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| Zephirdd Brazil. May 31 2012 10:32. Posts 4519 | Profile Blog # |
On May 31 2012 09:34 Zephirdd wrote:
Kurumi and wbg need to vote
lol nvm im stupid
wbg and someone else needs to vote >_>' |
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| Sbrubbles Brazil. May 31 2012 10:40. Posts 2184 | Profile # |
Just got home. Submitting my vote.
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| kitaman27 United States. May 31 2012 11:15. Posts 4555 | Profile Blog # |
Day 1![[image loading]](http://www.tampagov.net/dept_fire_rescue_public_education/information_resources/adults/images/poison.jpg)
"WITCH U INSANE BISCHE"
"LOL WAT?"
"Im perfectly, absolutely, positibely INSANE!"
"Duh!"
back from the ramblings into the black portal
"DAT BLACK PORTAL!"
"Uhh, Real Life Portal"
"No it is not!"
"Yes it is!"
"SHUT U!PHFUEAIWGKJ ASGJMASJKFDSHAJKGSHJKFG"
^above guy still drunk
The fail witch, atleast wasn't THAT fail, the fail MALE (that's right!) witch casted a spell on dem goodies and baddies group to kill one of the group each day!
"Must Kill Noobs......"
"Must get Portal to connect laser...."
"Must play Portal......."
The clearly sane raves of some of the group! Anyway, you guys got to kill one of yer group! (not really the fail witch let someone live if he doesnt have majority of favor LOOL)
The Men of the world we're laughing their arses of watcing this, instantly being simply electrified watching this simply flowed their pay (its the last day of the month fuck yeah) into the nearest pub to drink wildly while crashing every place in the world with a tv!
Oh, just remembered the baddies got a AWESOME POWER! for some reason the goodies too lawl
Thanks to bluelightz again o.O
It is now day 1. Option three has been selected as the poison.
The mafia team recieves a secret hidden vote. You have 48 hours to determine the first lynch. |
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| Zephirdd Brazil. May 31 2012 11:21. Posts 4519 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Zephirdd Brazil. May 31 2012 11:25. Posts 4519 | Profile Blog # |
errr there is more to say, actually. First,
On May 30 2012 20:16 Zephirdd wrote:##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/?b644rKEia/eqd8/fjaSJjh8ft+Ga2gbCDQcJnm8znA4gWzcXOVmbpSKHpLLxCLj ZCIAhqK1EmupAZoQfMKGr/kI1rDlO2chS6Vn8sr52uJtCPk=?64b ##### End encrypted message I'll release the key after the deadline. This is the role I voted for mafia. I suggest that everyone do this, so we know which role mafia has after the deadline.
The key is "zephirdd" and when using it to decrypt, the phrase is "I picked Framer for the mafia". Kurumi's reasonings convinced me much more than Radfield's.
Also, I don't like that Radfield was initially against registering votes pre-deadline. The Rad I know doesn't just "skim" by what people say.
Still, his town meta is "too town to be town", and here is just... normal town. Or rather, near null. That makes him red in my eyes.
Discuss. |
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| wherebugsgo United States. May 31 2012 12:33. Posts 7940 | Profile Blog # |
oh shit it was only 24 hours
my bad guys, I was intending to vote the majority + 1 option.
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| wherebugsgo United States. May 31 2012 12:34. Posts 7940 | Profile Blog # |
| I voted for framer though. |
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| Kurumi Poland. May 31 2012 14:30. Posts 5140 | Profile Blog # |
| Sorry for ninja vote yesterday night , forgot to pick anything. I think that the hidden vote does nothing unless we coordinate things wrong. Remember guys , play to win , so dont stick Your single vote on someone and just let it go. I voted for 2shot framer. Question everything. I still think Radfield is scum. I will try to look at his meta harder and see if I can find more scum. |
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| talismania United States. May 31 2012 14:40. Posts 2364 | Profile Blog # |
| Don't have my key because I'm on iPhone but I voted for roleblocker. |
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| prplhz Denmark. May 31 2012 18:07. Posts 3936 | Profile Blog # |
My key is "brettmichaels" (the guy in the OP banner) and I voted for roleblocker. |
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Radfield  Canada. May 31 2012 19:02. Posts 2681 | Profile # |
On May 31 2012 11:25 Zephirdd wrote:errr there is more to say, actually. First,
Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 20:16 Zephirdd wrote:##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/?b644rKEia/eqd8/fjaSJjh8ft+Ga2gbCDQcJnm8znA4gWzcXOVmbpSKHpLLxCLj ZCIAhqK1EmupAZoQfMKGr/kI1rDlO2chS6Vn8sr52uJtCPk=?64b ##### End encrypted message I'll release the key after the deadline. This is the role I voted for mafia. I suggest that everyone do this, so we know which role mafia has after the deadline.
