| Vallz June 04 2012 10:12. Posts 36 | Profile # |
Hey Teamliquid,
I was thinking, I've noticed a lot of streamers (most of them from USA) are discussing politics with the viewers, fx : how stupid people were to re elect this president and QQ about propaganda etc.
So personally, I'm not into politics but my concern is, is it really constructive to talk about politics on your live stream?
#1 You could lose some fans/viewers because of diverse opinions #2 If you are willing to talk, most people will prefer commentating your game or telling a fun story. #3 You are more likely to cause a lot of BM in chat
TL;DR : Do Starcraft 2 and world politics belong together?. |
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| zezamer Finland. June 04 2012 10:14. Posts 1805 | Profile # |
| It's the streamer's own stream. He can talk about anything he wants. |
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| Vallz June 04 2012 10:15. Posts 36 | Profile # |
On June 04 2012 10:14 zezamer wrote: It's the streamer's own stream. He can talk about anything he wants.
I'm talking about his own sake, ofcourse he can do what he wants. But is it constructive? |
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| Shiori June 04 2012 10:15. Posts 2824 | Profile Blog # |
| Supporter of some political parties are, in my humble opinion, not worth being affiliated with. |
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| AndAgain United States. June 04 2012 10:20. Posts 2486 | Profile # |
| I'd say it's probably not wise. Letting other people know your political views is more likely to make them dislike you than like you. In other words, you have more to lose than to gain. |
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| zezamer Finland. June 04 2012 10:21. Posts 1805 | Profile # |
On June 04 2012 10:15 Vallz wrote: Show nested quote +On June 04 2012 10:14 zezamer wrote: It's the streamer's own stream. He can talk about anything he wants.
I'm talking about his own sake, ofcourse he can do what he wants. But is it constructive?
Ah. Well imo trying to argue politics on internet hardly ever leads to decent discussion so maybe staying away from the topic as streamer would make everyone's life easier.
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| goiflin Canada. June 04 2012 10:24. Posts 1019 | Profile Blog # |
On June 04 2012 10:15 Vallz wrote: Show nested quote +On June 04 2012 10:14 zezamer wrote: It's the streamer's own stream. He can talk about anything he wants.
I'm talking about his own sake, ofcourse he can do what he wants. But is it constructive?
Does everything have to be constructive? |
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T.O.P. Hong Kong. June 04 2012 10:26. Posts 4450 | Profile Blog # |
On June 04 2012 10:20 AndAgain wrote: I'd say it's probably not wise. Letting other people know your political views is more likely to make them dislike you than like you. In other words, you have more to lose than to gain.
Yeah, that's why most companies try to be non-partisan. If they want to support a political party or a cause, they usually do it anonymously. |
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| emythrel United Kingdom. June 04 2012 10:27. Posts 2262 | Profile Blog # |
| Politics are important to everyone, well to those of us in democracies anyway. If you don't vote, then you don't have a voice. If you think that no one represents you, then you should do something about it and get involved. If talking about politics on a stream can get people interested one way or another, it should be done. More over, gamers are typically under 25 years old and 18-25 year olds are the least likely to vote, which personally i find ridiculous.... young people have the most to gain from voting as they are the ones who have the longest to live..... yes streamers should talk politics if they wish to. |
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| InSSerenity June 04 2012 10:28. Posts 110 | Profile # |
| Like everything in this world, it can work both ways. Don't try to nitpick it, don't watch them if it offends you that much. For every person they lose talking about it, there's people that will watch because they do support it. It's not just a "oh they talk about politics they lose viewers." If they're a democrat and talking about it, more democrats might find that more appealing than something they're watching and tune into the stream because of that fact. |
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| Ace.Xile United States. June 04 2012 10:29. Posts 286 | Profile # |
On June 04 2012 10:20 AndAgain wrote: I'd say it's probably not wise. Letting other people know your political views is more likely to make them dislike you than like you. In other words, you have more to lose than to gain.
Why is it more likely to cause them to dislike you lol? Unless someone supports say the KKK or some other hate group, I find it hard to believe that there's really any real truth behind your claim.
That being said who cares what they talk about, very few streamers actually stream because it's 100 percent necessary, it's just extra money in the bank, if politics is important to them, let them at it.Last edit: 2012-06-04 10:30:36 |
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| TBone- June 04 2012 10:30. Posts 1750 | Profile Blog # |
| As long as they don't break the terms of service they can talk about whatever they want. And if I don't like the discussion I'll just mute the stream and continue watching. Also there are stream mods for a reason, if it gets out of hand they can just give people bans/timeouts. |
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| Vallz June 04 2012 10:31. Posts 36 | Profile # |
On June 04 2012 10:28 InSSerenity wrote: Like everything in this world, it can work both ways. Don't try to nitpick it, don't watch them if it offends you that much. For every person they lose talking about it, there's people that will watch because they do support it. It's not just a "oh they talk about politics they lose viewers." If they're a democrat and talking about it, more democrats might find that more appealing than something they're watching and tune into the stream because of that fact.
