| Vaporized United States. June 15 2012 05:01. Posts 916 | Profile # |
| i dont see why anyone would be upset about the price for the new ez skin. riot obviously put a lot of work into it, and 25 bucks is the price they chose to sell it at. if its not worth that much money to u then dont buy it. |
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| Dark_Chill Canada. June 15 2012 05:12. Posts 1060 | Profile # |
I don't get the comparison to Dota's stronger abilities for heroes. If all the abilities are stronger, then don't they become not strong in the context of the game?
Also, can someone explain Riot's reasoning to make a skin worth the same amount as a champion? |
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| Shiv. June 15 2012 05:13. Posts 1903 | Profile # |
On June 15 2012 05:01 Vaporized wrote:
i dont see why anyone would be upset about the price for the new ez skin. riot obviously put a lot of work into it, and 25 bucks is the price they chose to sell it at. if its not worth that much money to u then dont buy it.
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On June 15 2012 05:12 Dark_Chill wrote:
Also, can someone explain Riot's reasoning to make a skin worth the same amount as a champion?
They put as much or more effort into it, hence it's worth the same or more.Last edit: 2012-06-15 05:13:43 |
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| Gorsameth Netherlands. June 15 2012 05:14. Posts 2023 | Profile # |
On June 15 2012 05:12 Dark_Chill wrote:
I don't get the comparison to Dota's stronger abilities for heroes. If all the abilities are stronger, then don't they become not strong in the context of the game?
Also, can someone explain Riot's reasoning to make a skin worth the same amount as a champion?
Balance through everyone being OP isnt a health form of balance.
The reason Dotas abilities are stronger is because the game works different and it works in those settings. |
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| Two_DoWn United States. June 15 2012 05:15. Posts 7272 | Profile Blog # |
On June 15 2012 05:12 Dark_Chill wrote:
I don't get the comparison to Dota's stronger abilities for heroes. If all the abilities are stronger, then don't they become not strong in the context of the game?
Also, can someone explain Riot's reasoning to make a skin worth the same amount as a champion?
Not exactly.
Think BW- every unit is super powerful, but together they all sort of work. But they still retain their feeling of being powerful. |
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| RogerX New Zealand. June 15 2012 05:16. Posts 2490 | Profile Blog # |
On June 15 2012 05:01 Vaporized wrote:
i dont see why anyone would be upset about the price for the new ez skin. riot obviously put a lot of work into it, and 25 bucks is the price they chose to sell it at. if its not worth that much money to u then dont buy it.
Totally agreed here.
I think a reason some people are upset is because they're getting affected by a marketting ploy, but don't they experience that everywhere ? -.-
Anyway I'm gonna buy it and I'm not gonna complain about the price :D |
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| TheKefka Croatia. June 15 2012 05:16. Posts 8476 | Profile Blog # |
Er a buddy just told me they are going to remove elo loss when you dodge ranked games.
Wtf,won't that like,break the whole ranked que lol? |
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| Requizen United States. June 15 2012 05:17. Posts 7531 | Profile Blog # |
On June 15 2012 05:12 Dark_Chill wrote:
I don't get the comparison to Dota's stronger abilities for heroes. If all the abilities are stronger, then don't they become not strong in the context of the game?
Also, can someone explain Riot's reasoning to make a skin worth the same amount as a champion?
You're right about that, it's just a different game style. Riot's approach is to tone everything down so CC and super strong abilities are long CDs and shorter durations, while Valve took the approach of "as long as everything is OP, nothing is OP". They both work in their own settings, you just can't mix and match.
The reasoning is that it's the most ambitious skin, period. Not only does it have the completely new voiceovers like every other (well, every "good") legendary skin has, it has some of the best particle effects in the game, and Ezreal actually has 4 different character models as he levels. He also causes unique death animations on minions and champions. Like Vaporized said, if you don't think all that is worth the price, that's your opinion. I'll be day 1 buying.
On June 15 2012 05:16 TheKefka wrote:
Er a buddy just told me they are going to remove elo loss when you dodge ranked games.
Wtf,won't that like,break the whole ranked que lol?
I think it's to prevent losing ELO when you dodge a game because your team picks all AD carries and you don't want an instant loss.Last edit: 2012-06-15 05:19:22 |
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| Mogwai United States. June 15 2012 05:19. Posts 8050 | Profile Blog # |
On June 15 2012 05:16 TheKefka wrote:
Er a buddy just told me they are going to remove elo loss when you dodge ranked games.
Wtf,won't that like,break the whole ranked que lol?
maybe your buddy isn't the most credible source? |
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| Simberto Germany. June 15 2012 05:19. Posts 2767 | Profile Blog # |
On June 15 2012 05:16 TheKefka wrote:
Er a buddy just told me they are going to remove elo loss when you dodge ranked games.
Wtf,won't that like,break the whole ranked que lol?
