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Does overclocking really help?

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 BlackKiller   June 11 2012 11:40. Posts 56
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Well let start off with my rig(This rig is barely like 1 month old).
Asrock P67 Pro3 b3
Intel i5 2500k 4.4GHZ @ 1.35 V(I know high volts ... so sad) with CM HYPER 212+ Double Fans
Sapphire 7850 (Asus GPU Tweak up to 1050Mhz and 4800Mhz with Auto fans)
Rosewill Capstone 550w
G.skillz 8Gb 1333Mhz
Samsung 128gb and 500 Seagate 500GB hard drive
Random DVD burner
Zalman z11 Case.
Well to started off I have 4 pics of 3D Mark11 benchmarks here are they.
Non Overclock All Stock
http://tinypic.com/r/28iawl0/6
Only Video Card Overclock to 1050Mhz and 5800Mhz
http://tinypic.com/r/2wpib6c/6
Only processor overclock to 4.4Ghz
http://tinypic.com/r/2ed5mh2/6
Video Card and Processor overclock
http://tinypic.com/r/54cgf4/6
I'm not seeing much a difference in overclocking do you and I when I try to overclock my GPU and run Starcraft 2 I literary see no gain only see maybe 10-15 extra FPS. Am I doing something wrong? If i am please help me figure this out I need help on this. I m getting about 100 FPS(while using Fraps) in extreme Starcraft 2 while in 1920x1080p. Is there something wrong with my drivers or anything please help and please tell me what to do.
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 slytown   United States. June 11 2012 11:42. Posts 1189
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You won't see it in SC2 with that chip. Games like Battlefield 3 will soak up more, or programs like video editors, but not SC2.
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 a176   Canada. June 11 2012 11:45. Posts 5429
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im not quite sure why you are complaining about here
100fps in sc2?
or your 3dmark score?
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 BlackKiller   June 11 2012 11:46. Posts 56
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Really so overclocking is useless for me? I m just gaming playing alot of games like Max payne 3, Counter Strike Source, Modern Warfare 3, Fifa 12, and much more. Should I underclock and take back my defualt speeds? I really dont wanna kill my lifespans for my CPU or GPU. What does overclocking benefit?
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 NovemberstOrm   Canada. June 11 2012 11:49. Posts 4149
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In the first place overclocking doesn't really help majorly, if you were doing video editing,video rendering or stuff like that you would see much more of an improvement. I don't know why you overclocked without really knowing what overclocking does and how much of an improvement it makes, because it sounds like you just did it thinking you would get a godly increase in performance which is not at all the case with overclocking especially since your rig is already quite good.
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 MattyClutch   United States. June 11 2012 11:53. Posts 628
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Overclocking is not generally going to give you a lot in Blizzard games, they don't usually go for the fences on graphics. In some games it can give you an advantage. If you are looking into overclocking you might really want to ditch that Rosewill PSU. I also hope you have some pretty decent cooling solutions for your PC and the room it is located in if you are going with that large of an OC.
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 BlackKiller   June 11 2012 12:02. Posts 56
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i have 2 80 mm fans and 2 120mm fans and CM Hyper 212 push and pull config and a AOC PCI Slot fan. and my room is cool it should be in the low temp in room temps.
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 Nabutso   June 11 2012 12:25. Posts 351
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Your CPU is designed to last 100 years. At most, if you keep your temps and voltages within reasonable amounts, you'll have to raise the voltage a little towards the end of it's life (read: 3-4 years from now when you want to upgrade for sure) to keep the same clocks, if you overclocked it a ton.

Although people SAY that you 'burn out' your chip faster.. you really don't do it quickly enough where you'll really notice. I read on an overclocking guide once where the guy had to increase the voltage after a few years in order to keep his overclock.

Now, since we don't buy CPUs thinking they'll last us any longer than 5 years.. why worry about shortening a 100 year lifespan? Just monitor your temps a little, because if you run at extremely high temperatures you might damage some of the internals on the chip which would really suck. I got a faulty 2600k which is fairly rare to begin with, and after stress testing once at 1.52v to get a 5ghz overclock, core2 just died instantly and I couldn't boot anymore without disabling all but 1 core no matter what settings. Faulty chips are very rare.

If you honestly want to keep stock clocks because you don't notice a difference then by all means do so, but if you don't mind the little bit of extra heat and power consumption in your room... then you're just getting free processing power, especially if you got a good chip.


edit: personally, I have a 2600k that I run at 1.48v at 4.7ghz when I don't mind the heat in my room, and 1.28v 4ghz when I want to keep my room cool.. it atleast FEELS like it makes a difference. I have a stable 5ghz at 1.55v aswell but I'm just not sure if I should really keep it that high.

edit2: I can use the "Slower" xsplit preset at 5ghz more smoothly than at 4, so it does matter.
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 Akusa   United States. June 11 2012 14:04. Posts 60
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On June 11 2012 11:53 MattyClutch wrote:
Overclocking is not generally going to give you a lot in Blizzard games, they don't usually go for the fences on graphics. In some games it can give you an advantage. If you are looking into overclocking you might really want to ditch that Rosewill PSU. I also hope you have some pretty decent cooling solutions for your PC and the room it is located in if you are going with that large of an OC.

