| TBone- May 31 2012 08:10. Posts 1760 | Profile Blog # |
The new parternship between MLG and kespa has some serious ramifications. Kespa controls their players and where they go. MLG made a partership and now has access to those players while other leagues do not. This can spawn a series of shady business practices. Here are some scenarios of how this can go wrong.
Lets say Dreamhack wants access to the Kespa players for a tournament. Dreamhack has to get the green light from MLG and Kespa. If one says no, the players don't go. MLG and Kespa currently has all the leverage. So lets say to counteract this, Dreamhack contracts EG to go to all their events and controls where they go(hypothetically of course). And then if negotiations fail between Dreamhack and MLG, EG can't go to MLG and Kespa players can't go to Dreamhack.
Another example is if NASL wanted access to Kespa players but MLG demands money from NASL as sort of an entrance fee. They can now do that.
Destiny blogged on this as well and presented another very realistic outcome of this.
Lucifron had a very impressive showing recently, taking out Thorzain 4-0 in the SCAN invitational. A lot of people are suddenly turning their eyes to a player they’d never noticed before, and Mouz had even tweeted that they were interested in picking him up. What if Mouz wanted to easily secure more funding for their team to send their players to events, or just to pay their players a higher salary in general? With the precedent possibly already established by Kespa-MLG, there would be nothing keeping Mouz from signing Lucifron, and then approaching another major tournament (IPL or NASL) in the hopes of signing another exclusive agreement. The team has the incentive of earning more cash for doing nothing while the tournament secures “fan-favorite” and entertaining players, ensuring their survival in the tournament world. Is this at all possible, or does it seem too slippery slope? I’m not entirely sure, to be honest, but I don’t see anything preventing these kinds of deals from happening. In fact, if Kespa-MLG announces that their players will not be competing in any other tournaments, I would expect other tournaments to be contracting teams in fear of losing those potential players showing up at their tournaments.
In short, there is a lot of potential for some shady business practices with this exclusivity in which it could force other leagues to do so as well. Most of all this will hurt the players the most, as they may be excluded from going to different tournaments. And I'm not saying that this will happen, but the potential for it and motivation for it is there. I'd also recommend reading Destiny's blog on this.
MLG/kespa parter deal source http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=336693
Destiny's blog http://www.destinysc2.com/why-the-mlg-kespa-partnership-is-bad-for-spectators-teams-players-and-tournaments/
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| NoctemSC United States. May 31 2012 08:19. Posts 757 | Profile Blog # |
To demand Fees from other Leagues is absurd and career suicide in my mind.
It looks bad on the company and many fans will become angry. You make enemies on both fronts.
I don't see this as being a very good business decision from the standpoint of MLG. |
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| Wroshe Netherlands. May 31 2012 08:23. Posts 1023 | Profile # |
Fully agree with the OP.
Even though the MLG/Kespa deal looks amazing at first sight there are some very very bad things that can happen as a result of this. Whether it turns out to go wrong depends on the further actions from MLG and Kespa.
We can't really say anything but just wait on what is going to happen; although I do want to add that MLG and Kespa do not have the best record when it comes to the interest of anything besides their own wallet. |
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| NOOBALOPSE Canada. May 31 2012 08:24. Posts 802 | Profile # |
I agree with this post 100%
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| malaan May 31 2012 08:25. Posts 344 | Profile # |
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| dylan522p United States. May 31 2012 08:28. Posts 38 | Profile # |
On May 31 2012 08:25 malaan wrote:
Sundance DiGiovanni is not an idiot. Don't worry about it.
Tell that to the Halo E-sports scene he abused.
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| Aeroplaneoverthesea United Kingdom. May 31 2012 08:31. Posts 1735 | Profile # |
On May 31 2012 08:28 dylan522p wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 08:25 malaan wrote:
Sundance DiGiovanni is not an idiot. Don't worry about it.
Tell that to the Halo E-sports scene he abused.
Abused? Halo esports wouldn't even exist without MLG. |
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| zaii Guam. May 31 2012 08:32. Posts 2425 | Profile # |
On May 31 2012 08:28 dylan522p wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 08:25 malaan wrote:
Sundance DiGiovanni is not an idiot. Don't worry about it.
Tell that to the Halo E-sports scene he abused.
That scene flourished with MLG till Bungie decided to give up on the game when they made Reach.Last edit: 2012-05-31 08:36:38 |
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| GeedrAhsc United States. May 31 2012 08:33. Posts 93 | Profile # |
On May 31 2012 08:23 Wroshe wrote:
We can't really say anything but just wait on what is going to happen; although I do want to add that MLG and Kespa do not have the best record when it comes to the interest of anything besides their own wallet.
Thiiiis. Great that they wanna produce some solid content for us nerds, but I hope they go about it in a manner that doesn't further ostracize portions of the community so that they can make some extra money. |
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| algorithm0r Canada. May 31 2012 08:35. Posts 479 | Profile # |
On May 31 2012 08:25 malaan wrote:
Sundance DiGiovanni is not an idiot. Don't worry about it.
