| Kaniol Poland. June 08 2012 12:45. Posts 3097 | Profile Blog # |
On June 08 2012 11:12 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 11:11 vertigo1 wrote:
the fact that hes the worst ad carry of all probably
That's what people said about Ahri and 50+ other champions on release -_--
Ahri wasn't a good ad carry on release though  |
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 Chill Canada. June 08 2012 12:52. Posts 25253 | Profile Blog # |
Mogwai why are you so angry? I always see you post and it seems like you know your shit so I watched your stream today and it's just nerd ranting  |
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| Flakes United States. June 08 2012 12:58. Posts 1119 | Profile Blog # |
On June 08 2012 12:38 Shikyo wrote:
Call me crazy but I think that tanky Draven might be imba
If his lane phase is as shaky as people say, then Chaox's old Wriggles+2-3dblades --> PD build sounds like it would be good on him. Especially if keeping his axes going is worth taking a few hits. |
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| jcarlsoniv United States. June 08 2012 13:04. Posts 4086 | Profile Blog # |
On June 08 2012 12:52 Chill wrote:Mogwai why are you so angry? I always see you post and it seems like you know your shit so I watched your stream today and it's just nerd ranting
Darius is supposed to give him free-los, but his teammates making it hard on him. |
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| chalice June 08 2012 13:06. Posts 272 | Profile # |
On June 08 2012 12:58 Flakes wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 12:38 Shikyo wrote:
Call me crazy but I think that tanky Draven might be imba
If his lane phase is as shaky as people say, then Chaox's old Wriggles+2-3dblades --> PD build sounds like it would be good on him. Especially if keeping his axes going is worth taking a few hits.
i think you're much better off going IE or even BT first rather than PD on a champ with a refreshable AS steroid given the way attack speed and attack damage scale together, especially when you consider how his Q scales with AD. |
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| jcc United States. June 08 2012 13:23. Posts 234 | Profile # |
| So after tons of games in solo Q this week, i've come to the conclusion that skarner is not viable in solo Q anymore |
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| jcarlsoniv United States. June 08 2012 13:24. Posts 4086 | Profile Blog # |
On June 08 2012 13:23 jcc wrote:
So after tons of games in solo Q this week, i've come to the conclusion that skarner is not viable in solo Q anymore
He's extremely hit or miss I feel. He completely relies on the mistakes of others imo, so if you get halfway competent opponents, he's just a dumb scorpion. |
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| Craton United States. June 08 2012 13:29. Posts 10178 | Profile Blog # |
| Yeah, if you can't get ahead enough to just go superman on their team then it's hard to make an impact short of flash ulting someone in a moment of full derp. |
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| Flakes United States. June 08 2012 13:30. Posts 1119 | Profile Blog # |
On June 08 2012 13:06 chalice wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 12:58 Flakes wrote:
On June 08 2012 12:38 Shikyo wrote:
Call me crazy but I think that tanky Draven might be imba
If his lane phase is as shaky as people say, then Chaox's old Wriggles+2-3dblades --> PD build sounds like it would be good on him. Especially if keeping his axes going is worth taking a few hits.
i think you're much better off going IE or even BT first rather than PD on a champ with a refreshable AS steroid given the way attack speed and attack damage scale together, especially when you consider how his Q scales with AD.
Yeah, the point of that build was to give you 43-53 AD and a bunch of survivability during the laning phase (before even starting PD) to allow you to make plays against (otherwise) stronger laning carries. |
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| Requizen United States. June 08 2012 13:39. Posts 7319 | Profile Blog # |
On June 08 2012 13:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 13:23 jcc wrote:
So after tons of games in solo Q this week, i've come to the conclusion that skarner is not viable in solo Q anymore
He's extremely hit or miss I feel. He completely relies on the mistakes of others imo, so if you get halfway competent opponents, he's just a dumb scorpion.
As much as I don't subscribe to "tier lists", Stonewall said it well on his latest writeup: Skarner (and Udyr) are a bit antiquated. They're very strong, but other junglers just shine more and have more gimmicks/actual strengths to them. Skarner clears fast, peels hard, and ganks well post-6, but so do most other good jungles who also have a bit more to offer. |
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| zulu_nation8 China. June 08 2012 13:46. Posts 18693 | Profile Blog # |
| i'm pretty sure stonewall has no idea what happens in solo queue. I've been monster carried by skarners. |
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| WaveofShadow Canada. June 08 2012 13:49. Posts 5232 | Profile Blog # |
So, what the fuck.
I just bought Nautilus and I heard Wit's End is an okay item because of the DoT on his W.
Ingame, I have not one, but THREE different people (one of my friends among them) calling me out on my build.
Boots start into Philo-->HoG-->Merc's-->Wit's and I was 1/0/2 at this point.
"Who gets fucking Wit's End on Nautilus?"
Am I doing something wrong? I didn't get glacial or Aegis yet because our team was lacking damage more than anything....
