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| Yttrasil Sweden. May 25 2012 09:05. Posts 491 | Profile # |
Hey, as people have requested we need an item valuation thread where we can ask others what we think items might be worth on the AH (might be even better to post a price that we know the items will be sold for). I think we should have some guidelines as well to not make it a spamplace, and I'll suggest a few myself and would like some input on how to make it efficient. Sure, you can always check other similar items, but some items are very difficult to list a price for either way, for example I have no idea what are good stats for a DH and cannot value such items in any way as I don't know what is relevant except for dexterity.
1: Tell your region, might be relevant for prices, if not we'll find out with time. 2: List the relevant stats on the item and don't forget level requirement. 3: DON'T post more than 3 items at one time, and when you list TRY to estimate some other prices in areas which you know.
Pricing strategies, courtsey of Firebolt145: + Show Spoiler +So you just looted a piece of gear and you're not sure how much its worth or if you should even bother to put it up on the AH. You could completely guess its worth but then you either risk losing a lot of potential gold, or you risk overpricing it and wasting one of your valuable 10 auction slots for 2 days. Neither option is good, so how do you assign your item a value?
Diablo 3 is still very new. Newer and better items appear on the AH daily and the market is fluctuating a lot. Different regions also have different fluctuations and just because something is worth X gold in the US doesn't mean it's worth as much on the EU servers. As such there are no rules as to how items should be priced. It completely depends on whatever supply/demand is going on in your server at the moment you want to sell your item.
When you get a new piece of gear, you first need to figure out what its purpose is and if it is worth selling. A lot of items have 'wasted' stats (eg. intelligence on a ring that otherwise has tanking stats) which do not contribute to the value of the item. Look for what stats it has the highest of and what classes would make use of them. Wizards and witch doctors can use gear that have both intelligence and crit % on them, but no classes would look for gear with lots of both dexterity and intelligence on it. A lot of gear (including rares!) have so many wasted stats that they should simply be sold to a vendor.
So if you really think your item is worth selling, how do you check its worth?
Start by writing down the item's stats down in notepad or something similar so you can remind yourself what they are. Go to the auction house and make sure the 'search equipment for' is set to a class that can equip the item you are trying to sell. Change the item type to whatever it is you are trying to sell. If it is a low level requirement item you may want to change the level range. If your item is a rare with more than 2 VALUABLE stats, you may want to change the 'rarity' to rare as well.
Now you want to play with the 'preferred stats' option. Look at your item's stats and decide what are the most important stats on it. Usually this will be a combination of its 'premier' stat (str, dex or int) and a secondary stat, such as resistance, crit damage/chance, or attack speed. Inserting vitality is an option as well if your item has vit on it. Set the minimum value of each stat to a number just below what your item has, eg if your item has 71 intel, set the minimum value to 65 intel. This will allow you to get an idea of how items that are slightly worse than yours are priced.
Now play with the 'max buyout' value. You want to start low and increase the number until you start seeing items for sale at whatever price you've set as the maximum buyout. Start mousing over the items and checking their stats - are they better or worse than your item? If you only see one item at this price, perhaps it is an outlier and someone has underpriced it; increase your max buyout and if you suddenly find several more items with similar stats you will know that this was the case.
Once you have discovered what items similar to yours are selling for, you have to decide how to price it. If you feel your item is worth a lot and want to make every penny out of it, feel free to price it equal to what others are pricing it at. I find that the (stupid) 10 item limit is incredibly restricting and thus I underprice all my items by a little to try and free up item slots, but that's personal preference.
I should add that weapons are slightly different from most other pieces of gear. The only important stat that a weapon has is the big DPS number at the top of its description, which already take into account any +attack speed or +% damage mods it has (though I hear it doesn't take into account %crit). Any other stats like extra strength, vitality, etc etc are all secondary in importance to that big DPS number. As such, when you price weapons, you should not add any 'preferred stats' and simply price it based on its DPS value.
Lastly this guide is mainly for blue/rare items and not any green set pieces or (good) legendaries. Those should be approached slightly differently.
I am writing this guide at 1am and am a little groggy so if anyone has any other suggestions or corrections, please feel free to post them. If everyone is happy perhaps this should make its way to the OP as well.