I'm not sure of this. He is most interested in his own money... less so in growing a competitive scene of tournaments. He makes partnerships so that he can establish himself and MLG as THE Tournament and I'm not convince he would not make exclusive deals to ensure MLG stays on top. |
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| xavra41 United States. May 31 2012 08:35. Posts 220 | Profile # |
| And what is wrong with exclusivity? If you want a big mac you have to go to McDonalds. Your favorite popular sports drink might be old at most grocery stores, but not at yours. If NASL gets free access to kespa players then there isn't any point in the kespa-mlg deal. Everyone, including me, is looking forward to seeing them at the mlg tournament you should be happy. |
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| zaii Guam. May 31 2012 08:37. Posts 2425 | Profile # |
On May 31 2012 08:35 algorithm0r wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 08:25 malaan wrote:
Sundance DiGiovanni is not an idiot. Don't worry about it.
I'm not sure of this. He is most interested in his own money... less so in growing a competitive scene of tournaments. He makes partnerships so that he can establish himself and MLG as THE Tournament and I'm not convince he would not make exclusive deals to ensure MLG stays on top.
He would be one hell of an idiot CEO, If he didn't do that. |
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| Kohonski United States. May 31 2012 08:39. Posts 136 | Profile Blog # |
On May 31 2012 08:35 algorithm0r wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 08:25 malaan wrote:
Sundance DiGiovanni is not an idiot. Don't worry about it.
I'm not sure of this. He is most interested in his own money... less so in growing a competitive scene of tournaments. He makes partnerships so that he can establish himself and MLG as THE Tournament and I'm not convince he would not make exclusive deals to ensure MLG stays on top.
This^ I mean it's good to see a partnership, but an exclusitivity deal is over the top and it doesn't help the SC2 scene. |
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 Benjamin99 May 31 2012 08:39. Posts 4174 | Profile # |
On May 31 2012 08:31 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 08:28 dylan522p wrote:
On May 31 2012 08:25 malaan wrote:
Sundance DiGiovanni is not an idiot. Don't worry about it.
Tell that to the Halo E-sports scene he abused.
Abused? Halo esports wouldn't even exist without MLG.
Once again Aeroplaneoverthesea you post are lacking facts and are clueless as allways. Seriously, you got no clue what you a talking about its so impressive that anyone can be so wrong in so many different subjects!.
The Halo scene was flourishing until MLG decided to control the players. And that basically killed the scene. |
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| TBone- May 31 2012 08:39. Posts 1760 | Profile Blog # |
On May 31 2012 08:35 xavra41 wrote:
And what is wrong with exclusivity? If you want a big mac you have to go to McDonalds. Your favorite popular sports drink might be old at most grocery stores, but not at yours. If NASL gets free access to kespa players then there isn't any point in the kespa-mlg deal. Everyone, including me, is looking forward to seeing them at the mlg tournament you should be happy.
Of course I'm looking forward to the Kespa players at mlg, but as I said in the op, it has the potential to be very harsh to the point where its hurting more than its helping. |
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| rotegirte Germany. May 31 2012 08:40. Posts 1884 | Profile # |
On May 31 2012 08:35 xavra41 wrote:
And what is wrong with exclusivity? If you want a big mac you have to go to McDonalds. Your favorite popular sports drink might be old at most grocery stores, but not at yours. If NASL gets free access to kespa players then there isn't any point in the kespa-mlg deal. Everyone, including me, is looking forward to seeing them at the mlg tournament you should be happy.
And still the majority of the world's markets is being regulated. |
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| rotegirte Germany. May 31 2012 08:41. Posts 1884 | Profile # |
On May 31 2012 08:37 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 08:35 algorithm0r wrote:
On May 31 2012 08:25 malaan wrote:
Sundance DiGiovanni is not an idiot. Don't worry about it.
I'm not sure of this. He is most interested in his own money... less so in growing a competitive scene of tournaments. He makes partnerships so that he can establish himself and MLG as THE Tournament and I'm not convince he would not make exclusive deals to ensure MLG stays on top.
He would be one hell of an idiot CEO, If he didn't do that.
Of course. And that is why there are competitive and anti-trust laws in every other industry to put boundaries to companies. |
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| brokenLoL United Kingdom. May 31 2012 08:44. Posts 418 | Profile # |
| Knowing MLG, they'll probably charge IPL, GSL, NASL etc some sort of absurd fee to borrow players. I bet MLG would charge like $10,000 per night for Flash. |
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| Diizzy United States. May 31 2012 08:44. Posts 744 | Profile # |
| im surprise kespa even made a deal with a differnet league. these guys been very exclusive. just be happy we are seeing them in foreigner events. i doubt they will only just try to reach out to just mlg. |
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| Champloo Germany. May 31 2012 08:45. Posts 1641 | Profile # |
I don't see a problem?
Dreamhack does not want "access to the koreans". Dreamhack doesn't want access to any players, it's an open tournament and anyone who wants to participate in it can go and sign up. And that's the way it should be. Tournaments put up a prizepool and teams send their players to play in it.
MLG already has the problem of having too many tournaments with almost the same player lineup everytime, because they pay the trips for these players.Last edit: 2012-05-31 08:45:58 |
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