Like wtf I didn't think I was that off in my item builds...I never get called out for that shit.
SOMEONE VALIDATE MEEEE (Or shut me down and tell me I'm a fucking idiot)Last edit: 2012-06-08 13:55:04 |
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| Gahlo United States. June 08 2012 13:53. Posts 1954 | Profile # |
| Hmm, Draven seems like a Triforce AD carry to me. The slow will make it safer to catch your axes and the W spam will proc a crapload out of Triforce. He gains on works with everything but AP, and since PD got it's movespeed nerf you won't lose out there either. |
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| zulu_nation8 China. June 08 2012 13:55. Posts 18693 | Profile Blog # |
| you can build triforce on any AD but pure AD items always gets you the most damage if you scale physical. |
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| chalice June 08 2012 14:05. Posts 272 | Profile # |
On June 08 2012 13:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
So, what the fuck.
I just bought Nautilus and I heard Wit's End is an okay item because of the DoT on his W.
Ingame, I have not one, but THREE different people (one of my friends among them) calling me out on my build.
Boots start into Philo-->HoG-->Merc's-->Wit's and I was 1/0/2 at this point.
"Who gets fucking Wit's End on Nautilus?"
Am I doing something wrong? I didn't get glacial or Aegis yet because our team was lacking damage more than anything....
Like wtf I didn't think I was that off in my item builds...I never get called out for that shit.
SOMEONE VALIDATE MEEEE (Or shut me down and tell me I'm a fucking idiot)
in solo queue if you're pulling off successful ganks i feel it's your duty to your team as nautilus to get a wit's end to try to carry in midgame, wit's, aegis, glacial is such a tight cost efficient core i don't really see the downside.
i mean yeah, if you're playing at like a pro tourney level you probably want to go full tank and just rush aegis, but if they don't understand the reasoning behind wit's and the synergy it has with naut's W it's probably just a lack of knowledge on their part. |
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| phyvo United States. June 08 2012 14:11. Posts 1447 | Profile Blog # |
On June 08 2012 12:52 Chill wrote:Mogwai why are you so angry? I always see you post and it seems like you know your shit so I watched your stream today and it's just nerd ranting
While I love him I think he does need to follow his corgi gif's lead and stay at least half as happy as it is. |
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| overt United States. June 08 2012 14:13. Posts 3978 | Profile Blog # |
On June 08 2012 13:53 Gahlo wrote:
Hmm, Draven seems like a Triforce AD carry to me. The slow will make it safer to catch your axes and the W spam will proc a crapload out of Triforce. He gains on works with everything but AP, and since PD got it's movespeed nerf you won't lose out there either.
Won't be able to take advantage of sheen procs the way Ez and Corki can though, his CDs are too long. And even though they can use Trinity more than any other AD carries it isn't even an item you always go on either of 'em.
I think you'd be better off getting early BT on him instead of Trinity personally because of all of his AD scaling.Last edit: 2012-06-08 14:13:32 |
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| Shikyo Finland. June 08 2012 14:17. Posts 20141 | Profile Blog # |
On June 08 2012 13:55 zulu_nation8 wrote:
you can build triforce on any AD but pure AD items always gets you the most damage if you scale physical.
Damage is a very tiny part of Triforce though
On June 08 2012 14:13 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 13:53 Gahlo wrote:
Hmm, Draven seems like a Triforce AD carry to me. The slow will make it safer to catch your axes and the W spam will proc a crapload out of Triforce. He gains on works with everything but AP, and since PD got it's movespeed nerf you won't lose out there either.
Won't be able to take advantage of sheen procs the way Ez and Corki can though, his CDs are too long. And even though they can use Trinity more than any other AD carries it isn't even an item you always go on either of 'em. I think you'd be better off getting early BT on him instead of Trinity personally because of all of his AD scaling.
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| Gahlo United States. June 08 2012 14:18. Posts 1954 | Profile # |
On June 08 2012 14:13 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 13:53 Gahlo wrote:
Hmm, Draven seems like a Triforce AD carry to me. The slow will make it safer to catch your axes and the W spam will proc a crapload out of Triforce. He gains on works with everything but AP, and since PD got it's movespeed nerf you won't lose out there either.
Won't be able to take advantage of sheen procs the way Ez and Corki can though, his CDs are too long. And even though they can use Trinity more than any other AD carries it isn't even an item you always go on either of 'em. I think you'd be better off getting early BT on him instead of Trinity personally because of all of his AD scaling.
Catching an axe refreshes W's CD. I was also throwing the notion out there to get it instead of PD. |
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| ZERG_RUSSIAN June 08 2012 14:23. Posts 5096 | Profile Blog # |
On June 08 2012 12:52 Chill wrote:Mogwai why are you so angry? I always see you post and it seems like you know your shit so I watched your stream today and it's just nerd ranting
You missed the glory days of TL-A going up against all the players that are currently professionals. Smash was and still is TL's LoL leader. |
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