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Live Report OP Layout Discussion

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 opterown  *   Australia. June 03 2012 21:43. Posts 27566
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So I've had a bit of discussion lately about the optimum layouts for Live Report OPs, and was wondering if we had a bit of consensus about what might be the best OP for your viewership!

Seeker and I have had a bit of discussion on what works best.

Recent examples of my layout:
Code S: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=337240
GSTL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=341981
Code A: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=335933

Recent examples of Seeker's layout:
Code S: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334354
GSTL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340836
Code A: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333486

There's also a lot of different OP styles in the BW forums:
OSL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340837
SPL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=341916

So there's not that much different between them at the core. I like to prioritise what I view are important links at the top (e.g. stream link, TL preview, Liquipedia links, etc) and overall a clean layout (e.g. my banners are consistent). Those are things which I personally look for and consider important. I can't really speak for Seeker, but I'm sure he'll let us know why he has his OP as it is

Just seeing if you guys had feedback on what you like to see in OPs and what might be the best style of OPs to use! We decided to get a thread going (no drama!!) to work out what's best :D Or the good bits of each, so we can combine it.

Or, if you couldn't care less about OP style, that works too!
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  Seeker  *   Korea (South). June 03 2012 21:47. Posts 17288Profile Blog # 
Poll: Should opterown and I put on a show match?

Yes (9)
 
75%

No (3)
 
25%

12 total votes

Your vote: Should opterown and I put on a show match?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Just wanted to emphasize a couple of things:

opterown and I have mutual respect for each other and have discussed this with each other. It was both our idea to have this kind of thread opened up. We really want your honest feedback. Please tell us what are my strong points. What are opterown's strong points? What are other peoples' OP strong points?

Have fun with this guys. You can be brutally honest and not suffer any consequences
Last edit: 2012-06-04 15:59:21
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 StarVe   Germany. June 03 2012 21:50. Posts 10084
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I like opterowns Code A thread example best.

Simple, nothing fancy, throw a good banner on top and it's perfect.
 
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 KristofferAG   Norway. June 03 2012 21:54. Posts 9807
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Well, I like opterown's because of the simplicity of it, so easy to navigate and quickly get your information, and it looks rather nice with the banners.
SeeKeR has somewhat more information in his LR OPs, it seems to me. be it with fun little polls, short writeups on players, recommendations and so on.

I guess what I'm saying is I like having a bit of variety in my LRs, so it's nice to have more than a single person doing them, and I like that they each have their own style. While I leech off them :>

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 Wroshe   Netherlands. June 03 2012 21:55. Posts 1019
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Feel that opterown's work is less cluttered with fancy stuff and therefore better. You have to be careful though that you don't use spoiler tags at literally every possible occasion as it is quite easy to afterwards show too little information.

I would for instance have shown the first lineup at the GSTL match.
 
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 opterown  *   Australia. June 03 2012 21:57. Posts 27566
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On June 03 2012 21:55 Wroshe wrote:
I would for instance have shown the first lineup at the GSTL match.

It's not available for some reason, unless it's on some korean site somewhere? they had starters up for previous seasons, but I can't find them for this season.
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 Xcobidoo   Sweden. June 03 2012 21:58. Posts 1871
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I don't mind which of those it is, both look clean and hype. Must say that I enjoy not having one set person/blueprint for how every LR should look and a bit of variation is always a good thing
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 Serimek   France. June 03 2012 21:59. Posts 672
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I agree with what is said above.

For me, best quality to seek for live report OP is simplicity (both aesthetically and in term of efficiency), and you both achieve to reach that to be honest, but opterowns' one seem to me even clearer and practical. Anyway, keep on the good work both of you.
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  Seeker  *   Korea (South). June 03 2012 22:01. Posts 17288Profile Blog # 

On June 03 2012 21:55 Wroshe wrote:
Feel that opterown's work is less cluttered with fancy stuff and therefore better. You have to be careful though that you don't use spoiler tags at literally every possible occasion as it is quite easy to afterwards show too little information.

I would for instance have shown the first lineup at the GSTL match.