There is nothing wrong with his PSU
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 nihlon   Sweden. June 11 2012 16:19. Posts 5271
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On June 11 2012 11:53 MattyClutch wrote:
Overclocking is not generally going to give you a lot in Blizzard games, they don't usually go for the fences on graphics. In some games it can give you an advantage. If you are looking into overclocking you might really want to ditch that Rosewill PSU. I also hope you have some pretty decent cooling solutions for your PC and the room it is located in if you are going with that large of an OC.

Omg, some advice in this thread... His psu is perfectly fine and that is not a high enough oc where his room temperature would even matter unless he's living in a desert.

As for the OP, you can't expect more increase than you are getting with that oc.

And CPU's are not designed to last a hundred years...
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 iKill[ShocK]   Vietnam. June 11 2012 16:38. Posts 1188
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On June 11 2012 11:53 MattyClutch wrote:
Overclocking is not generally going to give you a lot in Blizzard games, they don't usually go for the fences on graphics. In some games it can give you an advantage. If you are looking into overclocking you might really want to ditch that Rosewill PSU. I also hope you have some pretty decent cooling solutions for your PC and the room it is located in if you are going with that large of an OC.


because all psu that isnt corsair is bad amirite? It's fine.
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 Twistacles   Canada. June 11 2012 16:57. Posts 1327
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Well youre not even running demanding games... Obviously if your hardware can already run it smooth theres no point OCing.

The purpose of overclocking is for when you want to run a hard game (ie:bf3) but youre not getting smooth fps, so u bump up your clocks.
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 Nabutso   June 11 2012 17:05. Posts 351
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On June 11 2012 16:19 nihlon wrote:

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Omg, some advice in this thread... His psu is perfectly fine and that is not a high enough oc where his room temperature would even matter unless he's living in a desert.

As for the OP, you can't expect more increase than you are getting with that oc.

And CPU's are not designed to last a hundred years...


Ok fine, 150,000 hours of run-time at 22c or something like that. Either way it's a really long time.
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 reapsen   Germany. June 11 2012 17:11. Posts 421
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haha, what kind of question is that? furthermore you answered it yourself already: "only see maybe 10-15 extra FPS". There you have it.

If you tune your car with some like extra 20 horsepowers, you won't really notice if you drive around at 50 all the time. You only will notice it if you drive it to the limits.

Long story short: Overclocking is not ment to radically change your systems performance, but in fact to squeeze out exactly those 10-15 extra FPS in demanding games.

I mean.. what did you expect?
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 CatNzHat   United States. June 11 2012 17:29. Posts 1293
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Increasing CPU clock speed won't actaully affect fraps recording performance by that much, it's going to be bottlenecked either by memory bandwidth or hard drive speed. If you were using an SSD to record on, you'd see considerably better performance when recording with fraps @1080p
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 LJ   June 11 2012 20:39. Posts 203
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Overclocking can give you a boost in frame rates, but it pales in comparison to the affect the graphics card has. It could be really helpful on an older CPU which is not very powerful
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  EneMecH   United Kingdom. June 11 2012 23:58. Posts 218Profile # 
10-15 FPS is a fine increase for an overclock... bear in mind SC2 is mostly bottlenecked IF AT ALL by CPU (and yours runs very fast at 100fps extreme with fraps).

"Please help" what do you want help with? 200 fps while recording sc2 on extreme?

Yes it really helps. With my Phenom II @ 3.2 I can run sc2 ultra very nicely, with at stock 2.6 I cannot play on ultra without lag problems.

However right now I can't OC at as I've been having problems...
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 MattyClutch   United States. June 12 2012 00:29. Posts 628
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On June 11 2012 16:38 iKill[ShocK] wrote:

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because all psu that isnt corsair is bad amirite? It's fine.



Rosewill PSUs come from a variety of sources. It is entirely possible that it is ok; some are. However most of them are meh at best. It was just a suggestion. If you don't like it you are free to ignore it. *shrug*
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 Scorch   Austria. June 12 2012 00:35. Posts 2940
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Your machine ran everything perfectly before, and it runs everything even more perfectly now. You squeezed out a few more FPS. I don't know what else you expected. Did you think overclocking would magically make games have prettier graphics or something?
What? The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy.
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 MadJack   Peru. June 12 2012 01:06. Posts 271
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On June 11 2012 11:46 BlackKiller wrote:
Really so overclocking is useless for me? I m just gaming playing alot of games like Max payne 3, Counter Strike Source, Modern Warfare 3, Fifa 12, and much more. Should I underclock and take back my defualt speeds? I really dont wanna kill my lifespans for my CPU or GPU. What does overclocking benefit?


FPS require a bit more of GPU than CPU, since theres not much to be calculated anyways, unless ur playing with 30+ multiplayer maps. RTS and MOBAs require more CPU power as theres many more calculations to be done.

Anyways, Overclocking is good and getting 15-20 fps improve is what that does, its not like theres an overclocking setting that will actually double ur fps in games or something. And if u use ur computer less than 8 hours daily then the lifespan of the CPU should be around 8-10 years, overclocking just takes 1 year of those out more or less. So dont worry about overclocking unless ofc you dont have proper cooling, otherwise its completly fine

Oh, and btw, overclocking ur GPU will make it ran more efficient and faster, but wont be making the game look better, that doesnt have to do with the clocks, but with the texel rate mostly and the pixel rate.
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