| chaoser United States. June 01 2012 22:00. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # |
| What's the wincon for the crazed black fiend? |
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| chaoser United States. June 02 2012 03:57. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # |
| actually, i'mma wait till Ace updates his game Last edit: 2012-06-02 04:34:40 |
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| chaoser United States. June 03 2012 00:13. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # | |
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| chaoser United States. June 03 2012 05:04. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # | |
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| chaoser United States. June 05 2012 00:19. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # |
On June 04 2012 19:31 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 04 2012 17:16 EchelonTee wrote:
On June 03 2012 05:14 gonzaw wrote:
lol
It seems impossible to win for the Crazy Fiend. He can only lose by being lynched, but damn with only 1 bullet it makes it quite hard for him.
Also, if scum ever shoot him, they can be dicks and out him or something; like right before one of those scum get lynched, they say "Hey! I'm scum, we shot [guy] and he didn't die, he's SK please kill him for us" or something. That would be a downer for the poor guy
That's pretty poor ettiquete, I would say, and isn't optimal play either.. Scum COULD do that, but realistically, the SK wants the scum to live so that they will shoot up town for them. Therefore, scum benefit from having SK around.
In that case it helped both town and mafia though. Crazed Fiend is pretty much harmless to both since it only has one shot. |
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| chaoser United States. June 05 2012 06:33. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # |
On June 05 2012 03:05 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 04 2012 17:16 EchelonTee wrote:
On June 03 2012 05:14 gonzaw wrote:
lol
It seems impossible to win for the Crazy Fiend. He can only lose by being lynched, but damn with only 1 bullet it makes it quite hard for him.
Also, if scum ever shoot him, they can be dicks and out him or something; like right before one of those scum get lynched, they say "Hey! I'm scum, we shot [guy] and he didn't die, he's SK please kill him for us" or something. That would be a downer for the poor guy
That's pretty poor ettiquete, I would say, and isn't optimal play either.. Scum COULD do that, but realistically, the SK wants the scum to live so that they will shoot up town for them. Therefore, scum benefit from having SK around.
No, if it's 4-2-1 or something like that then it's kind of optimal for them to do that (in which case the scum getting lynched would force a 2-1 LYLO instead of a 2-1-1 or something and having the SK around)
how can town be sure the person mafia points at is actually the fiend? |
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| chaoser United States. June 07 2012 04:39. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # |
| I'm talking like Day 2 gonzaw, also in a situation where town doesn't know who the last scum is and it's 1-1-1, it's better to not tell town who the real SK is if town is already sure who the last mafia is. |
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| chaoser United States. June 10 2012 03:03. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # | |
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| chaoser United States. June 10 2012 08:19. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # |
| I'm a townie. Let's win this. |
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| chaoser United States. June 10 2012 08:44. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # | |
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| chaoser United States. June 10 2012 08:57. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # |
On June 10 2012 08:49 Qatol wrote:
I'm confused. Since when am I a girl? This is news to me, and I don't think dreamflower is going to like it much!
the more correct term is "loli" |
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| chaoser United States. June 10 2012 09:06. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # |
On June 10 2012 09:00 Radfield wrote:Can you hit me with the actual reasoning behind an RNG lynch. I honestly don't understand the benefit.
Gotta think deeper about it yo |
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| chaoser United States. June 10 2012 09:10. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # |
![[image loading]](http://i49.tinypic.com/14xfjew.png)
Let's go yo.
##vote: Ace |
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| chaoser United States. June 10 2012 09:36. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # |
On June 10 2012 09:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Haha, was that your first try, or do you just want to kill Ace? I know someone you might like to get to know better, I think you share similar interests. Radfield meet Chaoser. Chaoser meet Radfield. It's a perfect match!
Nah, Radfield doesn't want to RNG; he thinks it has no benefit. So I'm not a perfect match with him. Ace does want to RNG though so I'm possibly a perfect match with him. Or at least a better match than with Radfield.
It just so happened that the RNG picked my perfect match. =[. What's done is done yo. |
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| chaoser United States. June 11 2012 00:05. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # |
| Backing away from RNG, Ace? I didn't realize there were DIFFERENT ways to RNG. Pray tell what the other ways are aside from RNGing using a, well, random number generator. |
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| chaoser United States. June 11 2012 00:08. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # |
On June 10 2012 20:18 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 09:44 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Isn't the idea behind RNG that we have nothing to talk about, so it provides a talking point, and that it makes mafia sweat, because they have no control over it, so if you decide to lynch a scum they'll freak out and the reaction will be enough to lynch them anyways?