Sounds to me like your buddy is trolling you. |
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| TheKefka Croatia. June 15 2012 05:19. Posts 8476 | Profile Blog # | |
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| De4ngus United States. June 15 2012 05:21. Posts 4999 | Profile Blog # |
| the removing elo loss thing is true |
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| Mogwai United States. June 15 2012 05:23. Posts 8050 | Profile Blog # |
depends on what deterrent they're adding for it to work. |
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| Juicyfruit Canada. June 15 2012 05:26. Posts 3488 | Profile # |
On June 15 2012 05:21 De4ngus wrote:
the removing elo loss thing is true
Happy birthday nubsauce. |
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| Goshawk. United Kingdom. June 15 2012 05:28. Posts 3374 | Profile Blog # |
| Can't think of any realistic deterrent that will make it so ranked games don't have a million dodges. |
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| gtrsrs United States. June 15 2012 05:28. Posts 4478 | Profile # |
well, frankly, it never made sense that you lost elo AND had a time penalty
it should have been one or the other. the combination of both made it so everyone would rather risk playing with promote/revive eve than instantly losing 10 elo and not getting to play at all.
i expect they'll either just up the wait time after dodging to absurd amounts (halfhour first dodge, hour second) or implement a "leaver" queue where your queues are longer the more you dodge games and also filled with leavers, so you never get games.
also, it sickens me that riot will probably make $30million+ on that ezreal skin the first day it comes out. i mean i don't dislike them making money, but i will get sick with jealousy, and anyone with an artistic side should also be extremely jelly. when did one of your pieces of art sell for $30million?
also i've been tanking my elo and i'm playing in the 1500s now and it is hilarious
every game i drop, the players get more and more cocky and also more insecure. at the slightest mistake by ANYONE, the entire game implodes and it's the ragefest of a lifetime. i didn't give blue buff to a mid ONE TIME and he left the game (that we were winning HANDILY) for 10 minutes then came back and just took buffs every time they were up. lol. classy AND hilarious. i also havne't seen a support hero in like 12 games. galio bot, orianna bot, jarvan bot, akali bot, kennen bot... people will do ANYTHING to not play a support heroLast edit: 2012-06-15 05:32:28 |
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| De4ngus United States. June 15 2012 05:28. Posts 4999 | Profile Blog # |
On June 15 2012 05:26 Juicyfruit wrote:Happy birthday nubsauce.
a wild tapiocaball comes out of a month of hiding..... |
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| Requizen United States. June 15 2012 05:30. Posts 7531 | Profile Blog # |
On June 15 2012 05:28 Goshawk. wrote:
Can't think of any realistic deterrent that will make it so ranked games don't have a million dodges.
People actually want to play? I mean, sure, you're occasionally going to get people who dodge because they don't get mid or whatever, but the time penalty is already enough of a deterrent, imo. Most people are comfortable playing 2-3 roles as is, and personally I'd rather not play with someone who's a "mid or feed"-er anyway. |
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| Keniji Germany. June 15 2012 05:37. Posts 1363 | Profile Blog # |
Am I the only one who likes the champs I am not good with (at least when I pick them up) the most. It would be awesome if I'd like the champs that I pick up and instant roflstomp the game with but I usually tend to play champs I often lose my lane with or overall don't do so well with because I like their mechanics better :[ And it's not even the high skill champs.
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| seanisgrand United States. June 15 2012 05:39. Posts 762 | Profile Blog # |
On June 15 2012 05:28 gtrsrs wrote:
well, frankly, it never made sense that you lost elo AND had a time penalty
it should have been one or the other. the combination of both made it so everyone would rather risk playing with promote/revive eve than instantly losing 10 elo and not getting to play at all.
i expect they'll either just up the wait time after dodging to absurd amounts (halfhour first dodge, hour second) or implement a "leaver" queue where your queues are longer the more you dodge games and also filled with leavers, so you never get games.
also, it sickens me that riot will probably make $30million+ on that ezreal skin the first day it comes out. i mean i don't dislike them making money, but i will get sick with jealousy, and anyone with an artistic side should also be extremely jelly. when did one of your pieces of art sell for $30million?
also i've been tanking my elo and i'm playing in the 1500s now and it is hilarious
every game i drop, the players get more and more cocky and also more insecure. at the slightest mistake by ANYONE, the entire game implodes and it's the ragefest of a lifetime. i didn't give blue buff to a mid ONE TIME and he left the game (that we were winning HANDILY) for 10 minutes then came back and just took buffs every time they were up. lol. classy AND hilarious. i also havne't seen a support hero in like 12 games. galio bot, orianna bot, jarvan bot, akali bot, kennen bot... people will do ANYTHING to not play a support hero
Boy, 1500s sounds like heaven. Sitting in 1200-1350 all I get are standard team comps AND ragefests. Also, 1st item bloodrazor standard ww build np |
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