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| NrT.RuSH Germany. June 01 2012 02:53. Posts 209 | Profile # |
| sad to find out lightpwnr hacked. ;/ |
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| Adreme United States. June 01 2012 02:59. Posts 3950 | Profile # |
On May 31 2012 14:53 Karawasa wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 13:51 CarelessPride wrote:
any1 realize hacks for wow get patched within days while maphacks been out for years and blizzard never gave a fuck? lol yea difference between a game earning them money and a game that doesn't.
This is the answer to everything. Not being sarcastic either.
No its not. People have been hacking wow for a long time now with no fix in site because of how wow and warden2 works. The reason they cant automate fix it is because they dont have a great way to detect it. |
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| BeeNu June 01 2012 03:11. Posts 615 | Profile # |
On June 01 2012 02:53 NrT.RuSH wrote:
sad to find out lightpwnr hacked. ;/
Yeah forreal, I played him on ladder once and he beat me with what I thought was a "coin-flip build" [in hindsight was probably maphacking ;_; ] but then he convinced me that he was just really good and had solid reasoning behind it all so I would occasionally take advice from him. He gave me some really strange and wacky advice for certain matchups which...in hindsight he was probably talking out of his ass, but nevertheless I managed to implement some of the things he said and come up with some really cool and strong strategies out of it all so I guess it all worked out for the best.
I wish I had saved the replay of our ladder match cuz it'd be interesting to go back and look at it now, but oh well.Last edit: 2012-06-01 03:13:32 |
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| EtherealDeath United States. June 01 2012 03:27. Posts 8158 | Profile Blog # |
On May 31 2012 22:52 HenryZ wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 22:50 pingy[wen] wrote:Content: 1. he doesn't look through the fogs of war in the replay, but his screen pauses for a bit throughout the game. 2. 14 mins, sends entire army to kill one marine that he doesn't know is there. 3. 14:50 mins, walks up the ramp as if setting up a better concave to attack (not REALLY that suspicious UNTIL 4. 15 mins, stims entire army to attack watchtower which had my army (but he shouldnt' know that) 5. 19 mins, stims to kill my scouting factory JUST as it get around him. 6. 21:45, does a double take with the medivacs to avoid the zerg army, COULD just be trying to juke me out, just note it though. 7. 26:45, waits with his army selected slightly away from ledge. stims entire army, and catches my drop before he even has vision. Replay: http://drop.sc/172309Profile: http://sc2ranks.com/la/119429/NITRIXENERGYhe has 50apm at the end of the match, which is unusually low...even for offracing. doesn't use his OC energy well at all...though he is offracing apparently.
The 1v1 on all the nitrix accounts are leveld by someone so the people who play team games on it are maphacking it seems
As far as I know, all/most the nitrix accounts are leveled by vVvDaisuki, and the accounts actually belong to people in the Brazilian community (which he appears to be from, as his game client is in Portuguese).
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| TheTrueFBIAGENT Albania. June 01 2012 03:28. Posts 1 | Profile # |
I thought long about posting this, and it can be just a coincidence since I think Nerchio is an ok guy and he has good lan results, but
http://drop.sc/189208
Take a look at 2:23.
Right as the terran player cancels his gas, he looks exactly on the geyser through the fog of war for some seconds. Another noteworthy thing is that he says his build can not fail vs 3cc and banshee, even though he hadn't scouted the third cc when he decided to make all those units.
I hope I am just wrong and this is just random.
Edit: My point is not the build he did, but the look WITHOUT vision. He maybe just said it because he saw the third cc when killing the terran.Last edit: 2012-06-01 04:01:32 |
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| EtherealDeath United States. June 01 2012 03:51. Posts 8158 | Profile Blog # |
On June 01 2012 03:28 TheTrueFBIAGENT wrote:I thought long about posting this, and it can be just a coincidence since I think Nerchio is an ok guy and he has good lan results, but http://drop.sc/189208Take a look at 2:23. Right as the terran player cancels his gas, he looks exactly on the geyser through the fog of war for some seconds. Another noteworthy thing is that he says his build can not fail vs 3cc and banshee, even though he hadn't scouted the third cc when he decided to make all those units. I hope I am just wrong and this is just random.
