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Womwomwom May 28 2012 10:47. Posts 5517 | Profile Blog # |
The AMD FX-8150 is currently $200. The Intel i5 2500k is $220. They are literally the same price. For gaming, the i5 2500k runs circles around the AMD FX-8150. If you can't afford an extra $20, then I don't know what to say. Most people would consider these processors to be in the same price region.
The thing is if you just want to play games and must get an AMD processor, what is wrong with the old Phenom 2 processors? The Phenom 2 processors are just as good as Bulldozer when it comes to gaming.
TechReport always does a value proposition graph - this was done during the FX processor's launch. Even if the AMD FX processors are now around $50 cheaper, they are still not better value:
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Keep in mind this includes multi-threaded tasks such as video conversion and whatnot. The FX processors are so bad at single threaded performance that their module system isn't enough to beat the i5 2500k in terms of price/performance. Last edit: 2012-05-28 10:57:27 |
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| Roman666 Poland. May 28 2012 12:41. Posts 635 | Profile # |
| BD 81XX has 4 cores, and 4 logical integer units. Games use floating point arithmetics most of the time, so those integer cores are virtually useless when gaming. It can outperform Intel processors in multithreaded tasks like video compression but thats it. Point is: for gaming rigs it is much better to go with Intel nowadays. |
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| SiNKami United States. May 28 2012 12:46. Posts 1762 | Profile Blog # |
| With the FX CPU's, you need to figure out which cores are real and which cores a virtual. I think for the "Quad Core" FX processors, the real cores are 0 and 2. not sure about the other cpu's though. |
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| WTFZerg United States. May 28 2012 13:24. Posts 651 | Profile # |
| If you can afford to go Intel, go Intel. The only reason I'm on AMD still is because I can't justify the cost to go from my 1090T to an Intel. Last edit: 2012-05-28 13:24:37 |
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| iKill[ShocK] Vietnam. May 28 2012 14:02. Posts 1187 | Profile Blog # |
| Even if your budget is low you can still go intel.. 2500k isn't the only CPU there is |
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| wcLLg United States. May 28 2012 14:47. Posts 189 | Profile # |
| No one has delivered pics to the op which is what he is asking for. So, you can all gtfo with your synthetic benchmarks. |
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| Infernal_dream United States. May 28 2012 14:53. Posts 1583 | Profile # |
On May 28 2012 14:47 wcLLg wrote: No one has delivered pics to the op which is what he is asking for. So, you can all gtfo with your synthetic benchmarks.
No they haven't. They're providing better. So you can gtfo with your troll post. Everyone here has posted more than enough information for the OP. More info isn't bad. |
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| Rollin Australia. May 28 2012 15:02. Posts 1147 | Profile # | |
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| RebirthOfLeGenD USA. May 28 2012 17:19. Posts 5342 | Profile Blog # | |
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| nalgene Canada. May 28 2012 17:44. Posts 2145 | Profile # |
On May 28 2012 14:47 wcLLg wrote: No one has delivered pics to the op which is what he is asking for. So, you can all gtfo with your synthetic benchmarks.
Only cinebench in those are synthetic... the rest are all real world applications.. |
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| jacosajh May 28 2012 21:48. Posts 2522 | Profile Blog # |
Threads like this tend to get jumped on because lose threads with misinformation have a potential to screw someone over. |
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LatsyrC Haiti. May 28 2012 21:51. Posts 76 | Profile # |
in the last one ppl will said that not possible lol... good to see that result thanks |
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| EdenPLusDucky Singapore. May 28 2012 22:20. Posts 566 | Profile Blog # |
| Nobody said that it wasn't possible. The last test was done with lowest settings, so some might argue that the two CPUs can only match each other in terms of sc2 performance if it was bottlenecked by a GPU. |
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| Shikyo Finland. May 28 2012 22:34. Posts 20142 | Profile Blog # |
On May 27 2012 13:24 LatsyrC wrote: Show nested quote +On May 27 2012 13:17 JingleHell wrote: On May 27 2012 13:13 LatsyrC wrote: On May 27 2012 12:57 JingleHell wrote: On May 27 2012 12:50 LatsyrC wrote: When Heart of the Swarm is released (or possibly Legacy of the Void), will Starcraft 2 optimially make usage of QuadCores and 6sixCores and 8Cores processors?
QuadCores and 6sixCores and 8Cores is the future of gaming and Heart of the Swarm is a game in the future!
its a shame that ppl have those type of CPU and Sc2 doesnt take advantage of that.
My crystal ball says no, it won't, or if it does, it won't be significant. Also, to my understanding, Bulldozer 6 and 8 core CPUs are closer to 3 and 4 core CPUs with a (bad) HT knockoff, rather than true hex and octocores. Or at least, that was one of the things AMD fanboys were using to defend the subpar performance judged by the advertised number of cores. But when you consider that it loses to a 2500k clock for clock, even in threaded benches, why would you buy it? Do you just not have room under your desk for a PC and a space heater?
i thinks is game engine fault rather than CPU fault, FX CPU are good enough for what you pay for them, FX8120 for 160 its good enough, most today games aren't optimized for even quadcores CPUs, the only game i see taking advantage or more CPU its BF3, if you have a friend with a AM3+ mobo with a X2 or X3 CPU, and doesnt have money for intel, will you give him the rest he needs to switch to intel? i guess no, so everyone buys what cover your needs.
Yes, it's the engine for SC2, I was just running off on a tangent about why it wouldn't matter, because it's STILL a shitty CPU. If you have an AM3+ mobo and need an upgrade to more cores, I tell you to upgrade to a Ph2 x4 or x6, which are MUCH better per dollar than Bulldozer. That's only if you can't afford to switch to something good.
those are old CPU that no one will buy once i decide to sell them
I wasn't sure if I should take this thread seriously until I saw this, but were you seriously implying someone might want to buy a bulldozer?
Also, Bulldozer is the very worst modern architecture for gaming and even Phenom II is far better for that while Intel everything decimates Bulldozer. Bulldozer only is competitive in benches that are capped by the graphics card.
Many Steam games don't even work with Bulldozer at all.
I don't understand why you continuously argue this? Truth is truth, it's not an opinion or biased websites, god. Last edit: 2012-05-28 22:37:32 |
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| Boblhead United States. May 29 2012 04:09. Posts 2557 | Profile # |
On May 28 2012 22:34 Shikyo wrote:
Many Steam games don't even work with Bulldozer at all.
My nephew has the fx 4100 and can play all steam games he has on high settings. Don't say they can't play games when they can. |
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| jacosajh May 29 2012 04:40. Posts 2522 | Profile Blog # |
| It's true; I've read about it some time ago. Not sure if it's still the case or only limited to some CPUs. But to be fair, SB also had its share of problems when it first came out. |
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| SiNKami United States. May 29 2012 07:09. Posts 1762 | Profile Blog # |
I agree. People are being misinformed and along with that, people are trying to look into something that they dont understand. So its just turning into a big shitfest of shit. |
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