Russia wanted to nuke you they'd just fire more missles then you could shoot down. So only 200 nukes will land in your country instead of 500. I think 200 nukes is enough to kill everyone inside it. Missle defence system = pointless. Same goes with the USA, they could just fire off 500 or more nukes if they wanted.
But noones gonna nuke anyone anyways. To do so is to choose an global apocolypse. A major war between US/China/Russia is never gonna happen. Mutually assured destruction if it does.
Imagine if all the money the world spent on stupid never to be used bullshit like this was used to fund medical research, education, sustainable energy, space exploration or technologies to improve life on earth.
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CruiseR Poland. May 24 2012 19:26. Posts 3921 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 19:23 Excludos wrote: Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:23 CruiseR wrote: On May 24 2012 19:14 Excludos wrote: "Is there a war looming in the horizon? First North Korea. Now Russia."
I love how you buncle those two countries togheter. One is dictatorship with allegedly nuclear weapons to be used against their neighbor "because he feels like it", the other is a normal country on par with usa that we're scared off because they live in the east side of the world and "omg cold war and stuff!".
I do agree its retarded that countries are gearing up towards a war instead of gearing down, but its not like USA is any different there either.
Yes, Russia can't be placed in same bag as North Korea, but i wouldn't call it a "normal country" as you did. Remember last president elections? It was rigged, wasn't it?
Well ok, you got me there. 140% xD edit: Also, if you look closely, one of the installations is stationed in Poland. The invasion has already begun! 
NATO's installation is in Redzikowo, Poland. Russia's Iskanders are stationed in Kaliningrad, which is Russian territory that borders with Poland. |
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CruiseR Poland. May 24 2012 19:28. Posts 3921 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 19:25 Orcasgt24 wrote: If Russia wanted to nuke you they'd just fire more missles then you could shoot down. So only 200 nukes will land in your country instead of 500. I think 200 nukes is enough to kill everyone inside it. Missle defence system = pointless. Same goes with the USA, they could just fire off 500 or more nukes if they wanted.
But noones gonna nuke anyone anyways. To do so is to choose an global apocolypse. A major war between US/China/Russia is never gonna happen. Mutually assured destruction if it does.
Imagine if all the money the world spent on stupid never to be used bullshit like this was used to fund medical research, education, sustainable energy, space exploration or technologies to improve life on earth.
yes, but the defense system makes sense if the Iran wanted to launch a nuke strike. Iran won't be able to make that number of nukes, so the Aegis shield is perfectly reasonable.Last edit: 2012-05-24 19:29:21 |
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| bonse May 24 2012 19:32. Posts 118 | Profile # |
| NATO is building a defense shield against missiles. Russia is bragging that they built a missile that can penetrate the shield. How come people understand from this that Russia and Iran are just building defenses against the aggressive "Empire" and how come Israel haters manage to drag Israel in this story so they can show their hate at her? Last edit: 2012-05-24 19:33:49 |
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| fusefuse Estonia. May 24 2012 19:32. Posts 1345 | Profile Blog # |
but guys the cold war never really ended it was just subdued for those 10 years after the Soviet Union collapsed and Russia was busy reinstating and rebuilding its, now smaller, empire D: |
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| Orcasgt24 Canada. May 24 2012 19:38. Posts 1268 | Profile # |
On May 24 2012 19:28 CruiseR wrote: Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 19:25 Orcasgt24 wrote: If Russia wanted to nuke you they'd just fire more missles then you could shoot down. So only 200 nukes will land in your country instead of 500. I think 200 nukes is enough to kill everyone inside it. Missle defence system = pointless. Same goes with the USA, they could just fire off 500 or more nukes if they wanted.
But noones gonna nuke anyone anyways. To do so is to choose an global apocolypse. A major war between US/China/Russia is never gonna happen. Mutually assured destruction if it does.
Imagine if all the money the world spent on stupid never to be used bullshit like this was used to fund medical research, education, sustainable energy, space exploration or technologies to improve life on earth.
yes, but the defense system makes sense if the Iran wanted to launch a nuke strike. Iran won't be able to make that number of nukes, so the Aegis shield is perfectly reasonable.
Iran is not making nukes to kill Europeans or Americans. They are making them to kill Isrealis. A defence shield that covers Europe will not help vs an Iranian nuke.
And Iran is pursing nuclear weapons because Isreal has nukes. Letting Isreal have nuclear weapons was the single dumbest thing the UN has ever allowed. Enemies of the Jewish have traditionally been enemies of the west(I don't know why either). It doesn't take a political science professor to know that when one side hates another side they will try and maintain equal or better weapons then the other. |
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| Newbistic China. May 24 2012 19:43. Posts 2911 | Profile Blog # |
| Just what we need in the world, more nukes. I wish they (US or Russia) would just save all the time and resources and just make one doomsday device that would destroy everything. Problem solved, you can sit around with a minimum military and zero nukes. Concentrate all resources on more constructive shit. |
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