1. Yes the long stare is weird, but he could just be thinking about shit, or tabbed out or whatever else.
2. Actually I find the build he did not too weird, for the following reason. Here is my ordered thought process if I were scouting what Nerchio did.
A) No gas, so 2rax or 1 rax. Make 8 ling, make double queen, get speed, check for shit. Lots of SCV, so not proxy rax very quickly (if I counted them). So, don't need spine right away, can scout first.
B) Ok looks like it was a 1rax, no pressure yet. Scout his front, only 4 marine. Interesting, quite a low count. Must be planning for tech play or some sort of silly shit like maybe 6 rax pure marine?
C) Ok takes his gas, expecting hellions now. Gas is really late so if he tries barracks shit I will have roaches and more lings out in time to crush. May as well roach ling to all in any expand with hellions.
D) Still no hellions 6 minutes in....
E) See no hellions 7 minutes in, factory has reactor now at front though.
F) Still no expand.... tech is slow... we know he 1 rax FE'd to begin with, but that he is unwilling to come down his ramp means he is sacrificing the econ advantage of his 1 rax FE. So, he must be insecure of coming down which means low unit count or hiding an all in (and notice he has been unwilling to put any pressure on us all game!), since going no gas opening into all in this late would be quite very weak. So, if we had to take a bet, go with 3 cc.
G) Scout main, see starport with tech lab. Throw down spore at each base.
So, all in all not too weird. Also, I don't feel he committed to the all in until even after I would have called some sort of low army build, probably 3cc or tech or both.Last edit: 2012-06-01 03:52:26 |
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 YouMake United States. June 01 2012 03:58. Posts 262 | Profile Blog # |
| Impa has either been banned or name changed. Cuz he is no longer on NA GM lol.. |
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| EtherealDeath United States. June 01 2012 04:03. Posts 8158 | Profile Blog # |
On June 01 2012 03:58 YouMake wrote:
Impa has either been banned or name changed. Cuz he is no longer on NA GM lol..
Read the OP he got demoted to Bronze. GJ Blizzard lol! |
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| mDuo13 United States. June 01 2012 04:10. Posts 220 | Profile Blog # |
| I'm glad that this thread is getting results. Good work, everyone! |
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| Starshaped Sweden. June 01 2012 04:11. Posts 575 | Profile Blog # |
| No offense, but nobody will watch a 50 minute video when it can easily be condensed to about 5 minutes. Just show the suspicious moves and leave it at that. |
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CruiseR  Poland. June 01 2012 04:20. Posts 3921 | Profile # |
On June 01 2012 04:03 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 03:58 YouMake wrote:
Impa has either been banned or name changed. Cuz he is no longer on NA GM lol..
Read the OP he got demoted to Bronze. GJ Blizzard lol!
so now Blizzard demotes to bronze for blatant maphacking?
I am very disappointed if that's the case, just because he can hack again and get into GM in new season, or just continue playing in masters or w/e
Seems like a no punishment for me, locking account is the only way imo (and i still think like 80% of hackers would buy another acc and hack again if they were banned).
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Edit: And the guys who are taking this reddit troll seriously, wtf is wrong with u?Last edit: 2012-06-01 04:21:59 |
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| FabledIntegral United States. June 01 2012 04:25. Posts 8379 | Profile Blog # |
On June 01 2012 03:27 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 22:52 HenryZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 22:50 pingy[wen] wrote:Content: 1. he doesn't look through the fogs of war in the replay, but his screen pauses for a bit throughout the game. 2. 14 mins, sends entire army to kill one marine that he doesn't know is there. 3. 14:50 mins, walks up the ramp as if setting up a better concave to attack (not REALLY that suspicious UNTIL 4. 15 mins, stims entire army to attack watchtower which had my army (but he shouldnt' know that) 5. 19 mins, stims to kill my scouting factory JUST as it get around him. 6. 21:45, does a double take with the medivacs to avoid the zerg army, COULD just be trying to juke me out, just note it though. 7. 26:45, waits with his army selected slightly away from ledge. stims entire army, and catches my drop before he even has vision. Replay: http://drop.sc/172309Profile: http://sc2ranks.com/la/119429/NITRIXENERGYhe has 50apm at the end of the match, which is unusually low...even for offracing. doesn't use his OC energy well at all...though he is offracing apparently.
