| xwoGworwaTsx United States. June 11 2012 00:14. Posts 845 | Profile # |
In a new scientific study published in the Journal of Labor Research for June, researchers have found that employees who regularly exercise earn 9% more than their lazier and less fit counterparts.
This has always been a popular notion, but it was only until now that it has been proven by scientific research. Employees who are more physically fit - specifically those who hit the gym - and who are more physically symmetric and beautiful or handsome, have always received more favorable circumstances at work, chief of this is in their salaries. The latest study defined “regular exercise” as working out at least three hours a week. Considering that the average hourly wage in the U.S. is $23.41, the time workers spend at the gym is valued at $70.23 — but the extra pay the exercising employee receives is $84.28, about 20% more than the value of the time spent at the gym.
One the other hand, various studies have also shown people who are not fit and attractive tend to earn less.
Is this a new sort of ism, like racism and sexism, this time maybe fitism or healthism? Some people are naturally fit without doing as much exercise. While some people also tend to get fat and obese even without being "lazy" as the popular notion with such people go. I believe people should be judged on their character and competence and never on their appearance.
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| kef June 11 2012 00:16. Posts 282 | Profile # |
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa buddy!
Anyways, would it be wrong to say that healthy people (by definition) tend to have more energy and get sick less often, and thus are able to work more? |
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| Clarity_nl Netherlands. June 11 2012 00:16. Posts 3283 | Profile # |
I think it's more along the lines of: people who are lazy earn less.
It also turns out people who are lazy go to the gym less!
On June 11 2012 00:16 kef wrote:
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa buddy!
Anyways, would it be wrong to say that healthy people (by definition) tend to have more energy and get sick less often, and thus are able to work more?
I wouldn't say they worked more, I'd say they work harder/with more initiative.Last edit: 2012-06-11 00:17:52 |
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| kef June 11 2012 00:18. Posts 282 | Profile # |
On June 11 2012 00:16 Clarity_nl wrote:I think it's more along the lines of: people who are lazy earn less. It also turns out people who are lazy go to the gym less!
Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 00:16 kef wrote:
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa buddy!
Anyways, would it be wrong to say that healthy people (by definition) tend to have more energy and get sick less often, and thus are able to work more?
I wouldn't say they worked more, I'd say they work harder/with more initiative.
Yeah that pretty much sums up what I think |
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| CustomKal Canada. June 11 2012 00:18. Posts 435 | Profile # |
| Its probably just lazy vs driven people. Going to gym is just a way of showing you can motivate yourself, so in hind sight you might just happen to be a better worker regardless and deserve the extra wage. Unless its people in the same jobs earning different amounts I doubt it has anything to do with an "ism". |
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| Saline United States. June 11 2012 00:19. Posts 71 | Profile # |
This sounds like a classic case of correlation without causation.
Most likely, people that regularly go to the gym are the type of people with well-structured lifestyles. These people are probably a bit more dedicated, better for jobs (i.e. they are organized), etc. The point is--it is not the going to the gym that earns them higher pay, it's the fact that their personalities predispose them to both earning more and going to the gym.
This is a difficult variable to control for. Can you provide a link to the actual study? Edit: thanks for link.Last edit: 2012-06-11 00:20:08 |
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| ShadeR Australia. June 11 2012 00:19. Posts 6625 | Profile Blog # |
On June 11 2012 00:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think it's more along the lines of: people who are lazy earn less.
It also turns out people who are lazy go to the gym less!
I feel this too. Personally gym has help me schedule my other commitments more effectively (uni/work). |
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| sc2superfan101 June 11 2012 00:20. Posts 2434 | Profile Blog # |
being physically capable of performing a variety of tasks couldn't ever hurt your salary.
i don't think people should be judged on their appearance unless this is a beauty contest, but the problem is that most people don't agree with me and you. a lot of people see someone who is overweight as being inherently lazier than the physically fit person. this is, of course, a ridiculous notion, but it is very widespread nonetheless.
everyone should probably go to the gym or something similar at least 3x a week though. |
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| airtown United States. June 11 2012 00:22. Posts 401 | Profile Blog # |
On June 11 2012 00:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think it's more along the lines of: people who are lazy earn less.
It also turns out people who are lazy go to the gym less!
To me, this seems most likely to be the reason for most of the pay difference.
Some people have a lot of motivation, which both helps them maintain a healthy weight and work hard to get paid more. |
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| Basher_ June 11 2012 00:29. Posts 81 | Profile # |
Another thought is that people who go to the gym are higher motivated and more disciplined. Exercise is a form of self-overcoming, as is hard work generally.