The key is "zephirdd" and when using it to decrypt, the phrase is "I picked Framer for the mafia". Kurumi's reasonings convinced me much more than Radfield's. Also, I don't like that Radfield was initially against registering votes pre-deadline. The Rad I know doesn't just "skim" by what people say. Still, his town meta is "too town to be town", and here is just... normal town. Or rather, near null. That makes him red in my eyes. Discuss.
Then you don't know me very well Zephridd  I skim read all the time, and I do mean all the time. The strength of my play is that I go back and reread many times, and filter everyone many times. Knowing when you can skim and when you need to pay attention is something every good player utilizes, particularly when time is short. Yesterday I had points I wanted to make, and not enough time to do it in(particularly in the morning, when I didn't even finish my post).
I obviously picked roleblocker.
Anyways, the reason we publicly wanted roleblocker is that we desperately want a medic in this setup, and mafia knowing they are getting roleblocker dramatically increases the odds of us getting one. Consider that pretty much every single mini game ever has the potential for town to have a medic/jailkeeper/etc, the reason for this being that even the threat of having a protective role means mafia can't just shoot whomever they want, whenever they want.
You guys are talking as if mafia having the roleblocker is dangerous because they can roleblock any blue claims, but that makes no sense. If we have no medic, mafia don't need to roleblock, they just shoot claimers in the face. If there is no medic in the setup, then roleblocker is an almost completely useless role for mafia. Think someone is blue? Shoot them in the face. Someone claims? Shoot them in the face.
The reason that we have a much better chance of getting a medic by choosing roleblocker is that cop and tracker are far and away the worst roles for town in this setup, especially considering that mafia might get gf/framer. Tracker is especially bad, because of the fact that mafia get to choose which one performs the kill, and will always pick whomever is the most town, making the role almost useless unless the tracker holds his abilities until lategame. By picking roleblocker and mafia knowing it, they will likely shy away from giving us the information roles, and instead give us 2 of Vig/Medic/IC. However even if they give us one of those roles and the tracker, the one role they will probably give us is the medic, as I don't think most people realize how important it is to have a medic in a small setup.
Again, having a medic is very important for us, because a medic doesn't even have to make a save and can still turn the tide of a game by forcing mafia to shoot away from the most obvious/strong townies. Picking roleblocker gave us the highest chance of getting that medic.
Did players who became power roles KNOW they were going to be power roles before day 1? Or were they given the exact same vanilla PM as all the other players |
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| Radfield Canada. May 31 2012 19:09. Posts 2681 | Profile # |
On May 31 2012 11:25 Zephirdd wrote:errr there is more to say, actually. First,
Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 20:16 Zephirdd wrote:##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/?b644rKEia/eqd8/fjaSJjh8ft+Ga2gbCDQcJnm8znA4gWzcXOVmbpSKHpLLxCLj ZCIAhqK1EmupAZoQfMKGr/kI1rDlO2chS6Vn8sr52uJtCPk=?64b ##### End encrypted message I'll release the key after the deadline. This is the role I voted for mafia. I suggest that everyone do this, so we know which role mafia has after the deadline.
The key is "zephirdd" and when using it to decrypt, the phrase is "I picked Framer for the mafia". Kurumi's reasonings convinced me much more than Radfield's. Also, I don't like that Radfield was initially against registering votes pre-deadline. The Rad I know doesn't just "skim" by what people say. Still, his town meta is "too town to be town", and here is just... normal town. Or rather, near null. That makes him red in my eyes. Discuss.
If this is an actual accusation, as in you're willing to vote for me day 1, you better do a hell of a lot better than that. You're essentially saying that you see me as town, but not super duper town(24 hours into the game), so therefore you see me as scum.
If that is your actual argument, and you are willing to follow that through to a lynch, then I don't know what to say to you. There is obviously no rebuttal by me other than just ignoring you and continuing playing.
I'd like you to state in detail why you think I am scum.
I would also like you to state in detail why you picked framer, and what specifically swayed your opinion. |
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| Radfield Canada. May 31 2012 19:41. Posts 2681 | Profile # |
Hmm, for some reason I thought the tracker was 2-shot, but that is not the case. That makes tracker a better role.
However, anyone afraid of the roleblocker wasn't really looking at the roles.
Innocent Child: Cannot be roleblocked
1-shot Cop: Basically cannot be roleblocked, since once he claims he no longer has any abilities
Medic: Should never claim, and is extremely difficult to roleblock. Even if he is roleblocked, he still serves his purpose of preventing mafia from shooting indiscriminately.