The 1v1 on all the nitrix accounts are leveld by someone so the people who play team games on it are maphacking it seems
As far as I know, all/most the nitrix accounts are leveled by vVvDaisuki, and the accounts actually belong to people in the Brazilian community (which he appears to be from, as his game client is in Portuguese).
Daisuki def doesn't hack, I beat him on NITRIXEnergy where I did a 2gate at the natural (pylon at the natural, then 2gate instead of forge) and his ovelord hit my main on Shakuras and he simply assumed I forge expanded. Any maphack would have seen the 2gate. Instead he got rolled by like 5 zealots vs 8 lings and 2 queens.
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| lightpwnr Israel. June 01 2012 04:30. Posts 15 | Profile # |
On May 31 2012 14:42 BuffloBEAST wrote:Just in case anymore evidence is needed, here is a replay lightpwnr with some obvious map hacking: http://replayfu.com/r/crSZPdEDIT: The sc2ranks link on the download page leads to a profile named venusaur. Not sure if that's a name change or what.
I quit sc2. I told blizz I wanted the accont deleted. LGlightpwnr no longer will and or ever shall play sc2. |
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| NMxhendralisk Zimbabwe. June 01 2012 04:30. Posts 674 | Profile # |
On June 01 2012 04:25 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 03:27 EtherealDeath wrote:
On May 31 2012 22:52 HenryZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 22:50 pingy[wen] wrote:Content: 1. he doesn't look through the fogs of war in the replay, but his screen pauses for a bit throughout the game. 2. 14 mins, sends entire army to kill one marine that he doesn't know is there. 3. 14:50 mins, walks up the ramp as if setting up a better concave to attack (not REALLY that suspicious UNTIL 4. 15 mins, stims entire army to attack watchtower which had my army (but he shouldnt' know that) 5. 19 mins, stims to kill my scouting factory JUST as it get around him. 6. 21:45, does a double take with the medivacs to avoid the zerg army, COULD just be trying to juke me out, just note it though. 7. 26:45, waits with his army selected slightly away from ledge. stims entire army, and catches my drop before he even has vision. Replay: http://drop.sc/172309Profile: http://sc2ranks.com/la/119429/NITRIXENERGYhe has 50apm at the end of the match, which is unusually low...even for offracing. doesn't use his OC energy well at all...though he is offracing apparently.
The 1v1 on all the nitrix accounts are leveld by someone so the people who play team games on it are maphacking it seems
As far as I know, all/most the nitrix accounts are leveled by vVvDaisuki, and the accounts actually belong to people in the Brazilian community (which he appears to be from, as his game client is in Portuguese).
Daisuki def doesn't hack, I beat him on NITRIXEnergy where I did a 2gate at the natural (pylon at the natural, then 2gate instead of forge) and his ovelord hit my main on Shakuras and he simply assumed I forge expanded. Any maphack would have seen the 2gate. Instead he got rolled by like 5 zealots vs 8 lings and 2 queens.
Don't think he gets paid to play team games, so it's probably the br players
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| houseurmusic United States. June 01 2012 04:34. Posts 536 | Profile Blog # |
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| Get.Midikem Sweden. June 01 2012 04:38. Posts 312 | Profile # |
On June 01 2012 04:34 houseurmusic wrote:I love this thread
Yeah agree love it two. Would be awesome if blizzard did this instead of the community though. |
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| EtherealDeath United States. June 01 2012 04:39. Posts 8158 | Profile Blog # |
On June 01 2012 04:25 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 03:27 EtherealDeath wrote:
On May 31 2012 22:52 HenryZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 22:50 pingy[wen] wrote:Content: 1. he doesn't look through the fogs of war in the replay, but his screen pauses for a bit throughout the game. 2. 14 mins, sends entire army to kill one marine that he doesn't know is there. 3. 14:50 mins, walks up the ramp as if setting up a better concave to attack (not REALLY that suspicious UNTIL 4. 15 mins, stims entire army to attack watchtower which had my army (but he shouldnt' know that) 5. 19 mins, stims to kill my scouting factory JUST as it get around him. 6. 21:45, does a double take with the medivacs to avoid the zerg army, COULD just be trying to juke me out, just note it though. 7. 26:45, waits with his army selected slightly away from ledge. stims entire army, and catches my drop before he even has vision. Replay: http://drop.sc/172309Profile: http://sc2ranks.com/la/119429/NITRIXENERGYhe has 50apm at the end of the match, which is unusually low...even for offracing. doesn't use his OC energy well at all...though he is offracing apparently.
