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| ELYSiUMlol United States. May 31 2012 13:53. Posts 88 | Profile # |
Replay: http://drop.sc/189028
Hi TL. I'm kind of confused as to how Protoss can actually die in midgame. Once they build more than 10 units out of an FFE I feel like it snowballs until forcefields prevent them from being attacked, and then they have their robo tech out and their army feels unkillable. God forbid they actually have more than 3 immortals as well, because then roaches are actually useless and get 3 shot.
In this replay, I open standard gasless, etc. He did a void ray opener which I was ready for, and then sat behind his wall with forcefields and couldn't be attacked. Eventually he moved out to take a third, but by then his army was too large/powerful to be attacked and he rolled over my attack attempt and subsequently a-moved to victory. I'm honestly baffled and Protoss is basically the only reason that I lose anymore, and it's reaching the point that I get tilted incredibly fast and can't play after a single loss to a Protoss
I'm not sure if I could have had a different gameplan that game, although I guess faster corruptors might have done something, but honestly, I felt so incredibly gas starved that game and I'm not sure if that would even be a possibility.
edit: just realized I forgot the tag in the title ._. sorry mods
User was warned for balance whineLast edit: 2012-05-31 15:28:07 |
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| bgalang92 United States. May 31 2012 14:32. Posts 155 | Profile # |
On May 31 2012 13:53 ELYSiUMlol wrote:Replay: http://drop.sc/189028Hi TL. I'm kind of confused as to how Protoss can actually die in midgame. Once they build more than 10 units out of an FFE I feel like it snowballs until forcefields prevent them from being attacked, and then they have their robo tech out and their army feels unkillable. God forbid they actually have more than 3 immortals as well, because then roaches are actually useless and get 3 shot.
If you really feel this way, I suggest you try playing Protoss. It's just as difficult from the other side. Despite this comment, I chose to watch your replay. At your level (which I'm surprised it is as high as it is), balance should be the least of your concerns.
Anyway, you actually played very well until your engagement at his natural. As a Protoss, I saw the game as an easy win for you. Why did you engage at the natural to begin with? His void rays have done absolutely no damage. He doesn't have a third, and you're on three bases. Immortal and Collossus all ins are no longer a possibility with the void rays out, and if they do come they will be very late. Rather than wait for him to come out into the open and crush him, you instead decide to force your maxed roach army into a choke where his immortals, void rays, and collosus wrecked your army. At that point you've lost twice as much as him, as well as suiciding your entire army while he retained most of his. You've thrown away all of your advantage, and given him map control, army size, and the tech advantage. Hell, with the third base I'd say he's economically ahead of you too. If you simply sat back, took gas, maxed out and either set up a flank with some infestors if he goes all in or wait til he sets up a third then multiprong attack him you win. You could've transitioned to mutas and locked him in his base forever. Instead, you attack him in the ONE situation where he can win. That's not imbalanced, that's just common sense.
The fact that you immaturely called out "ROFL" and what not was ridiculous. You were the one that messed up, don't blame your own poor decision making on a player that literally did nothing imbalanced to win the game. In fact, he did NOTHING to win the game. You let him win. Take accountability for your own actions. Last edit: 2012-05-31 14:34:12 |
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| ELYSiUMlol United States. May 31 2012 14:37. Posts 88 | Profile # |
| I don't think my army would have won in either situation. He had a deathball of sentry colossus and a boatload of stalkers, I don't think roach ling infestor would have any chance of killing that. Either I'm looking at this incorrectly or I've lost so many ZvP's that I've begun to perceive Protoss armies as unkillable, but my army died instantly and then he rolled through like 4 more remaxes. |
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| ELYSiUMlol United States. May 31 2012 15:27. Posts 88 | Profile # |
| edit: nvm Last edit: 2012-05-31 15:27:44 |
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