Fenrax  United States. May 31 2012 06:47. Posts 4976 | Profile Blog # |
From July 2012 on the production and sale of foie gras will be illegal in the state of California. The law was passed in 2004 and was to become effective 8 years later to give producers and restaurants time to adapt to the change.
Foie gras (french for "fat liver") is a food product made of the liver of a duck or goose that has been specially fattened. It is a popular and well-known delicacy in French cuisine. Its flavor is described as rich, buttery, and delicate, unlike that of an ordinary duck or goose liver. France is also by far the largest producer and consumer of foie gras.
The way way the fattening is achieved is often critizied as inhumame and cruel. The fattening is achieved by extremely force-feeding the birds. By stuffing enourmous masses of corn and fat through a funnel multiple times a day for several weeks the liver of the bird swells up to many times its normal size. This procedure has already been forbidden in the Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Italy, Luxembourg, Norway, Poland, Ireland, Sweden, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Argentina, Israel and the United Kingdom though import and sale of the product are still allowed in these countries due to international obligations.
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The California foie gras ban: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_foie_gras_law
Poll: Should production and sale of foie gras be banned?Yes (524) 51% No (503) 49% 1027 total votes Your vote: Should production and sale of foie gras be banned? (Vote): Yes
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| JinDesu United States. May 31 2012 06:50. Posts 3380 | Profile Blog # |
I am not for the ban. I like fois gras, I think the treatment is not that great for the birds, but I do not have much emotions invested into it.
However, I think you got the pro and con videos mixed up. |
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| Bleak Turkey. May 31 2012 06:51. Posts 2637 | Profile Blog # |
| Yes, it is horrible to let living beings subject to basically torture just because someone finds it delicious. |
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| Maand May 31 2012 06:51. Posts 209 | Profile # |
| Honestly this is the first time that I've come across foie gras. Good to know about it and how it's made, it's revolting to say the least. How much pain does this have cause to the geese. I'll be making sure never to eat one of those, never mind how delicious it can be. Last edit: 2012-05-31 06:52:35 |
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| Fenrax United States. May 31 2012 06:52. Posts 4976 | Profile Blog # |
On May 31 2012 06:50 JinDesu wrote:
I think you got the pro and con videos mixed up.
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 KwarK United Kingdom. May 31 2012 06:54. Posts 20501 | Profile Blog # |
| This is a difficult question because there is no consensus on whether humans are morally obligated to provide animals with a basic level of welfare. While I find such treatment abhorrent I am not convinced that I have the right to tell other people what they can and cannot eat, nor how they can treat ducks. Ultimately their rights as humans come before any obligations we have to ducks. Furthermore there is nothing more democratic than a functioning free market, the amount of torture of animals coincides precisely with the demand of people for it. By not buying foie gras you vote with your wallet and less is made. That said, I find nothing wrong with placing social pressure on individuals who buy it to stop, it is at physical intervention that I draw the line. |
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| zezamer Finland. May 31 2012 06:54. Posts 1805 | Profile # |
| That's disgusting. Thank god that kinda cruelty is forbidden in Finland. Last edit: 2012-05-31 06:55:26 |
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| Bout2plucku United States. May 31 2012 06:54. Posts 60 | Profile # |
| im with Mr. Bourdain on this one |
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| LovE- United States. May 31 2012 06:57. Posts 1927 | Profile Blog # |
| I'm all for animal rights, so I definitely think this should be banned. |
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| Eatme Switzerland. May 31 2012 06:59. Posts 3744 | Profile Blog # |
| I have never tried it (probably since it's banned here) and never considered to try it. I have nothing against the ban, but I can sadly assume that some of the food I eat come from badly treated animals. |
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| Morrisson May 31 2012 06:59. Posts 287 | Profile # |
Gooses are evil, mean animals that serve no purpose but to become Foie Gras, which bless there useless life with a purpose: Creating one of the most delicious meal in the world. Why you would want to ban that is beyond me?!
