| KawaiiRice United States. June 11 2012 04:11. Posts 2807 | Profile Blog # |
its not about why artist didn't show up, it's about how it affects the next player that would have been seeded if artist didn't take the spot. (whoever was seed 9 should have been seeded into wr5 this event)
also I'd love to get a free win at winners round 5 but thats just stupid... |
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| Chargelot June 11 2012 04:12. Posts 2274 | Profile Blog # |
On June 11 2012 04:11 tehn00bie wrote: Let the pitchfork hunting begin yet again... When will this ever stop.
Read the OP. Apply a little brain power. No one is hunting Artist. No one cares about Artist. It's how MLG has handled a no-show, which is to continue to seed a no-show into a tournament at which he also was a no-show. |
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| SupLilSon Malaysia. June 11 2012 04:13. Posts 3165 | Profile # |
On June 11 2012 04:08 iwearcapes wrote: Xeris we dont know full details on why he didnt show up. but honestly will it make a difference? it doesn't if u think about it. you are the only one with a problem with it it seems like.
I don't think he's mad at Artist for not showing up. He recently left his team, no team, no money, in Korea, no way to get here for MLG. It's not a problem with Artist IMO. But I think he is saying MLG should recognize this and remove him from the bracket if they know he isn't attending? That's how I read it. Maybe he is pissed at Artist though O.o |
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| tehn00bie United Kingdom. June 11 2012 04:13. Posts 31 | Profile # |
| It's not about how he didn't. It's about how he couldn't. He is not at fault for his own teams lack of support that was initially promised. It's just unlucky. It's also about MLG replacing the player. But of course MLG being MLG have better things to do. Like... Oh I dunno... Make more money and monopolise as usual? |
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| Zaphid Czech Republic. June 11 2012 04:13. Posts 1342 | Profile Blog # |
On June 11 2012 04:11 tehn00bie wrote: Let the pitchfork hunting begin yet again... When will this ever stop.
Do people even read the OP? the issue is that MLG awards free wins pretty far into the tournament instead of finding replacements |
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| iwearcapes France. June 11 2012 04:13. Posts 143 | Profile Blog # |
On June 11 2012 04:09 Chargelot wrote: Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 03:55 AeroEffect wrote: does this really deserve its own thread?
Did you just try to backseat mod THE Xeris? brb gonna go tell Day[9] how to post. This is a pretty bad issue actually. It basically screws a lot of people over. Good catch man.
how is this a bad issue? stop exaggerating it doesn't screw anyone over. its technically one more person who didn't get in. if he didn't bring up this topic no one else would of and we would move on with our lives. this is honestly just causing MORE drama in sc2..... mods u should close the thread being the pitch forks and torches light up against artist . |
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| rhs408 United States. June 11 2012 04:14. Posts 684 | Profile # |
On June 11 2012 04:11 KawaiiRice wrote: its not about why artist didn't show up, it's about how it affects the next player that would have been seeded if artist didn't take the spot. (whoever was seed 9 should have been seeded into wr5 this event)
also I'd love to get a free win at winners round 5 but thats just stupid...
yeah he should be replaced, not just award free win for whoever was lucky enough to have him in their bracket. |
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| knicyo June 11 2012 04:15. Posts 177 | Profile # |
| I don't like you're title. It should be a discussion about mlg's policy concerning seeded players that drop, not so focused about Artist since he likely wanted to go but couldn't. It seems a bit misleading... |
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| Antisocialmunky United States. June 11 2012 04:16. Posts 5069 | Profile Blog # |
Not enough drama this weekend? -_-'
Enjoy the show. |
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| Diamond United States. June 11 2012 04:17. Posts 9014 | Profile Blog # |
On June 11 2012 04:13 iwearcapes wrote: Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 04:09 Chargelot wrote: On June 11 2012 03:55 AeroEffect wrote: does this really deserve its own thread?
Did you just try to backseat mod THE Xeris? brb gonna go tell Day[9] how to post. This is a pretty bad issue actually. It basically screws a lot of people over. Good catch man.
how is this a bad issue? stop exaggerating it doesn't screw anyone over. its technically one more person who didn't get in. if he didn't bring up this topic no one else would of and we would move on with our lives. this is honestly just causing MORE drama in sc2..... mods u should close the thread being the pitch forks and torches light up against artist .
This is not drama, it's just looking for an potential oversight in MLG's system that needs to be fixed, no drama there. |
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| Chargelot June 11 2012 04:17. Posts 2274 | Profile Blog # |
On June 11 2012 04:13 iwearcapes wrote: Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 04:09 Chargelot wrote: On June 11 2012 03:55 AeroEffect wrote: does this really deserve its own thread?
Did you just try to backseat mod THE Xeris? brb gonna go tell Day[9] how to post. This is a pretty bad issue actually. It basically screws a lot of people over. Good catch man.
how is this a bad issue? stop exaggerating it doesn't screw anyone over. its technically one more person who didn't get in. if he didn't bring up this topic no one else would of and we would move on with our lives. this is honestly just causing MORE drama in sc2..... mods u should close the thread being the pitch forks and torches light up against artist .
You're the only one carrying a pitchfork. Xeris isn't attacking Artist. |
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| iwearcapes France. June 11 2012 04:19. Posts 143 | Profile Blog # |
On June 11 2012 04:17 Chargelot wrote: Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 04:13 iwearcapes wrote: On June 11 2012 04:09 Chargelot wrote: On June 11 2012 03:55 AeroEffect wrote: does this really deserve its own thread?