The 1v1 on all the nitrix accounts are leveld by someone so the people who play team games on it are maphacking it seems
As far as I know, all/most the nitrix accounts are leveled by vVvDaisuki, and the accounts actually belong to people in the Brazilian community (which he appears to be from, as his game client is in Portuguese).
Daisuki def doesn't hack, I beat him on NITRIXEnergy where I did a 2gate at the natural (pylon at the natural, then 2gate instead of forge) and his ovelord hit my main on Shakuras and he simply assumed I forge expanded. Any maphack would have seen the 2gate. Instead he got rolled by like 5 zealots vs 8 lings and 2 queens.
Nono Daisuki doesn't hack lol. I'm just telling them who as far as I know actually levels the accounts in 1v1, and what group those accounts belong to (and are used for team games). Miscommunication lol.
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| iAmJeffReY United States. June 01 2012 04:46. Posts 3388 | Profile # |
On June 01 2012 04:30 lightpwnr wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 14:42 BuffloBEAST wrote:Just in case anymore evidence is needed, here is a replay lightpwnr with some obvious map hacking: http://replayfu.com/r/crSZPdEDIT: The sc2ranks link on the download page leads to a profile named venusaur. Not sure if that's a name change or what.
I quit sc2. I told blizz I wanted the accont deleted. LGlightpwnr no longer will and or ever shall play sc2.
lol great sad story. |
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| SgtCoDFish United Kingdom. June 01 2012 04:52. Posts 1449 | Profile Blog # |
On May 31 2012 14:53 Karawasa wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 13:51 CarelessPride wrote:
any1 realize hacks for wow get patched within days while maphacks been out for years and blizzard never gave a fuck? lol yea difference between a game earning them money and a game that doesn't.
This is the answer to everything. Not being sarcastic either.
No, it's nothing to do with it. Clearly neither of you have any idea how hack detection actually works, or indeed basic logic.
1) If someone's automating or doing an obvious hack in wow, shitloads of people will see it. If a guy starts moving at 100x normal speed, people will notice and reports will go in. If you see a comp bot farming mobs for gold drops, it's obvious it's a bot, and it can be reported again. There is also the chance for multiple people to quickly report. This leads to a larger number of reports in a shorter amount of time compared to SC2 map hacks, where the maphacker plays 1v1 for 10-20 mins against each person and it might not be obvious he hacked. Much lower number of reports, and if you factor out troll reports of innocent people, it'll take a while for anything significant to appear on blizzards' radar.
2) Map hacks work by reading the game state from open memory. There's nothing Blizzard can realistically do about preventing that. WoW automation requires a bot repeating the same actions over and over and sending them to the server. WoW speedhacks or whatever can be programmed to send a clear red alert if someone's moving that fast.
3) Things like blink automation tools could in theory be auto-detected if they're made badly, but for every hour Blizzard spends trying to make better detection, hackers can spend two avoiding it. It's cat-and-mouse and the mouse is always ahead (unless he gets sued, then he might stop but another will likely take his place... the analogy kinda breaks down there)
4) WoW and SC2 are completely different games. Hack detection is wildly different between them anyway. Comparing them is as pointless as comparing SC2 and Counter Strike
"Preventing" and "detecting" hacks in SC2 isn't going to happen on a regular, reliable basis unless hackers get lazy (and they won't). Best way to deal with shit like this is to ban people who do it (and make damn sure there isn't a key generator for SC2 that allows them to make a new account for free).
Go away with your "Bli$$ard" conspiracies, they're actually not applicable. |
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| BeeNu June 01 2012 05:52. Posts 615 | Profile # |
FYI Lightpwnr has been hanging out in the Zerg Strategy channel under the name Venusaur trying to scam people with his $15 an hour coaching lessons now.
So much for quitting SC2 eh?Last edit: 2012-06-01 05:52:52 |
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