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| corumjhaelen France. May 28 2012 21:56. Posts 4783 | Profile Blog # |
On May 28 2012 21:51 538 wrote:
That's so silly, why is the stream password protected in the first place?
bgvrt told me on stream chat it was at the organizer's request.
If you're organizing an event, people don't care when are the games actually played if they cant watch it live. As such, that "May 28th / 14:00 CET" is an utterly useless piece of information for an ordinary viewer. What the OP should contain as a date is the time of the actually available stream, with or without casting.
This is a very basic accessibility problem, and you're shooting yourself in the foot with it. Please treat the fans nicer, you're supposed to be doing this for them.
I think it's just a problem of being too nice and transparent. |
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| [sc1f]eonzerg Spain. May 28 2012 22:00. Posts 1491 | Profile Blog # |
| WOW WHATS A SHIT. games live now. and the cast the weekend. u killing us -__- |
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| Skeggaba Korea (South). May 28 2012 22:03. Posts 1509 | Profile Blog # |
| OMG i wanna seee, cant wait a whole week for results TT |
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| BookTwo May 28 2012 22:04. Posts 1953 | Profile Blog # |
Yeah, next time organisers shouldn't tell us anything.
Then we can complain about not being informed. |
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 Sayle United Kingdom. May 28 2012 22:16. Posts 2709 | Profile # |
On May 28 2012 21:51 538 wrote:
bgvrt told me on stream chat it was at the organizer's request.
Interesting. Were they worried about stream cheating or something? I didn't even know you could make a twitch stream password protected O_o |
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| Potling Norway. May 28 2012 22:28. Posts 228 | Profile # |
| Will the replays be posted today? |
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| GeLaar May 28 2012 23:24. Posts 1963 | Profile # |
I agree with 538. The organisers screwed this one up.
I was as pumped about this as everyone else. But you don't go advertising something as happening at 14:00 CET, then kick people off the stream and tell them to wait for a week. You should either advertise the time when it's broadcast, or let people watch it live. I could've kept my mouth shut about the score, and would've tried to watch the English cast as well, but that will be at a horrible time for me, whereas this would have been convenient (I'm near the KST zone). |
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| quirinus Croatia. May 28 2012 23:34. Posts 1714 | Profile Blog # |
| I think the organizers said they didn't want to cast the games during the weekdays... |
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| Ryo May 28 2012 23:45. Posts 8408 | Profile Blog # |
| Hmm... just a communication problem. Next time just pls make the OP clearer by saying that the games will not be streamed live. The way the OP is set up (eg. "Date/Time : May 28th / 14:00 CET"), it makes it seem as though there might be a live, non-casted stream. Thanks |
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| Hyeon Korea (South). May 28 2012 23:54. Posts 366 | Profile Blog # |
On May 28 2012 21:51 538 wrote:
That's so silly, why is the stream password protected in the first place?
bgvrt told me on stream chat it was at the organizer's request.
If you're organizing an event, people don't care when are the games actually played if they cant watch it live. As such, that "May 28th / 14:00 CET" is an utterly useless piece of information for an ordinary viewer. What the OP should contain as a date is the time of the actually available stream, with or without casting.
This is a very basic accessibility problem, and you're shooting yourself in the foot with it. Please treat the fans nicer, you're supposed to be doing this for them.
My request? What? Really?
I never asked bgvrt / pusan to put password on stream. I even don't know who bgvrt, just saw him restreams some afreeca channels. Also, i was watching Pusan's stream and observing. But there was no password, then how could i watch it? Because i'm korean? Don't get me wrong.
Also, reason why i asked Hacklebeast and EleGant to do this on Weekends is because of Defi. Defi's on holiday now, don't want to do that without him(it's defi who sponsored). I already annouced on OP that it will be casted later today...
Seriously, if you are a friend of bgvrt tell him to say truth, not trying to make dramas.
I'll ask Sayle to do this or when he replies or Hacklebeast/EleGant when they answer.Last edit: 2012-05-28 23:55:49 |
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| Hyeon Korea (South). May 28 2012 23:55. Posts 366 | Profile Blog # |
On May 28 2012 23:45 Ryo wrote:
Hmm... just a communication problem. Next time just pls make the OP clearer by saying that the games will not be streamed live. The way the OP is set up (eg. "Date/Time : May 28th / 14:00 CET"), it makes it seem as though there might be a live, non-casted stream. Thanks
Casting date : To be determined; later that day, most likely.
Okay, my bad that i didn't put "NOT LIVE" |
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| Hyeon Korea (South). May 28 2012 23:56. Posts 366 | Profile Blog # |
On May 28 2012 22:28 Potling wrote:
Will the replays be posted today?
Will be released after casting.. |
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 Pholon Netherlands. May 29 2012 00:02. Posts 5748 | Profile Blog # |
On May 28 2012 23:54 Hyeon wrote:
Also, reason why i asked Hacklebeast and EleGant to do this on Weekends is because of Defi. Defi's on holiday now, don't want to do that without him(it's defi who sponsored). I already annouced on OP that it will be casted later today...
Don't understand this^
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| [sc1f]eonzerg Spain. May 29 2012 00:05. Posts 1491 | Profile Blog # |
| my english is so bad but. TODAY MEAN TODAY ? or weekend ? xD |
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| Hyeon Korea (South). May 29 2012 00:07. Posts 366 | Profile Blog # |
On May 29 2012 00:02 Pholon wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 23:54 Hyeon wrote:
Also, reason why i asked Hacklebeast and EleGant to do this on Weekends is because of Defi. Defi's on holiday now, don't want to do that without him(it's defi who sponsored). I already annouced on OP that it will be casted later today...