Hope we have alot of input and responses, I sit on auction bay alot more than playing the game tbh. =)
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| Azuzu United States. May 25 2012 09:13. Posts 219 | Profile # |
I'm not on EU but:
1. should be a fairly straight forward valuation. The main attribute is the mf so looking at other 25% mf gear gear should get you close, add in a small premium for the other stats. |
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| Charger United States. May 25 2012 09:16. Posts 2347 | Profile Blog # |
| Cool, I will be checking out this thread regularly. I think pictures would add to the thread (in spoilers to keep the flow of the thread in tact) but it would also be more effort. |
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| Wonders Australia. May 25 2012 10:03. Posts 730 | Profile Blog # |
+ Show Spoiler + NA
Significantly higher DPS than any level 51 item I see on auction house, and has stats too, so I have nothing to compare to.
Edit: forget it, it was 2 handed
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| Talho Belgium. May 25 2012 10:38. Posts 591 | Profile # |
![[image loading]](http://users.telenet.be/K.leemans/d3/item.jpg) Hard to compare on EU AH =/ there's no such closely rolled max allr, physr. Best I could find was 4m, but it was kinda worse
so I'm thinking 5m-10m, but no1 is gonna pay that now ? So It might be just better to wait another week ? might be even worth 20m then no =/ ?Last edit: 2012-05-25 10:39:10 |
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| Azuzu United States. May 25 2012 10:53. Posts 219 | Profile # |
On May 25 2012 10:38 Talho wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hard to compare on EU AH =/ there's no such closely rolled max allr, physr. Best I could find was 4m, but it was kinda worse so I'm thinking 5m-10m, but no1 is gonna pay that now ? So It might be just better to wait another week ? might be even worth 20m then no =/ ?
I think waiting would be a mistake. People might have more money but there will be more items better than this. My guess is that it would lower in value.
I think a better comparison would be found if you just look at the dex, vit, and all res and add premium for other stats. IMO 5M is wishful thinking. |
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| Coolness53 United States. May 25 2012 10:59. Posts 654 | Profile # |
On May 25 2012 10:38 Talho wrote:![[image loading]](http://users.telenet.be/K.leemans/d3/item.jpg) Hard to compare on EU AH =/ there's no such closely rolled max allr, physr. Best I could find was 4m, but it was kinda worse so I'm thinking 5m-10m, but no1 is gonna pay that now ? So It might be just better to wait another week ? might be even worth 20m then no =/ ?
Speaking from a Barb perspective. String of Ears is best in slot due to the 20% melee damage reduction. I would sell it quick for 4-5 million. |
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| xZiGGY United Kingdom. May 25 2012 11:16. Posts 780 | Profile # |
I got this on the ah for 9k today
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GBYmi.jpg) I'm pretty happy about it.  |
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| Talho Belgium. May 25 2012 11:18. Posts 591 | Profile # |
On May 25 2012 10:59 Coolness53 wrote: Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 10:38 Talho wrote:![[image loading]](http://users.telenet.be/K.leemans/d3/item.jpg) Hard to compare on EU AH =/ there's no such closely rolled max allr, physr. Best I could find was 4m, but it was kinda worse so I'm thinking 5m-10m, but no1 is gonna pay that now ? So It might be just better to wait another week ? might be even worth 20m then no =/ ?
Speaking from a Barb perspective. String of Ears is best in slot due to the 20% melee damage reduction. I would sell it quick for 4-5 million.
oh okay, that indeed reduces it, I thought this would have been best in slot, was looking for other stuff but didnt find that |
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| TheRealDudeMan United States. May 25 2012 11:32. Posts 213 | Profile # |
You shouldn't be comparing your items to what other people sell for because I have seen items go for way more then they should.
The best way for me to price out my stuff is to look at it. Ignore the armor rating, see if any base stats are above 100. If not, 5-15k. Stats above 100, continue, what class would be able to use this inferno? If none, 16-100k, your choice depending on stats.
Basically though, just think of what you would be pay for it. I do hell runs through an entire act with mf gear. I get on the AH and sell all my stuff for between 5-15k. Sometimes higher but rare. I'm making bank and my stuff is selling within 4-6 hours, if not quicker.
Maybe it is just me but I look at the 1million+ items and I do not see them being that much better. Sure there are a few that would increase my damage by like 25% but am I really willing to spend all my gold just to get like 6k more dps? No i would not. It is more efficient to squeeze that out over a couple of days. |
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| Holytornados United States. May 25 2012 12:46. Posts 623 | Profile # |
On May 25 2012 10:59 Coolness53 wrote: Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 10:38 Talho wrote:![[image loading]](http://users.telenet.be/K.leemans/d3/item.jpg) Hard to compare on EU AH =/ there's no such closely rolled max allr, physr. Best I could find was 4m, but it was kinda worse so I'm thinking 5m-10m, but no1 is gonna pay that now ? So It might be just better to wait another week ? might be even worth 20m then no =/ ?