I did show the first lineup in my GSTL thread
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 Ubenn   Canada. June 03 2012 22:02. Posts 113
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On June 03 2012 21:50 StarVe wrote:
I like opterowns Code A thread example best.

Simple, nothing fancy, throw a good banner on top and it's perfect.

Simple. Clean. Perfect.
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  ThePlayer33   Australia. June 03 2012 22:07. Posts 2377Profile # 
i like seeker's subheadings better cos it stands out better, other than that, i am fine with both
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 KristofferAG   Norway. June 03 2012 22:08. Posts 9807
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Yeah it would be nice if you could add the two initial players to the OP, under the line-up. Talking to opterown here. I'm aware that it's not really possible to know who they are till they go into their booths, but once they do they could be added.
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 opterown  *   Australia. June 03 2012 22:09. Posts 27566
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On June 03 2012 22:08 KristofferAG wrote:
Yeah it would be nice if you could add the two initial players to the OP, under the line-up. Talking to opterown here. I'm aware that it's not really possible to know who they are till they go into their booths, but once they do they could be added.

yup, i intend to :D if you notice my premade OPs i have a space for it -> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14818122
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 KristofferAG   Norway. June 03 2012 22:11. Posts 9807
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Yeah I saw, just figured I'd post it here too :>
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 gawk   Germany. June 03 2012 22:28. Posts 309
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I usually only want to find
  • Liquipedia link
  • Stream link
  • Results
  • Live Reports
Both layouts are good to find those informations.
As long as you don't add fancy graphics that clutter everything I cannot complain.
 
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 Arceus   Vietnam. June 03 2012 22:32. Posts 4686
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Im fine with the layout. But STOP using one frickin banner for every single match. Look at BW threads, almost every single match/playday has their own banner. Well Im not saying opt/seeker/whoever have to make one, but it's not like no other posters contribute some, is it?

Besides, I'd like to see players and maps thumbnail if possible.
Lastly, screw the star rating system. Isnt it much simple to grade the game as "yes", "no" and "if you have time" ?
 
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 Trowa127   United Kingdom. June 03 2012 22:36. Posts 1158
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I think Seeker's are really good personally. Really loaded with info with is what I like, but also easy to navigate.
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  Seeker  *   Korea (South). June 03 2012 22:38. Posts 17288Profile Blog # 

On June 03 2012 22:32 Arceus wrote:
Im fine with the layout. But STOP using one frickin banner for every single match. Look at BW threads, almost every single match/playday has their own banner. Well Im not saying opt/seeker/whoever have to make one, but it's not like no other posters contribute some, is it?

Besides, I'd like to see players and maps thumbnail if possible.
Lastly, screw the star rating system. Isnt it much simple to grade the game as "yes", "no" and "if you have time" ?

a) i do use other banners. ppl used to pm me banners in the past but unfortunately they don't really do that anymore
b) I would make banners myself but I don't know how. And I've asked ppl on TL who've made banners before if they can teach me but they never have. And I honestly have no clue how I would even BEGIN learning how to create my own banners.
c) I DID screw the star system. If u check out the zenex vs tl thread, I have an entirely new format for recommended games.
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 Dissonance23   United States. June 03 2012 22:43. Posts 242
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I really love the "Today's Match-Up" section in SeeKeR's thread, as well as the general amount of information.
 
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 opterown  *   Australia. June 03 2012 22:46. Posts 27566
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On June 03 2012 22:32 Arceus wrote:
Im fine with the layout. But STOP using one frickin banner for every single match. Look at BW threads, almost every single match/playday has their own banner. Well Im not saying opt/seeker/whoever have to make one, but it's not like no other posters contribute some, is it?

Besides, I'd like to see players and maps thumbnail if possible.
Lastly, screw the star rating system. Isnt it much simple to grade the game as "yes", "no" and "if you have time" ?

with those things, my main reason is that they take up a lot of space :S maps and player profiles can really add up and a lot of scrolling to reach results/etc can be annoying

i can make banners, and if people want them i shall try to get new ones each day. but there's also time constraints of course haha.

regarding info - what am i missing that seeker has? any specific examples? i will try to include them without compromising the cleanness of my layout.
Last edit: 2012-06-03 22:47:00
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