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| The Irate Turk June 14 2012 00:16. Posts 192 | Profile Blog # |
On June 14 2012 00:06 trinxified wrote: Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 23:55 Daray wrote: On June 13 2012 23:30 ibreakurface wrote: On June 13 2012 06:20 FallDownMarigold wrote: People aren't crazy. For some of these people, money is no issue. Why not drop $250 for some cool computer game crap when your net worth is over $50Mil USD.
>_> Very few people have that kind of money... VERY FEW. Also, just because you're rich doesn't mean you want to waste money, and 250$ for an item in D3 is pretty much the definition of wasteful.
They don't think it's a waste, only you do. Buying an expensive watch, designer clothes, 60" TV, shiny new car... some would call those a waste of money aswell yet many people would do anything to get them. Weird right?
Actually it's not the same. Because in D3, buying the items for real money, you have a great CHANCE of getting it yourself but your chances of getting a free 60" tv, free car, free $1500 watch is not the same.
Another silly argument. People's time is worth money to them. When I go to a theme park I pay £3 to get fast track tickets whereas other people might gladly wait 2 hours to board the ride, even though it is their day off and their hourly wage is clearly > £6. People just mess up the calculations because they have some entrenched (and sub-optimal) beliefs on what they feel they are prepared to spend their disposable income onLast edit: 2012-06-14 00:18:37 |
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| thelok June 14 2012 00:18. Posts 29 | Profile # |
| Sold a 23$ (Kymbo's Gold 100 str 100vit 8% life and life leech lengendary amulet) and 14$ (75 dex 75 vit 45+ resist all belt) item so far. |
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| CubEdIn Romania. June 14 2012 00:18. Posts 5128 | Profile Blog # |
Also, when you buy a TV or w/e it's a materialistic desire fulfilled, and you'll have it for a long time (unless you break it or w/e), if you buy a neat stormshield for your barb, you'll only be... say 10% tankier, which is only a slight improvement in your game.
I'd understand if people wanted to pay $250 for ez farming inferno, but $250 an item will not make you 2x better/stronger no matter what that item is. Sure, to whoever can afford it and really wants said item, it might be "worth it", but don't try to justify it by comparing to TVs and cars, that's just stupid.
Also, paying $250 for an item now actually IS stupid, since it's pretty freaking clear that they will drop in price in the next few days. I don't know how you could make profit off something like that unless you're selling it further for more.Last edit: 2012-06-14 00:19:47 |
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| The Irate Turk June 14 2012 00:20. Posts 192 | Profile Blog # |
On June 14 2012 00:18 CubEdIn wrote: Also, when you buy a TV or w/e it's a materialistic desire fulfilled, and you'll have it for a long time (unless you break it or w/e), if you buy a neat stormshield for your barb, you'll only be... say 10% tankier, which bearly shows in the game.
I'd understand if people wanted to pay $250 for ez farming inferno, but $250 an item will not make you 2x better/stronger no matter what that item is. Sure, to whoever can afford it and really wants said item, it might be "worth it", but don't try to justify it by comparing to TVs and cars, that's just stupid.
Also, paying $250 for an item now actually IS stupid, since it's pretty freaking clear that they will drop in price in the next few days. I don't know how you could make profit off something like that unless you're selling it further for more.
It doesn't matter at all. There are enough people in the world with a net worth over £10,000,000 to whom £250 doesn't mean a god damn thing. It isn't stupid at all.
That's like me calling you stupid for not spending your spare time out of work patrolling the streets looking for pennies to pick up. |
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| Daray June 14 2012 00:20. Posts 2829 | Profile # |
On June 14 2012 00:06 trinxified wrote: Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 23:55 Daray wrote: On June 13 2012 23:30 ibreakurface wrote: On June 13 2012 06:20 FallDownMarigold wrote: People aren't crazy. For some of these people, money is no issue. Why not drop $250 for some cool computer game crap when your net worth is over $50Mil USD.
>_> Very few people have that kind of money... VERY FEW. Also, just because you're rich doesn't mean you want to waste money, and 250$ for an item in D3 is pretty much the definition of wasteful.
They don't think it's a waste, only you do. Buying an expensive watch, designer clothes, 60" TV, shiny new car... some would call those a waste of money aswell yet many people would do anything to get them. Weird right?
Actually it's not the same. Because in D3, buying the items for real money, you have a great CHANCE of getting it yourself but your chances of getting a free 60" tv, free car, free $1500 watch is not the same.