I'll eat 3 for everyone that refuse to eat 1  Last edit: 2012-05-31 06:59:45 |
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| DMKraft May 31 2012 06:59. Posts 450 | Profile # |
I can't imagine it tastes as good as chocolate or beer so I assume it is just one of those wankery things people call a delicacy* and enjoy feeling pretentious while they eat it.
* Delicacy is defined as something that doesn't taste good but you eat to feel superior.Last edit: 2012-05-31 07:00:02 |
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| corumjhaelen France. May 31 2012 07:00. Posts 4783 | Profile Blog # |
On May 31 2012 06:59 DMKraft wrote:
I can't imagine it tastes as good as chocolate or beer so I assume it is just one of those wankery things people call a delicacy* and enjoy feeling pretentious while they eat it.
* Delicacy is defined as something that doesn't taste good but you eat to feel superior.
It's incredibly good. |
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| forgottendreams United States. May 31 2012 07:03. Posts 1748 | Profile # |
The bill doesn't explicitly ban foie gras outright but the practice of force feeding itself. However apparently since very few foie gras producers don't use the force feeding method it is pretty safe to assume most of the foie gras producers around would be effected. I was being critical of your statement "sale of foie gras will be illegal"
All that being said I have no problems with the ban of force feeding ducks so some foodie can eat a highly fatty liver. |
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| FabledIntegral United States. May 31 2012 07:03. Posts 8363 | Profile Blog # |
On May 31 2012 06:54 KwarK wrote:
This is a difficult question because there is no consensus on whether humans are morally obligated to provide animals with a basic level of welfare. While I find such treatment abhorrent I am not convinced that I have the right to tell other people what they can and cannot eat, nor how they can treat ducks. Ultimately their rights as humans come before any obligations we have to ducks. Furthermore there is nothing more democratic than a functioning free market, the amount of torture of animals coincides precisely with the demand of people for it. By not buying foie gras you vote with your wallet and less is made. That said, I find nothing wrong with placing social pressure on individuals who buy it to stop, it is at physical intervention that I draw the line.
Hmm... I'd disagree with the notion that humans who domesticate animals aren't morally obligated to provide animals with a basic level of welfare. If not, do I do nothing wrong if I starve or beat my dog (or duck?).
I'm not convinced either about your voting with your wallet argument. There are many things that would be in demand, but aren't because of laws. I'd say the physical intervention is what's needed, but that's just me I guess (I realize that wasn't the best argument but I think I'm appealing too much to my own emotion to word it correctly).
On May 31 2012 06:59 DMKraft wrote:
* Delicacy is defined as something that doesn't taste good but you eat to feel superior.
No it's not? It's not even connotatively used in that regard.Last edit: 2012-05-31 07:05:52 |
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| brokor Greece. May 31 2012 07:03. Posts 220 | Profile # |
foie gras is delicious. i only get to eat it like 2-3 times a year but when the restaurant gets it right it is awesome. i go every year to a small(but highly expensive :/) french restaurant in frankfurt and they serve the best foie gras i have ever tasted.
i agree it is animal cruelty but i mean c'mon if we were to satisfy the hippies on every count of animal cruelty we would be starving or worse eat that disgusting vegan stuff.
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| kamikami France. May 31 2012 07:05. Posts 1057 | Profile # |
I think this should be banned because the fois gras tastes terrible and I cannot eat it and everyone tells me that it is delicious which is extremely ridiculous.
I don't care about the stupid birds, they are birds after all. But this food should be banned because it tastes terrible and is overated.
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| corumjhaelen France. May 31 2012 07:06. Posts 4783 | Profile Blog # |
On May 31 2012 07:05 kamikami wrote:
I think this should be banned because the fois gras tastes terrible and I cannot eat it and everyone tells me that it is delicious which is extremely ridiculous.
I don't care about the birds, they are birds after all. But this food should be banned because it tastes terrible and is overated.
I hate red meat (true), should I demand a ban on beef because I think it's overrated ? Don't be ridiculous... |
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 Nancial May 31 2012 07:07. Posts 174 | Profile # |
woooooow seriously ?
eliminate crime and war first, then think of such stupid stuff.
ofc cruelty to animals is kinda cool and satanic and stuff. i approve of it ;o |
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