Don't understand this^ Just tell us you have the replays and are working towards getting them streamed asap and I think everyone will be happy
Defi's the sponsor, don't want to do this without him literally.
OP says "Casting date : To be determined; later that day, most likely.", my mistake that ask ninazerg to write that sentence.
And yes, i have the replays already messaged sayle/elegant/hacklebeast. But seems Sayle's ignoring me hackle sleeping, elegant offline.Last edit: 2012-05-29 00:14:34 |
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| Hyeon Korea (South). May 29 2012 00:08. Posts 366 | Profile Blog # |
On May 29 2012 00:05 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
my english is so bad but. TODAY MEAN TODAY ? or weekend ? xD
mine is bad too but will make someone to stream as soon as possible -_- |
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| Darth Saros Czech Republic. May 29 2012 00:46. Posts 217 | Profile Blog # |
| Don't worry Hyeon, we(or at least me) are hugely thankful to you guys for organizing/sponsoring/playing this. It's just that the thread was misleading-everybody(including me) was super pumped to see it. |
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| gutshot United States. May 29 2012 00:48. Posts 404 | Profile # |
On May 28 2012 21:51 538 wrote:
That's so silly, why is the stream password protected in the first place?
bgvrt told me on stream chat it was at the organizer's request.
If you're organizing an event, people don't care when are the games actually played if they cant watch it live. As such, that "May 28th / 14:00 CET" is an utterly useless piece of information for an ordinary viewer. What the OP should contain as a date is the time of the actually available stream, with or without casting.
This is a very basic accessibility problem, and you're shooting yourself in the foot with it. Please treat the fans nicer, you're supposed to be doing this for them.
Bgvrt didn't say it was at the organizer's request but it was rather for not spoiling the results
I agree with the other part that the playtime shouldn't have been announced if streaming was not available at the same time |
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| 538 Hungary. May 29 2012 01:03. Posts 3775 | Profile Blog # |
On May 28 2012 23:54 Hyeon wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 21:51 538 wrote:
That's so silly, why is the stream password protected in the first place?
bgvrt told me on stream chat it was at the organizer's request.
If you're organizing an event, people don't care when are the games actually played if they cant watch it live. As such, that "May 28th / 14:00 CET" is an utterly useless piece of information for an ordinary viewer. What the OP should contain as a date is the time of the actually available stream, with or without casting.
This is a very basic accessibility problem, and you're shooting yourself in the foot with it. Please treat the fans nicer, you're supposed to be doing this for them.
My request? What? Really? I never asked bgvrt / pusan to put password on stream. I even don't know who bgvrt, just saw him restreams some afreeca channels. Also, i was watching Pusan's stream and observing. But there was no password, then how could i watch it? Because i'm korean? Don't get me wrong. Also, reason why i asked Hacklebeast and EleGant to do this on Weekends is because of Defi. Defi's on holiday now, don't want to do that without him(it's defi who sponsored). I already annouced on OP that it will be casted later today... Seriously, if you are a friend of bgvrt tell him to say truth, not trying to make dramas. I'll ask Sayle to do this or when he replies or Hacklebeast/EleGant when they answer.
I'm sure you, defi, the casters, and everyone else included in making this event happen want as many people to watch this as possible. For that goal, providing the fans easy access to it is just as important as making the showmatch happen.
What you should be doing:
- Agree with the casters on a casting date beforehand! (It looks like this didn't happen)
- Make that date publicly available, and advertise well in advance so people can prepare!
- Make it clear if there's going to be a live stream or not! If there is no live cast, then people don't care about when the games are played. The fact that you told us when are the games played made people expect a livestream of some sorts, that's why we went to bgvrt, because that was the only stream we were told about by anyone! It was your shortcomings that enabled any misunderstanding to happen in the first place!
(Were you watching Pusan on afreeca? In that case the answer to your question is yes, only Koreans can watch streams there. If it wasn't on afreeca, then the question is once again - why didn't you tell everyone about that stream?)
The fact that some restream was password protected is just a small problem here. The bigger problem is that you're not providing an easy way for people to follow this event. Agree beforehand with the casters about the cast date, and advertise that date well in advance (try to add it to the BW calendar if you're serious about it), and link a stream in the original post when it is live.
In my eyes, that is the most senseful and beneficial way to organize this, anything less doesn't do justice to the epicness of such a showmatch!
I truly appreciate your efforts, I'm just trying to help with my suggestions! |
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| Hyeon Korea (South). May 29 2012 01:17. Posts 366 | Profile Blog # |
On May 29 2012 00:46 Darth Saros wrote:
Don't worry Hyeon, we(or at least me) are hugely thankful to you guys for organizing/sponsoring/playing this. It's just that the thread was misleading-everybody(including me) was super pumped to see it.
Thanks.
On May 29 2012 00:48 gutshot wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 21:51 538 wrote:
That's so silly, why is the stream password protected in the first place?
bgvrt told me on stream chat it was at the organizer's request.
If you're organizing an event, people don't care when are the games actually played if they cant watch it live. As such, that "May 28th / 14:00 CET" is an utterly useless piece of information for an ordinary viewer. What the OP should contain as a date is the time of the actually available stream, with or without casting.
This is a very basic accessibility problem, and you're shooting yourself in the foot with it. Please treat the fans nicer, you're supposed to be doing this for them.
Bgvrt didn't say it was at the organizer's request but it was rather for not spoiling the results I agree with the other part that the playtime shouldn't have been announced if streaming was not available at the same time
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