No, you don't have a great chance of getting an equivalent item to drop, actually your chance of getting an equivalent item is so small that you might never get it in your lifetime of playing D3. You're using your time to farm the item but doing some extra hours in a paid job will get you the item so so much faster or you might only have a few hours to play each week so you won't get many good items anyway.
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| RaiZ France. June 14 2012 00:22. Posts 2504 | Profile Blog # |
On June 14 2012 00:06 trinxified wrote: Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 23:55 Daray wrote: On June 13 2012 23:30 ibreakurface wrote: On June 13 2012 06:20 FallDownMarigold wrote: People aren't crazy. For some of these people, money is no issue. Why not drop $250 for some cool computer game crap when your net worth is over $50Mil USD.
>_> Very few people have that kind of money... VERY FEW. Also, just because you're rich doesn't mean you want to waste money, and 250$ for an item in D3 is pretty much the definition of wasteful.
They don't think it's a waste, only you do. Buying an expensive watch, designer clothes, 60" TV, shiny new car... some would call those a waste of money aswell yet many people would do anything to get them. Weird right?
Actually it's not the same. Because in D3, buying the items for real money, you have a great CHANCE of getting it yourself but your chances of getting a free 60" tv, free car, free $1500 watch is not the same.
What ? Let me translate it for you :
Actually it's not the same. Because IRL, buying items like TV, car, 1500$ watch for real money, you have a great CHANCE of getting it yourself (I know, right ?) but your chances of getting a free legendary item is not the same.
Your argument just doesn't make sense.
I think i could say you have as many chances as winning a plasma TV as rolling the perfect specific legendary item. |
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| Rotodyne United States. June 14 2012 00:24. Posts 2163 | Profile Blog # |
| Oh god I should have played more -_- |
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| Heh_ Singapore. June 14 2012 00:25. Posts 2245 | Profile Blog # |
On June 14 2012 00:06 trinxified wrote: Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 23:55 Daray wrote: On June 13 2012 23:30 ibreakurface wrote: On June 13 2012 06:20 FallDownMarigold wrote: People aren't crazy. For some of these people, money is no issue. Why not drop $250 for some cool computer game crap when your net worth is over $50Mil USD.
>_> Very few people have that kind of money... VERY FEW. Also, just because you're rich doesn't mean you want to waste money, and 250$ for an item in D3 is pretty much the definition of wasteful.
They don't think it's a waste, only you do. Buying an expensive watch, designer clothes, 60" TV, shiny new car... some would call those a waste of money aswell yet many people would do anything to get them. Weird right?
Actually it's not the same. Because in D3, buying the items for real money, you have a great CHANCE of getting it yourself but your chances of getting a free 60" tv, free car, free $1500 watch is not the same.
It's called the lottery. |
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| Glacierz United States. June 14 2012 00:29. Posts 467 | Profile Blog # |
| Just sold a random piece of gear (don't even remember what it was) for $50. Prices are still inflated. Liquidating all my gear while demand lasts! |
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| Daray June 14 2012 00:33. Posts 2829 | Profile # |
On June 14 2012 00:18 CubEdIn wrote: Also, when you buy a TV or w/e it's a materialistic desire fulfilled, and you'll have it for a long time (unless you break it or w/e), if you buy a neat stormshield for your barb, you'll only be... say 10% tankier, which is only a slight improvement in your game.
Im pretty sure it's the same thing when getting a new item for your character. The fact that how long it'll last has nothing to do with it.
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| CubEdIn Romania. June 14 2012 00:41. Posts 5128 | Profile Blog # |
It doesn't matter at all. There are enough people in the world with a net worth over £10,000,000 to whom £250 doesn't mean a god damn thing. It isn't stupid at all.
That's like me calling you stupid for not spending your spare time out of work patrolling the streets looking for pennies to pick up.
I'm not calling you stupid, I said comparing it to buying a TV or a car is stupid, because it doesn't have nearly the end result. I guess it would be ok if you compared moving from something like a 59" TV to a 60" TV with nearly the same specs.
Also, I know that there are people in the world with a net worth over 10 million. I'm pretty sure 99% of them have better things to do in their spare time than grinding Diablo. I'm also quite sure, based on the way that the few (very) rich people I know are usually behaving, that they would consider paying $250 on an item in diablo, a WASTE of money. Because people who got rich, didn't get so by throwing away money on something that will cost 20% of that in less than 1 week.