Vigilante: Doesn't need to claim until both shots are fired, at which point he can no longer be roleblocked.
Tracker: Only role that needs to fear the roleblocker, but fortunately this role is made much stronger by having a roleblocker in the game(since anyone roleblocked is informed). Tracker can find mafia either by tracking someone to a kill, or by tracking someone to a roleblocker. Very good combo for us, and obviously the tracker isn't going to claim until he is sure someone is scum.
Not to mention that having a roleblocker means any cops and trackers know they can trust their results, and we know we can trust their results once they die.
It's very important that people claim if they are roleblocked, as then our tracker(if we have one) always knows who the roleblocker visited. |
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| Sbrubbles Brazil. May 31 2012 21:37. Posts 2184 | Profile # |
Bluelightz, you have some pretty serious sanity issues.
My key is Sbrubbles. I voted for Framer.
+ Show Spoiler +##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/ZZZZZ IPHWF FSQHH BENQR FAGOR TWQRU VVGEA AKBXJ AHMXV MWCLU FNKAH RSLKI WMGUJ QTOUP CUDJQ CMXJB NWJSP SEMTU DQAGN EEJGB UZZZZ YYYYY ##### End encrypted message
We should tally up our votes. As I said, mafia would have to be very balsy to try to mess up our voting, even without the previous encryption. |
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| prplhz Denmark. May 31 2012 21:51. Posts 3936 | Profile Blog # |
Uh I was pretty sure I wrote this earlier but apparently I didn't.
People who encrypted their votes can "confirm" whatever they voted, people who didn't encrypt their votes can't. So people who encrypted their votes should really wait until everybody else has said what they voted for. If all the encrypters are town and we claim all of our votes first then this whole scheme would go down the drain because the scum will know the final vote tally. It's not like we need this information pronto anyway.
Yea, I know I already wrote my vote but I didn't think of it until after that. |
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| Sbrubbles Brazil. May 31 2012 21:56. Posts 2184 | Profile # |
The mafia already know the voting results, fyi.
On May 29 2012 03:32 kitaman27 wrote:
The game will begin with a 24 hour selection phase. During this phase, the mafia team will select two roles for town. Additionally, the town will privately vote via PM on a single role for the mafia. If there is a tie, a random role from the tied roles will be selected. The selected roles will not be revealed, however the mafia team will be provided with the voting results.
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| prplhz Denmark. May 31 2012 21:59. Posts 3936 | Profile Blog # |
| Oh. Well never mind then. |
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| Radfield Canada. May 31 2012 23:10. Posts 2681 | Profile # |
Aha! Sbrubbles must be mafia!
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| prplhz Denmark. June 01 2012 00:38. Posts 3936 | Profile Blog # |
Well, let me say that I am very disappointed in wherebugsgo so far. It doesn't look like he cares about town winning this game at all.
In his first post he asks host a question, but he never got an answer to that question even though I got an answer to my questions that I posted later. That didn't bother him at all. His participates in the discussion about poisons and his thoughts are alright but it doesn't look like he cares at all what role we pick for mafia. This is bad because if we end up with split wagons then we cannot know what role they have and they'll end up being able to argue for any role. 1-shot claims and has a green check? They can argue that he checked the godfather. Red check? They can argue that he was framed. They'll be able to push a chaotic agenda way easier than if we know what role they got. Scum knows town roles and the only way town can know scum role is if we get majority+3 or a flip but wherebugsgo doesn't seem to care about majority+3. He doesn't seem to mind if the votes are split evenly across roleblocker+framer at all.
He looks like he doesn't care at all about what happens this game and I that's scummy. |
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| Toadesstern Germany. June 01 2012 01:10. Posts 6103 | Profile # |
Well the game only now started and I probably look like I don't care right now as well as I'm not posting at all.
The thing is that we're lacking activity right now, we haven't even got an update from everyone what they've voted and we need that.
What's the point in talking about those things when people aren't even in here telling us what they voted?
I'm a bit happy this game is slow so that I don't have so much to read because I'm also in another game which is quite a lot to read but come on, we really need some updates here.
Frankly so far the discussion was very light. We talked about stuff that is very easy to have different opionions about. As mentioned I said I consider the RB less dangerous than a framer. Other people said they think otherwise and as mentioned, that's stuff you can easily talk about as mafia. We need to get something real to talk about and the votes would be a nice start.
So basicly while I've got some things I like about different people I have to take everything with a grain of salt because everything that was said so far could perfectly be the truth for everyone, no matter of alignment. Maybe mafia lied to try and influence people into giving them what they think is more dangerous but it could just be that mafia told the truth as well making it really hard to judge people based on what happened d0.
Long story short: Get in here. I want those votes. |
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