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 LastDance   New Zealand. May 27 2012 14:29. Posts 429
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what's happening?
 
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  MaNaVoId   May 27 2012 14:29. Posts 490Profile # 
Why would MC throw away that game to Bomber since he and huk are also good friends
 
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 Bashion   Cook Islands. May 27 2012 14:31. Posts 2495
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Can anyone PM me the winner between huk and bomber plz?
I've got moves like Jagger
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  iMYoonA   Australia. May 27 2012 14:31. Posts 462Profile # 
my bad, my mistake
Last edit: 2012-05-27 14:38:33
*yoona | taeyeon | jiyeon | na eun | cho rong | IU | nana | suzy | yejin*
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 AzureD   United States. May 27 2012 14:31. Posts 284
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On May 27 2012 14:15 ritzia1 wrote:

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Not to mention Banelings trade so poorly against Archons.


But Banelings actually trade extremely well with Archons in a toilet. Costs way less gas to kill Archons with Banes than it costs to make Archons. It also costs way less supply to counter the same supply of Archons.

I actually worked the math out and tested it. Only problem is if any of your other ground units get trapped in with the toilet. Then it gets unreliable.
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 MrCash   United States. May 27 2012 14:32. Posts 1498
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6 of 8 advancing are Korean.
Pretty standard I suppose.
Sase and Stephano are pretty good foreigner reps though, hoping they have a good showing tomorrow.
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 grapedog   United States. May 27 2012 14:32. Posts 119
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On May 27 2012 14:23 Gojira621 wrote:

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watch Up and Down for Code S and you'll see.

(SPOILER FOR ONE MATCH IN UP AND DOWN)

Ace was playing boongboong and basically would attack with his deathball whereever the zerg army was not, including using multiple warp prisms to 2 or even 3 places at once, while his army was attacking other places or defending. When BoongBoong would use his main BL/Infestor/Corruptor army to go kill off the armies attacking his base, Ace would recall to where the mothership was, while continuing the annoying warp prism drops. He did this like 3 times and later ended up winning even though BoongBoong was able to make it extremely close. Since Nexus will have recall in HotS we can arguably say that is the future of dealing with BL/Infestor/Corruptor: attacking wherever that army clump is NOT located, then recalling when his army closes in. I got frustrated just watching BoongBoong try to deal with it. KiwiKaki used to do something like this too I think



So, the way to beat the zerg late game army is not to fight it? Is this Wargames all over again... the only way to win is not to play?

What happens when the zerg army you are trying to avoid just goes into your main and wrecks it... you're still supposed to recall your losing army right into the teeth of the winning zerg army?

I'm not sure how any of the HOTS changes are going to resolve the zerg late game deathball army issues that protoss have with zerg.
At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go in the same box.
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  brokenLoL   United Kingdom. May 27 2012 14:33. Posts 418Profile # 
Yeee someone PM me dat bomber vs HuK/Ostojiy results.
Save me from myself
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 Coffin   Germany. May 27 2012 14:34. Posts 226
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I would be happy about a PM about that as well.
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 ROOTT1   Canada. May 27 2012 14:34. Posts 5630
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On May 27 2012 14:04 aznball123 wrote:

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Tbh, anyone who talks shit and bms the shit out of everyone doesn't deserve respect from the community. If he wants to be accepted and supported, he can always drop the bullshit especially if he can't even back it up.