Did you just try to backseat mod THE Xeris? brb gonna go tell Day[9] how to post. This is a pretty bad issue actually. It basically screws a lot of people over. Good catch man.
how is this a bad issue? stop exaggerating it doesn't screw anyone over. its technically one more person who didn't get in. if he didn't bring up this topic no one else would of and we would move on with our lives. this is honestly just causing MORE drama in sc2..... mods u should close the thread being the pitch forks and torches light up against artist .
You're the only one carrying a pitchfork. Xeris isn't attacking Artist.
yeah...... lol
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| Doodsmack United States. June 11 2012 04:19. Posts 2079 | Profile Blog # |
Wasn't Artist on Xeris's old team? I wonder if there's any hard feelings there...
Anyways this definitely isn't thread worthy. Xeris obviously is capable of communicating with MLG as he isn't just some random fan who has to go on MLG's website and click on "Contact Us".
EDIT: there is/will be an MLG feedback thread which is where this discussion probably belongs...Last edit: 2012-06-11 04:20:58 |
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| Nizzy United States. June 11 2012 04:20. Posts 838 | Profile Blog # |
On June 11 2012 03:54 Xeris wrote: I've got one small issue with MLG. For the past two Championship events... they've seeded Artist into Open Bracket Winners round 5 and he hasn't shown up to the event.
Why is this a problem? It means that whoever has him in their bracket path gets a free win into open winners 6... and whoever has him in the loser bracket path gets a free win to round 8 of loser bracket.
Secondly (and what happened last time). Because he's technically *IN* the bracket, he gets to be invited to the Arena qualifier. This means he'll be knocking other players out of the tournament even though he won't even attend MLG.
He basically qualified for the Arena, didn't go, but still got seeded into MLG, and didn't go, and it just made for a lame experience. That was one more deserving player who could have participated in this MLG but didn't get the chance to, and however many people he eliminated from the Arena qualifier.
It's a small issue, but I think it's important enough to bring up. I'm hoping he doesn't get invited to the next Arena qualifier because of his "placement" at this MLG (I wish I could get top 48 at an MLG I didn't even play in)
Nice find and I believe its a legit problem. I'm not sure how to fix it, could they just 'bump up the next player' who should be in that spot if he is confirmed not at the event?
Maybe you should correct the issues that others complain about in your leagues before complaining about another's?
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| Jaaaaasper United States. June 11 2012 04:22. Posts 2391 | Profile Blog # |
They should have a list of back up players to call in if something like this happens and they have advance warning. It is not artist's fault, and for those who didn't notice, xeris never said it was. MLG needs to find this out in advance and compensate in some way. |
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| Chargelot June 11 2012 04:22. Posts 2274 | Profile Blog # |
On June 11 2012 04:19 Doodsmack wrote: Wasn't Artist on Xeris's old team? I wonder if there's any hard feelings there...
Anyways this definitely isn't thread worthy. Xeris obviously is capable of communicating with MLG as he isn't just some random fan who has to go on MLG's website and click on "Contact Us".
EDIT: there is/will be an MLG feedback thread which is where this discussion probably belongs...
Feel free to use the report button to report the thread as unnecessary/lacking purpose. I don't believe Artist is on a team, nor do I think he's been on a real team since fOu was acquired by FXO, and I don't believe he has ever been on Fnatic.Last edit: 2012-06-11 04:27:38 |
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| Xpace United States. June 11 2012 04:24. Posts 2037 | Profile # |
Calm the f*ck down, the OP isn't out to hang Artist on a pole.
This thread should be redirected to one of the MLG staff. Through Tweets, or the fact that they're all on TL themselves. |
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| Jaaaaasper United States. June 11 2012 04:25. Posts 2391 | Profile Blog # |
On June 11 2012 04:13 iwearcapes wrote: Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 04:09 Chargelot wrote: On June 11 2012 03:55 AeroEffect wrote: does this really deserve its own thread?
Did you just try to backseat mod THE Xeris? brb gonna go tell Day[9] how to post. This is a pretty bad issue actually. It basically screws a lot of people over. Good catch man.
how is this a bad issue? stop exaggerating it doesn't screw anyone over. its technically one more person who didn't get in. if he didn't bring up this topic no one else would of and we would move on with our lives. this is honestly just causing MORE drama in sc2..... mods u should close the thread being the pitch forks and torches light up against artist .
Have you read anything in this thread? its not aimed at artist, and no one is calling for pitch forks, or even acting like it. It is having a effect on players, and that one player who gets screwed over cares, and this is how they make their living so yes it is a issue. |
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| Schmoooopy United States. June 11 2012 04:25. Posts 445 | Profile # |
| This isn't a witchhunt, sheesh. It's a totally legitimate issue and hopefully MLG addresses it. |
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| VirgilSC2 United States. June 11 2012 04:29. Posts 5743 | Profile Blog # |
We had a player who qualified for Spring Arena, went, and then wasn't able to attend Anaheim. We notified MLG, and they replaced his seed and he was not in the bracket.
Artist however did NOT notify MLG, stayed in the bracket, didn't show, and then will place somewhat highly in the championship even without showing.
Seems like an issue that should be brought up. |
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