[ed: ya now that i've loaded the page, everyone said this]Last edit: 2012-06-11 00:30:51 |
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| eXigent. Canada. June 11 2012 00:32. Posts 2398 | Profile Blog # |
I goto the gym 5 days a week but still feel lazy at work lol. Actually I think thats because all the lifting I do in the gym every week keeps me feeling sore all the time, thus I dont wanna do anything  |
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| Silvanel Poland. June 11 2012 00:35. Posts 1776 | Profile Blog # |
| This kinds of studies are usually meanigless... or to be precise this kind of reporting is crap. Its very hard to distingish cause and the effect. Ie. it may be that people who exercise earn more, or that people who earn a lot tend to exercise. |
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| Recognizable Netherlands. June 11 2012 00:36. Posts 1359 | Profile Blog # |
| It's a correlation. Still, exercise is always good ^^ |
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| Daniel C Hong Kong. June 11 2012 00:36. Posts 1434 | Profile # |
On June 11 2012 00:19 Saline wrote:
This sounds like a classic case of correlation without causation.
Most likely, people that regularly go to the gym are the type of people with well-structured lifestyles. These people are probably a bit more dedicated, better for jobs (i.e. they are organized), etc. The point is--it is not the going to the gym that earns them higher pay, it's the fact that their personalities predispose them to both earning more and going to the gym.
This is a difficult variable to control for. Can you provide a link to the actual study? Edit: thanks for link.
Beat me to it. |
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| knOxStarcraft Canada. June 11 2012 00:36. Posts 243 | Profile # |
I'm going to give you an example of why someone who's fit and good looking would get paid more than a fat person assuming they are both equally competent at what they do. Say their boss needs to promote someone to a management position, obviously the boss will pick the better looking person. All of the reasons why sound shallow but it's just the way it is - I would much rather have an attractive boss than a fat one assuming they are equally as good at managing people, and I'm sure almost everyone else, if they're being honest, would share that opinion.
I wouldn't call this an "ism" because you can change your weight, whereas people can't change their skin colour or sex (not easily anyways). Also, racism and sexism are much worse than someones pay getting docked a small amount because they're fat. And the dock in pay may actually be warranted if their job effectiveness is less because they're fat - like a management position.
One more thing, I know you said being fat doesn't show laziness sometimes, but majority of the time I think it does. If a fat person goes to the gym everyday and still can't lose weight that's a different story, but a fat person who is content with being fat and being unhealthy shows that they're lazy and don't give a shit about their health and a boss who recognises this will not give them a management promotion over a fit person, for good reason. |
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| japro June 11 2012 00:39. Posts 171 | Profile # |
Did you know that women that drink coke have less misscarriages?
On an unrelated note, both coke consumption and misscarriages are correlated to age... |
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| UncleOwnage Denmark. June 11 2012 00:39. Posts 36 | Profile # |
Like others, my first reaction was; "correlation does not imply causation", but if you actually read the article, it says that they did not just compare all kinds of people from one big pool.
In this latest study, researcher Vasilios Kosteas of Cleveland State University scored each subject on how well they fit the profile of a regular exerciser. He then compared only similar individuals, some of whom didn’t exercise, and found that those who actually did earned more — 9% more.
This basically says they profiled people, giving more basis for their claim.
Interesting thought, but I myself will still remain skeptical until I read the actual journal (even if I never will). |
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| FallDownMarigold United States. June 11 2012 00:42. Posts 3228 | Profile Blog # |
| Link the peer reviewed article please |
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| Kyrillion Russian Federation. June 11 2012 00:49. Posts 575 | Profile # |
This has always been a popular notion, but it was only until now that it has been proven by scientific research.
I chucke everytime I read "scientific research" about simple statistics that aim at proving an everyday-life fact. It is hilarious how sociologists and their acolytes feel the need to call what they do "science" even when it simply comes down to counting people on a large scale.
I also enjoy when research is done in order to show a result that was completely obvious and predictable to begin with.
If they want to do useful and pertinent research, they might as well try to see if people who play Starcraft earn more or less on average. That I'd like to have statistics about, although it would probably be more (yes, I'm aware computers are not free).Last edit: 2012-06-11 00:52:05 |
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| Ouija United States. June 11 2012 00:52. Posts 26 | Profile # |
So from what I understand people who go to the Gym are not harder workers they just do not face the discrimination that many people have to deal with on a daily basis.
Keep going to the gym and fueling your egos. |
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