I'm guessing that people who spent this kind of money are either rich kids (actually, my boss' kid used to waste hundreds of dollars in a flash game when he was 8), or avid gamers who think it will yield a profit somehow. Not a millionaire coming home, throwing his briefcase on the floor and jumping on Diablo 3 AH.
On June 14 2012 00:33 Daray wrote: Show nested quote +On June 14 2012 00:18 CubEdIn wrote: Also, when you buy a TV or w/e it's a materialistic desire fulfilled, and you'll have it for a long time (unless you break it or w/e), if you buy a neat stormshield for your barb, you'll only be... say 10% tankier, which is only a slight improvement in your game.
Im pretty sure it's the same thing when getting a new item for your character. The fact that how long it'll last has nothing to do with it.
Actually, the very definition of "materialistic" makes it not be the same thing. I know what you're saying, but if you ever bought an expensive item off the AH and saw how little difference it makes in your gameplay (under 10% probably), you'll know what I mean.  |
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| NeWeNiyaLord Norway. June 14 2012 00:41. Posts 2464 | Profile Blog # |
| How do you guys do RMAH? I can't switch currencies. Sais it's available the 15th/06/12 :S |
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| FliedLice Germany. June 14 2012 00:43. Posts 6475 | Profile Blog # |
On June 14 2012 00:41 NeWeNiyaLord wrote: How do you guys do RMAH? I can't switch currencies. Sais it's available the 15th/06/12 :S
It's only out in the US. |
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| Mysticesper United States. June 14 2012 00:44. Posts 911 | Profile # |
| Sold some random Offhand for 10 dollars, lol. |
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| The Irate Turk June 14 2012 00:44. Posts 192 | Profile Blog # |
On June 14 2012 00:41 CubEdIn wrote: Show nested quote + It doesn't matter at all. There are enough people in the world with a net worth over £10,000,000 to whom £250 doesn't mean a god damn thing. It isn't stupid at all.
That's like me calling you stupid for not spending your spare time out of work patrolling the streets looking for pennies to pick up.
I'm not calling you stupid, I said comparing it to buying a TV or a car is stupid, because it doesn't have nearly the end result. I guess it would be ok if you compared moving from something like a 59" TV to a 60" TV with nearly the same specs. Also, I know that there are people in the world with a net worth over 10 million. I'm pretty sure 99% of them have better things to do in their spare time than grinding Diablo. I'm also quite sure, based on the way that the few (very) rich people I know are usually behaving, that they would consider paying $250 on an item in diablo, a WASTE of money. Because people who got rich, didn't get so by throwing away money on something that will cost 20% of that in less than 1 week. I'm guessing that people who spent this kind of money are either rich kids (actually, my boss' kid used to waste hundreds of dollars in a flash game when he was 8), or avid gamers who think it will yield a profit somehow. Not a millionaire coming home, throwing his briefcase on the floor and jumping on Diablo 3 AH. Show nested quote +On June 14 2012 00:33 Daray wrote: On June 14 2012 00:18 CubEdIn wrote: Also, when you buy a TV or w/e it's a materialistic desire fulfilled, and you'll have it for a long time (unless you break it or w/e), if you buy a neat stormshield for your barb, you'll only be... say 10% tankier, which is only a slight improvement in your game.
Im pretty sure it's the same thing when getting a new item for your character. The fact that how long it'll last has nothing to do with it.
Actually, the very definition of "materialistic" makes it not be the same thing. I know what you're saying, but if you ever bought an expensive item off the AH and saw how little difference it makes in your gameplay (under 10% probably), you'll know what I mean. 
FWIW I didn't want my words to be misconstrued to mean that you are stupid either <3
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| Daray June 14 2012 00:50. Posts 2829 | Profile # |
On June 14 2012 00:41 CubEdIn wrote: Show nested quote +On June 14 2012 00:33 Daray wrote: On June 14 2012 00:18 CubEdIn wrote: Also, when you buy a TV or w/e it's a materialistic desire fulfilled, and you'll have it for a long time (unless you break it or w/e), if you buy a neat stormshield for your barb, you'll only be... say 10% tankier, which is only a slight improvement in your game.
Im pretty sure it's the same thing when getting a new item for your character. The fact that how long it'll last has nothing to do with it.