If that's truly the only reasoning behind a no-lynch then it's an endeavor that can be accomplished better via other means. Lynching someone based on meta reasoning(Ace is good as scum, Player X is detrimental to town) serves the same purpose(discussion), yet actually has some grounding, and actually has a tangible benefit to town. I don't think RNG really promotes discussion very well, as it leaves nothing to discuss. "Well, the RNG picked 3, lets all vote ace or not" *shrug*. Lynching Ace because he is a solid scum player adept at manipulation and able to control a game, while simultaneously being a semi-disruptive presence as a townie and a non-team player actually gives us something to discuss. It's superior in every way. Fact is I don't think anyone in this game takes an RNG vote remotely serious, so it fails in it's goal to generate a reaction from scum. Whereas seriously voting ace with reasoning forces scum to take a side, and actually puts pressure on Ace.
Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 15:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh shewt, Radfield thought of it. LOL. Ace just concurred.
I think you're missing the context... 
Who said no one is seriously taking an RNG vote? I'm sure everyone is. And so it holds weight see and would benefit town. |
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| chaoser United States. June 11 2012 05:28. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # |
| I'm ok with palmar's plan but we should do it before the end of the first 24 hours aka soon. Out in the City today so posting from my iPhone but I'll be back home at 9 ish probably. |
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| chaoser United States. June 11 2012 09:29. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # |
On June 11 2012 07:44 Mr. Wiggles wrote:I actually want Chaoser to answer my question from earlier, since he sort of side-stepped it:
Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 09:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On June 10 2012 09:10 chaoser wrote:Let's go yo. ##vote: Ace
Haha, was that your first try, or do you just want to kill Ace? I know someone you might like to get to know better, I think you share similar interests. Radfield meet Chaoser. Chaoser meet Radfield. It's a perfect match!
There's no assurance you actually RNG'ed that, so I'm wondering why you want to kill Ace. Do you actually support an Ace lynch? Your next post looks weird too, asking if Ace is backing off RNG when he said you're jumping the gun and that your RNG isn't valid. False pressure, and all that.
Actually that screenshot WAS my very first try though I would have probably rerolled till 3 (Ace) showed up had it not shown up at first. I obviously don't think day one lynch should be based on RNG but I do think RNG as a starter can act very prominently as a very strong type of pressure. Usually people start off the game with a "Blank is mafia, lynch him ##vote" and then they work off that (I do this often) but recently it hasn't been working so well. RNG on the other hand, especially if it seems like many townies are behind it, allows for an opening move that puts an extreme amount of pressure on the person who was "RNG"-ed. Obviously they all kind of are in the know that the RNG target is not the final lynch but that they make it SEEM like that person is. This allows for massive pressure.
I picked Ace for this move for two reasons. One is because he's Ace. He has the potential to be extremely devastating as mafia and so I wanted to start the game off as strongly as possible against him to figure him out. And two is because he himself supported the concept of RNG and so for him to be the "RNG" target would put him in a position where he can't just back off of it. This was why I posted that second post about him backing off. My responses to Radfield are all responses to try to get him to understand what I was trying to do with the fake RNG policy -_- and so I had to be ambiguous cause obviously if mafia knows it's fake then it doesn't work. Either way I tried, it didn't work as well as I hoped since not enough people went along with it, and Ace is just deflecting all pressure.
I actually wasn't even sure how RNGs really worked which is why I asked Radfield.
Either way, I'm interested in something else now.
[QUOTE]On June 11 2012 09:10 gonzaw wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 11 2012 08:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh shit he voted for me?
Vanilla Townie
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Yes, I'm afraid my lack of stance on whether RNG is beneficial for town is NOT indicative of my alignment. The truth is, I can see both sides of the argument, so I'm fine with whatever. I suggest you don't lynch me because of that.
I've got opinions. I intend to share them with the class.[/QUOTE]
Wtf? Scumslip much?
My role is Vanilla Towny, so that means you just fake-claimed
##Vote: VisceraEyes
Gonzaw, what do you mean? are you for serious?
at the same time:
[QUOTE]On June 11 2012 09:13 GreYMisT wrote:
Still gathering my thoughts, But I do need to see more out of Brown Bear as well as MZ in addition to my Wiggles suspicion
Also I hope that is not your complete reasoning for voting VE, haha.
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The fact that you show no suspicion to the usage of terms along with the rest of your posting makes me extremely suspicious of you.
##vote: greymist |
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| chaoser United States. June 11 2012 09:30. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # |
| er, iGrok, can I edit my previous post to make it correct formatting? |
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| chaoser United States. June 11 2012 09:40. Posts 5538 | Profile Blog # |
On June 11 2012 09:36 gonzaw wrote:Maybe it's because of the whole "you can't write sarcasm on the internet", but I thought the ">_>" thingy explained it all >_> (see? like that  )
So what do you think of VE's claim? |
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