What I B on the quote is exactly what I'm talking about. I'm not offended by any politics since I don't have much interest in it. But I know politics are quite sensitive for a lot of people 
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| InSSerenity June 04 2012 10:33. Posts 110 | Profile # |
On June 04 2012 10:27 emythrel wrote: Politics are important to everyone, well to those of us in democracies anyway. If you don't vote, then you don't have a voice. If you think that no one represents you, then you should do something about it and get involved. If talking about politics on a stream can get people interested one way or another, it should be done. More over, gamers are typically under 25 years old and 18-25 year olds are the least likely to vote, which personally i find ridiculous.... young people have the most to gain from voting as they are the ones who have the longest to live..... yes streamers should talk politics if they wish to.
That's a very nice blanket you threw on me, but I don't really appreciate it. YOUR view is that they are important to EVERYONE, one person can never speak for the world, some people are happy to live without voting. As seen by the % of registered voters that actually turn out every year, you don't really have much to say for politics being important to everyone.
But I do agree with your last statement, this isn't racism or prejudice, don't try to censor it imo. |
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| NoobStyles Australia. June 04 2012 10:34. Posts 257 | Profile Blog # |
On June 04 2012 10:15 Vallz wrote: Show nested quote +On June 04 2012 10:14 zezamer wrote: It's the streamer's own stream. He can talk about anything he wants.
I'm talking about his own sake, ofcourse he can do what he wants. But is it constructive?
Why do you care? its the streamers choice what content they put out, and they’ve amassed their following doing whatever they do, so why should they care or listen to what other people thing they should be doing?
I'm a believer in free markets, let the streamers live and die by their own choices, protecting the idiots from themselves really doesn’t accomplish anything in the long run
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| sc2superfan101 June 04 2012 10:35. Posts 2434 | Profile Blog # |
but isn't it kind of refreshing to have someone be totally unconcerned with doing the politically correct thing? it might not be a good idea, but damn it, i think it's a fine move. i applaud a man/woman willing to put it out there on the line.
though i would never suggest anyone do it, because it can cause problems.
edit: no reason to be sexist. Last edit: 2012-06-04 10:35:55 |
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| Badfatpanda United States. June 04 2012 10:40. Posts 9261 | Profile Blog # |
It doesn't have to be constructive, that's why it's called personal opinion. Personally, my opinion is to avoid discussion of politics, religion, and abortion with people I actually want to remain in contact with. Not because I have radical views, just because it generally turns into conflict, and spawns threads like these. But outside of my little bubble, people can do whatever the fuck they want in the confines of the rules they abide to, and talking about that they want on stream falls outside of those rules unless they happen to be on a team, to whom it may concern. |
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| Vallz June 04 2012 10:43. Posts 36 | Profile # |
On June 04 2012 10:34 NoobStyles wrote: Show nested quote +On June 04 2012 10:15 Vallz wrote: On June 04 2012 10:14 zezamer wrote: It's the streamer's own stream. He can talk about anything he wants.
I'm talking about his own sake, ofcourse he can do what he wants. But is it constructive?
Why do you care? its the streamers choice what content they put out, and they’ve amassed their following doing whatever they do, so why should they care or listen to what other people thing they should be doing? I'm a believer in free markets, let the streamers live and die by their own choices, protecting the idiots from themselves really doesn’t accomplish anything in the long run
You are missing the point. |
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| Torte de Lini Canada. June 04 2012 10:43. Posts 27084 | Profile Blog # |
So personally, I'm not into politics but my concern is, is it really constructive to talk about politics on your live stream?
Their choice, who gives a shit? Whether it's wise or not (as they may lose viewers) isn't something that should be all too concerning to be honest.Last edit: 2012-06-04 10:44:14 |
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Josh_rakoons United Kingdom. June 04 2012 10:44. Posts 1157 | Profile # |
On June 04 2012 10:43 Torte de Lini wrote: Show nested quote +So personally, I'm not into politics but my concern is, is it really constructive to talk about politics on your live stream?
Their choice, who gives a shit? Whether it's wise or not (as they may lose viewers) isn't something that should be all too concerning to be honest.
I guess he does :/ |
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