Actually, the very definition of "materialistic" makes it not be the same thing. I know what you're saying, but if you ever bought an expensive item off the AH and saw how little difference it makes in your gameplay (under 10% probably), you'll know what I mean. 
I don't know man. Is there a difference in owning stuff in the virtual world? |
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| Rimstalker Germany. June 14 2012 00:52. Posts 423 | Profile # |
just throwing that in here for the 'who on earth would spend 250 bucks on gear'
http://tywkiwdbi.blogspot.de/2011/11/how-to-make-200000-year.html
quoting a bit from that article:
MANDURAH, Australia—One of the fastest-growing costs in the global mining industry are workers like James Dinnison: the 25-year-old high-school dropout from Western Australia makes $200,000 a year running drills in underground mines to extract gold and other minerals.
The heavily tattooed Mr. Dinnison, who started in the mines seven years ago earning $100,000, owns a sky-blue 2009 Chevy Ute, which cost $55,000 before a $16,000 engine enhancement, and a $44,000 custom motorcycle. The price tag on his chihuahua, Dexter, which yaps at his feet: $1,200.Last edit: 2012-06-14 00:53:27 |
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| CubEdIn Romania. June 14 2012 00:57. Posts 5128 | Profile Blog # |
On June 14 2012 00:50 Daray wrote: Show nested quote +On June 14 2012 00:41 CubEdIn wrote: On June 14 2012 00:33 Daray wrote: On June 14 2012 00:18 CubEdIn wrote: Also, when you buy a TV or w/e it's a materialistic desire fulfilled, and you'll have it for a long time (unless you break it or w/e), if you buy a neat stormshield for your barb, you'll only be... say 10% tankier, which is only a slight improvement in your game.
Im pretty sure it's the same thing when getting a new item for your character. The fact that how long it'll last has nothing to do with it.
Actually, the very definition of "materialistic" makes it not be the same thing. I know what you're saying, but if you ever bought an expensive item off the AH and saw how little difference it makes in your gameplay (under 10% probably), you'll know what I mean. 
I don't know man. Is there a difference in owning stuff in the virtual world?
Yes and no. But that's not what I am debating.
I am simply saying that changing ONE item on your character will not improve your game dramatically. Even if it's an insanely high dps/loh weapon, you will still not beat the game 10x as easy because you purchased that one holy item. Let's be honest, if you're struggling with act 1, a stromshield will do little to nothing to help you. If you're doing OK in act 4, and a high dps/loh weap is what you need to solo diablo, then you're probably doing FAIRLY WELL with gold to be able to purchase that on your own.
So that leaves us where? You either buy it to make a profit, which is unlikely at $250+, or you're buying it because you're from a family with a lot of money, that won't mind you going into $1000 to pimp up your video game.
That being said, there is no possible market for such prices. There just isn't. There aren't THAT MANY people who will spend hundreds of dollars on items for D3, and that is being CLEARLY proven right now, you can watch the item prices drop by the hour.
So with the above in mind, I CAN say that spending $250+ on an item right now is stupid, unless you can sell it on ebay for 705eur later.  Last edit: 2012-06-14 00:59:38 |
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| The Irate Turk June 14 2012 01:04. Posts 192 | Profile Blog # |
1 item would make a huge difference to me right now. If I had a billion dollars I'd buy a socketed 2h xbow with 1700 dps because it's 700 dps more and 200 higher than the second highest NON socketed I've ever seen. So yes, I would buy that for £250 if it was what I fancied doing and had the money.
But the (SC) game is dead and I'm cashing out on the 15th |
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| CubEdIn Romania. June 14 2012 01:09. Posts 5128 | Profile Blog # |
On June 14 2012 01:04 The Irate Turk wrote: 1 item would make a huge difference to me right now. If I had a billion dollars I'd buy a socketed 2h xbow with 1700 dps because it's 700 dps more and 200 higher than the second highest NON socketed I've ever seen. So yes, I would buy that for £250 if it was what I fancied doing and had the money.
But the (SC) game is dead and I'm cashing out on the 15th
It would make a big difference, I believe you, but you would still have huge issues with some elites that would one-shot you. I have a friend who is a DH and he has a wicked bow that was 20M a month ago, and he still gets bopped on the head sometimes in act 3/4 by some mobs.
And can you honestly say that if you HAD $500 to spend on items on D3 right now, you would not wait a couple of days to buy at least 5-10 great items instead of 1-2?? |
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