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 Alaino   United States. May 31 2012 08:07. Posts 11
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I want to build a computer to run SC2 and Diablo 3 at its highest settings. This is what I came up with

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130652

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131736

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103961

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820103002

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827100058

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153


I am wondering if this build is any good? If you know of anything I should switch please give me a link. Also I have no idea regarding what power supply to use. Please help me so I can have the best possible gaming desktop under $1,000 (including software)
Last edit: 2012-05-31 08:42:21
What???
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  Josh_rakoons   United Kingdom. May 31 2012 08:19. Posts 1157Profile # 
Could you set out the links any worse?
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 Alaino   United States. May 31 2012 08:19. Posts 11
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How do I fix them?
What???
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  Josh_rakoons   United Kingdom. May 31 2012 08:39. Posts 1157Profile # 
Using the "enter" button.
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 bigbry1995   May 31 2012 09:12. Posts 7
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Wouldnt reccomend that proccesor/mobo. Go with Intel.
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 iKill[ShocK]   Vietnam. May 31 2012 10:17. Posts 1204
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Intel 2500k/3570k CPU + P67/z68/P77 motherboard'
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230
8gb ddr3-1333 ram, cheapest possible.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226249
Corsair PSU CX430 V2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026
GTX 460 > 550ti
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130749
i would see improvements with those component choices, but you should fill out the OP in the Computer building resource thread.
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit" <3 Kim Taeyeon
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 Alaino   United States. May 31 2012 10:52. Posts 11
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Can you please explain why this is better? Thank you for posting.
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 Rollin   Australia. May 31 2012 11:00. Posts 1149
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This is better because currently similar price bracketed intel processors do approximately 1.5x as many instructions per clock as amd's processors in most applications, and the "8 core" crap you hear is really just funky hyperthreading.

This means a 3.0gHz bulldozer is equivalent to ~4.5gHz sandy bridge for games, and for heavily threaded work, 2500k<=8150fx<<2600k. Hence there really is no reason to recommend a bulldozer, especially considering they aren't even competitively priced if you include the difference in motherboard costs. Also, bulldozers take a shitton more power than sandy/ivy bridge.
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears.
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 iKill[ShocK]   Vietnam. May 31 2012 11:05. Posts 1204
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CPU 2500k vs FX-8150
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=434

GTX 460 vs GTX 550 ti
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-550-ti-gf116-radeon-hd-5770,2892-5.html
I know some people think toms isnt reliable but im too lazy to find better review.

Why ddr-1333 ram instead of 1600/1866. You need 8gb to play modern games.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3_7.html#sect0

PSU is just PSU.
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit" <3 Kim Taeyeon
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 jacosajh   May 31 2012 11:08. Posts 2522
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That CPU (and anything AMD right now) is crap.

You can either get the i5 2500k suggested, or some other Intel. You can even get an Intel G850 + ~$55 H61 motherboard for around ~$150 when all is said and done, that will be better (and cheaper than just the CPU) than the one you posted.

That motherboard you posted is 99.9999% more than you would need.

I also agree with getting a GTX 460 (or an HD 6850) over the GTX 550 Ti.

All that being said, a Corsair CX430 V2 will be sufficient for most single-GPU + Intel CPU builds.

TL:DR

CPU (if you want dual-core)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116397

CPU (if you want quad-core)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115089

Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138339

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127646

Keeping the HDD, Case, RAM (although I think AMD branded RAM is HILAROUS) and Optical drive you had is fine

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 Alaino   United States. May 31 2012 11:38. Posts 11
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THANK YOU ALL! I have a few more questions (this is my first build). Like which one is better? Accounting performance per dollar.

Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138339

CPU (if you want quad-core)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115089

Vs

Intel 2500k/3570k CPU + P67/z68/P77 motherboard'

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Also should I go for 8 GB or 16 GB of ram?
As of now I am leaning towards this ram sticks

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226249
What???
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 iKill[ShocK]   Vietnam. May 31 2012 12:19. Posts 1204
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2500k is unlocked and overclockable. The other one is not unlocked and would save you some money with the motherboard and CPU.
8gb of ram should be all you need. 16gb is what you'd call overkill
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit" <3 Kim Taeyeon
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 Alaino   United States. May 31 2012 12:28. Posts 11
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iKill thanks a lot for your help. What does unlocked mean. how does it help? Do you know what I would need to overclock the 2500k? Should I get a fan for the CPU, if so which one do you recommend?
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 iTzSnypah   United States. May 31 2012 12:34. Posts 1220
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This is about the best you'll do on newegg.

Intel Core i5-3570k & Rosewill Capstone 450w 80+gold $287.99 with promo code PSUMAY10 ends 6/10 $15 promotional gift card w/purchase, ends 6/4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.920359

Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H ATX Motherboard & Cooler Master Hyper 212+ $139.98 ($129.98AMIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.918365

Sapphire HD6870 & Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 1.5v $199.98 ($189.98AMIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.927540

Western Digitial Caviar Blue 500GB & DVD Burner $78.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936994

Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Total: $766.92 ($731.92AMIR and gift card)
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
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 iKill[ShocK]   Vietnam. May 31 2012 13:01. Posts 1204
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On May 31 2012 12:28 Alaino wrote:
iKill thanks a lot for your help. What does unlocked mean. how does it help? Do you know what I would need to overclock the 2500k? Should I get a fan for the CPU, if so which one do you recommend?


Unlocked multiplier means overclockable. You need a P67/P77 chipset motherboard to overclock the 2500k/3570k, you also need an aftermarket heatsink, which i would recommend a Coolermaster Hyper 212+. You can find all of this in the build posted by iTzSnypah, well done by him.
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit" <3 Kim Taeyeon
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 sGSuperSlinkY   United States. May 31 2012 13:34. Posts 71
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yea the AMD 8 core is nice but an i7 will provide a much better experience and really worth the extra money
member of team iP (impressive Play)
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 dhe95   United States. May 31 2012 13:41. Posts 1211
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On May 31 2012 13:34 sGSuperSlinkY wrote:
yea the AMD 8 core is nice but an i7 will provide a much better experience and really worth the extra money

not worth the money over an i5 when he wants to play sc2 and diablo 3
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 LJ   May 31 2012 19:14. Posts 203
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Bulldozer is worse than intel celeron for gaming and that is NOT a joke. Seriously though you could max out those two games with any recent CPU
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 jacosajh   May 31 2012 22:44. Posts 2522
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On May 31 2012 11:38 Alaino wrote:
THANK YOU ALL! I have a few more questions (this is my first build). Like which one is better? Accounting performance per dollar.

Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138339

CPU (if you want quad-core)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115089

Vs

Intel 2500k/3570k CPU + P67/z68/P77 motherboard'

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Also should I go for 8 GB or 16 GB of ram?
As of now I am leaning towards this ram sticks

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226249


If you don't even know what overclocking is, and all you want to do is play SC2 and D3, I would just get a locked CPU. You'll save like ~$120 or more. And by the time you actually get around to overclocking it (and learning how to do it properly), there will be better stuff out. Overclocking is nice and all; but really, even with Sandy Bridge, it takes quite a bit of effort and patience. Unless you don't care about being efficient.
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  CTStalker   Canada. May 31 2012 23:55. Posts 9664Profile Blog # 
Use this thread please: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137554
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
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