Speaking from a Barb perspective. String of Ears is best in slot due to the 20% melee damage reduction. I would sell it quick for 4-5 million.
I wouldn't value that at higher than 5mil. Mostly because of the aforementioned String of Ears. |
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| xrayEU Sweden. May 25 2012 15:15. Posts 371 | Profile # |
I picked up Natalya´s Gaze yesterday and i beleive that the stats aren't that bad so i think i could get a good amount for it. What's your thoughts on this item? On EU btw...
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QllvJ.jpg)
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| Dfgj Singapore. May 25 2012 15:22. Posts 5560 | Profile # |
So, I found some pants (NA Server)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kEhge.png)
Vit, resist, and sockets for your choice of attribute, should be useful to someone? |
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| superbabosheki United States. May 25 2012 17:12. Posts 1466 | Profile Blog # |
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/UzWur.png) I'm really interested in how much my ring is worth! I'm guessing my ammy is somewhere between 1-2mil. |
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| rezoacken Canada. May 25 2012 17:36. Posts 1444 | Profile # |
Dropped a rare mace (US sever) 1Hand 888.8dps (funny) 143 Dexterity 2% chance to blind
I'm pretty sure this must be excellent for a monk How much do you think I should put it ?
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| Talho Belgium. May 25 2012 17:45. Posts 591 | Profile # |
On May 25 2012 11:32 TheRealDudeMan wrote: You shouldn't be comparing your items to what other people sell for because I have seen items go for way more then they should.
The best way for me to price out my stuff is to look at it. Ignore the armor rating, see if any base stats are above 100. If not, 5-15k. Stats above 100, continue, what class would be able to use this inferno? If none, 16-100k, your choice depending on stats.
Basically though, just think of what you would be pay for it. I do hell runs through an entire act with mf gear. I get on the AH and sell all my stuff for between 5-15k. Sometimes higher but rare. I'm making bank and my stuff is selling within 4-6 hours, if not quicker.
Maybe it is just me but I look at the 1million+ items and I do not see them being that much better. Sure there are a few that would increase my damage by like 25% but am I really willing to spend all my gold just to get like 6k more dps? No i would not. It is more efficient to squeeze that out over a couple of days.
obviously you should compare, I'm around 12mill btw.
and that's just you, the difference in price between an almost perfect item and slightly lower can be a lot. Was the same in d2. Although d2 it was slighty easier to roll perfect items, but if you have an item that could be 30 to 50 strength => 49 wasn't worth that much and 50str was worth 5x-10x more
Actually I can even give an example in d3, go look up the difference in price between highest mf on an item and one 1 or 2% lower. Closely rolled maxed items just go up exponentially in price
edit : changed the example, because 15% ias rings seem to have dropped a lot, just checked AH
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| xZiGGY United Kingdom. May 25 2012 18:07. Posts 780 | Profile # |
| the difference between 13 ias and 15 ias in raw dps is a lot more significant than 1 str was in d2 though ;/ |
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| xZiGGY United Kingdom. May 25 2012 18:08. Posts 780 | Profile # |
On May 25 2012 17:12 superbabosheki wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I'm really interested in how much my ring is worth! I'm guessing my ammy is somewhere between 1-2mil.
amulet is meh, ring is omnomnomonomnomLast edit: 2012-05-25 18:08:54 |
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| whoso Germany. May 25 2012 19:42. Posts 358 | Profile # |
On May 25 2012 11:32 TheRealDudeMan wrote: Ignore the armor rating, see if any base stats are above 100.
i thought unlike in d2 armor is not a useless stat anymore for most classes. am i misinformed? i wouldnt know since im playing dh and dont care about defense anyway.
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| Tobberoth Sweden. May 25 2012 19:44. Posts 4511 | Profile # |
On May 25 2012 19:42 whoso wrote: Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 11:32 TheRealDudeMan wrote: Ignore the armor rating, see if any base stats are above 100.
i thought unlike in d2 armor is not a useless stat anymore for most classes. am i misinformed? i wouldnt know since im playing dh and dont care about defense anyway.
Armor is great, but +armor bonuses are generally very insignificant compared to the armor you naturally get from using items of high ilvl. |
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