I feel the same way but i would be willing to forgo all that bs if its to help someone out, the shit were flaming him about is so retardedly insignificant if u look at it from a larger scope. Its important to us because we feel like our community and everything in it is the center of the universe but its actually quite meaningless and insignificant. If someones willing to sacrifice his life to become good at this game that pretty much means it obviously holds alot of value to him and not gaining the communitys approval might be something that weights heavily on him, you cant control how someone thinks/feels and they might end up doing something stupid to themselves.. obviously im overdramatizing this whole situation but who fucking knows man

i heard that hes been pretty depressed in the past, it even went as far as someone telling me he tried to do something stupid to himself, im not sure if what he told me was actually true but its enought to have me side with him from now on, if someone ever does something stupid to himself over such meaningless things.. man i dunno wat i would do
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ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate - Remember KT.Violet 23/08/12 - ROOTMajor: "U put the tone and i add the symphony."
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 ROOTT1   Canada. May 27 2012 14:38. Posts 5630
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On May 27 2012 14:16 whiterabbit wrote:

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When you are person shady as LS talking shit as much as he does you don't suicide because of few people hating on you at TLnet forums.


thats what one would think but who the fuck knows how the human mind works
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate - Remember KT.Violet 23/08/12 - ROOTMajor: "U put the tone and i add the symphony."
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 Gojira621   United States. May 27 2012 14:39. Posts 274
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On May 27 2012 14:32 grapedog wrote:

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So, the way to beat the zerg late game army is not to fight it? Is this Wargames all over again... the only way to win is not to play?

What happens when the zerg army you are trying to avoid just goes into your main and wrecks it... you're still supposed to recall your losing army right into the teeth of the winning zerg army?

I'm not sure how any of the HOTS changes are going to resolve the zerg late game deathball army issues that protoss have with zerg.


late game zerg armies in ZvP are very slow. He can't just show up in your main and wreck it without you having a good idea of what is going on, in which case you pull your army back and go for the vortex toilet win if you can. Meanwhile you have zealots wrecking his other bases and/or main, and possibly even storm drops going on as well. It does force the zerg into an immediate attack if his slow ass late game army is far away from his main/main structures, but if you hold it, the protoss SHOULD win because of all the damage that the warp prisms were doing
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 ROOTT1   Canada. May 27 2012 14:40. Posts 5630
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who advanced from group c?
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate - Remember KT.Violet 23/08/12 - ROOTMajor: "U put the tone and i add the symphony."
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  ZeroSC2   Korea (South). May 27 2012 14:40. Posts 668Profile # 
Squirtle gonna so roll over them tomorrow. About time he wins his first tournament.
Flash
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 MrCash   United States. May 27 2012 14:40. Posts 1498
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Bomber macro is pretty much the definition of "Miraculous level macro".
40 supply up on zerg at 13 minutes without any fights.
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 Lukeeze[zR]   Switzerland. May 27 2012 14:40. Posts 5843
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ravens gaining shape in TvZ
Terran & Potato Salad.
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  brokenLoL   United Kingdom. May 27 2012 14:41. Posts 418Profile # 
It's stupid how people do unorthodox strats and bm's against Ostojiy.
Save me from myself
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  babylon   May 27 2012 14:41. Posts 6231Profile Blog # 

On May 27 2012 14:40 MrCash wrote:
Bomber macro is pretty much the definition of "Miraculous level macro".
40 supply up on zerg at 13 minutes without any fights.

I just wish he wouldn't wtf his units into oblivion sometimes.
[insert StarTale icon here]
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 Oboeman   Canada. May 27 2012 14:42. Posts 3414
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On May 27 2012 14:32 grapedog wrote:

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So, the way to beat the zerg late game army is not to fight it? Is this Wargames all over again... the only way to win is not to play?

What happens when the zerg army you are trying to avoid just goes into your main and wrecks it... you're still supposed to recall your losing army right into the teeth of the winning zerg army?

I'm not sure how any of the HOTS changes are going to resolve the zerg late game deathball army issues that protoss have with zerg.


How do you play bio against mech?
How do you play zerg against mech?
How do you play muta in zvz?
How do you play early-midgame zvp?

Not by putting your army in a ball and attacking his ball, that's for sure.
Pop quiz, which is faster, broodlord or mothership?
 
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 kastoob   Australia. May 27 2012 14:44. Posts 144
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OSTOJIY working bomber.
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.
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