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 marvellosity   United Kingdom. June 12 2012 01:23. Posts 11240
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Well, aren't I off to a flyer :x
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 chaoser   United States. June 12 2012 01:30. Posts 5538
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On June 12 2012 01:20 rastaban wrote:

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Exactly, Millers can claim now (what I prefer as it gives us information now), or they can not claim (as Toad prefers as the confusion may stifle real discussion). Later in the game someone we are suspicious of is checked by a cop and shows red, he then claims miller. He still gets shot as the time for claiming has past and it gives mafia an out.


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Scum (except GF) can't shoot so no they don't. However I don't know about the plan of having them shoot whoever they think is most suspicious. If they are town and are in that spot they have most likely been playing sub-optimally (the reason they are in this spot to begin with) so having them make the call seems like it could wind up with us losing more obvious townies. Maybe they shoot the second most suspicious person. Its like a duel where the 2 most suspicious people have to shoot it out and if one is mafia 3/4ths of the time he doesn't have a gun to shoot back with.



I was actually thinking of this too but I ended up picking the "they get to shoot who they think is most suspicious" cause I didn't want it to be all town controlled and that person has no control whatsoever. From playing in Liar's Game, it was very easy to see that people played extremely sub-optimally when people felt left out or not in control. Also I felt like if the person was allowed to shoot the person they felt was most suspicious, if they hit mafia, then they get a retrieval and if they hit a townie, they would be more likely to re-evaluate their actions and thoughts up to that point and thus return as a better "player" the following cycle.
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 chaoser   United States. June 12 2012 01:32. Posts 5538
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reprieve, not retrieval*
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 VisceraEyes   United States. June 12 2012 01:38. Posts 9679
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The scum GF is going to have a lot of power. He can shoot teammates for towncred if they get a big enough lead.

Anyway, this setup speculation is fun and everything, but I'm mostly interested to hear from people who haven't posted yet.
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 marvellosity   United Kingdom. June 12 2012 01:39. Posts 11240
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If the dude is playing badly and he's townie and under suspicion, he's probably going to misfire... is it really worth a likely townie death in the hope they may magically start playing better next cycle?
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 MrZentor   United States. June 12 2012 01:49. Posts 1541
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Yeah, having the two people whom we think are most suspicious shoot each other seems much better than allowing a bad townie choose who lives and who dies.
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 chaoser   United States. June 12 2012 01:54. Posts 5538
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On June 12 2012 01:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
The scum GF is going to have a lot of power. He can shoot teammates for towncred if they get a big enough lead.

Anyway, this setup speculation is fun and everything, but I'm mostly interested to hear from people who haven't posted yet.


That's why we take everything with a grain of salt? Or do you guys just not re-evaluate ever as game goes on lol? There's no such thing as absolute towncred; If someone is killing it and destroying mafia left and right and yet still making it to endgame, you can be sure, when stacked up with the other remaining survivors, that he's mafia.
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 FreelanceSatan   June 12 2012 02:17. Posts 36
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ok I just woke up got my role and went over thread. Apparently you guys are trying to find a way to take advantage of millers and that sounds like a good topic to start discussion on but I dont exactly see how pressuring millers to claim is gonna confirm them or anything with a GF that can be miller and shoot in game it reduces authenticity of any miller claim.

I think you guys need to slow down with trying to put together odd ball plans that rely on so much unknown variables and just focus on the one thing town does best. scum hunting.

( also why did chaos threaten to shoot a claimed miller when like 90% of thread is indicating that they approve of the plan on some level??) that just doesnt feel right.

I would FOS chaos for that.

Anyway im not a miller however..

I will volunteer to take the first shot if you guys have a plan other than "shoot your biggest scum read so your confirmed townie" cause honestly how accurate are scum reads on day 1. (not very) and the last thing we need is townies offing townies during the day and scum offing townies during the night.
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 FreelanceSatan   June 12 2012 02:19. Posts 36
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just to be clear in case yall didnt catch it im claiming vanilla townie.
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 FreelanceSatan   June 12 2012 02:20. Posts 36
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I feel dirty like ken pachi now.
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 Meapak_Ziphh   United States. June 12 2012 02:22. Posts 4149
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I agree with the "reduce oddball plans" sentiment FS although I'm a bit confused by your FoS. Care to explain why it doesn't feel right?
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 FreelanceSatan   June 12 2012 02:23. Posts 36
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well it feels like chaoser was threatened by the prospect of town possibly working together to find a usefull way to handle millers.
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 chaoser   United States. June 12 2012 02:26. Posts 5538
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( also why did chaos threaten to shoot a claimed miller when like 90% of thread is indicating that they approve of the plan on some level??) that just doesnt feel right.


When did I say this?
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 FreelanceSatan   June 12 2012 02:27. Posts 36
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wait did I get you confused with someone else?

Lemme go back
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 FreelanceSatan   June 12 2012 02:29. Posts 36
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On June 12 2012 00:22 MrZentor wrote:

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Is anybody else bothered by this?

There's no reason you should "veto" a decision because you can shoot.

Regardless of the topic, it stunts discussion, which is really scummy.



this was what i was reading. sorry i had thought it was chaoser for some reason.. i think it was gonzaw actually. lemme go re read his wall of text
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 MrZentor   United States. June 12 2012 02:30. Posts 1541
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He was trying to copy my reason for being suspicious of Rastaban, but he confused Rastaban with chaoser.

FAIL
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 FreelanceSatan   June 12 2012 02:34. Posts 36
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I just woke up bro. And im not trying to "copy your reason" im agreeing with it. highlighting it and supporting it.

You dont like when people support your reads??
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 MrZentor   United States. June 12 2012 02:35. Posts 1541
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There's nothing wrong with copying as long as you do it accurately and add on your own ideas.

I have an irrational fear of being misquoted. >.<
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 rastaban   United States. June 12 2012 02:40. Posts 2223
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You guys do understand I was referring to shooting people claiming miller in later stages of the game future and not ones claiming now (which i was for). I just point this out since FreelanceSatan's quote below references wanting to shoot the claiming millers.


also why did chaos Rastaban threaten to shoot a claimed miller when like 90% of thread is indicating that they approve of the plan on some level??





What i was saying was
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 rastaban   United States. June 12 2012 02:42. Posts 2223
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wow how did my post get so mangled...

What i was saying was basically Millers can claim or not claim now but once the game progresses their is no use in claiming miller as at that point they should be shot.
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