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| Acrofales Brazil. July 02 2012 18:15. Posts 5194 | Profile # |
Just saw I posted as kingdedede. Kingdedede is me (SSB game).
Also, ET is making sense and people should listen to him. ET, what do you think of Vivax and layabout? |
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| EchelonTee United States. July 02 2012 18:17. Posts 3403 | Profile # |
On July 02 2012 18:15 drwiggl3s wrote: Whether or not Mattchew is scum is up for interpretation. But one thing that isn't, is that if we lynch him, and he turns as scum, then that will net us the most information. More then any other lynch that could be made right now.
?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!!?!?
you don't even sort of believe he is scum yet you want to kill him? oh my god....................... |
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| drwiggl3s Canada. July 02 2012 18:19. Posts 162 | Profile # |
That's fine. Come up with a better vote then Mattchew, and I'd love to hear it. Anything that involves voting for a lurker, a noob, a troll, or whatever, is not one I'm interested when we can vote for someone who absolutely loves to spur confusion, and band wagoning, as well as soft defending someone I believe is scum (bkexe).
If we lynch Mattchew, it will give us the most possible information that a lynch can give us.
That's the point I'm making here. |
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| EchelonTee United States. July 02 2012 18:20. Posts 3403 | Profile # |
On July 02 2012 18:15 Acrofales wrote: Just saw I posted as kingdedede. Kingdedede is me (SSB game).
Also, ET is making sense and people should listen to him. ET, what do you think of Vivax and layabout?
Funny that you mention layabout, because I thought that it was odd that he said "move foxtrot up the kill list", but was completely AWOL for the switch. It seems like something that he would've liked to get moving if he believed foxtrot to be scum, since it was clear BKE was not going to be lynched. Need to do a re-read of him tomorrow. He feels odd, but layabout often posts sort of scummy (citation, TL LII jubjub).
Vivax is more curious; while I disagree with a lot of his logic, I still have him in the null category because a lot of his reactions can be explained from a townie perspective.
I'm actually sleeping. Acro, I really hope your buddying is coming from a good place because I could really use it atm.
Tell me what you think of s0Lstice? |
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| drwiggl3s Canada. July 02 2012 18:20. Posts 162 | Profile # |
I believe Mattchew is scum. I thought that was clear from my earlier posts.
@ Acrofales, I have no clue how you can say ET Is making sense here. All he's doing is trying to shut down our suspicions, and here you are trying to branch onto a completely different topic. |
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| drwiggl3s Canada. July 02 2012 18:22. Posts 162 | Profile # |
In this thread, mafia supporting mafia in misguiding train of thought that will lead to lynching mafia.
I'm done here for now. If your town, please read and consider my posts. |
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| Acrofales Brazil. July 02 2012 18:26. Posts 5194 | Profile # |
I have subtly hinted twice now that I think your topic of discussion is WIFOM central and going nowhere really fast. Of COURSE I want to change its direction.
1. Mattchew wasn't the driving factor behind the Fox lynch 2. Mattchew is a good player. If he's scum, there will be scum on his list and a priori assuming everybody is town is bullshit. 3. Assuming there's scum motives for moving off BKE ignores most of what happened in D1. BKE was starting to post coherently. The case against him is based on his very early actions and his lack of scumhunting. I think we should give him a chance to rectify that second and see what he comes up with. In general, connection cases are TERRIBLE until you flip a scum and can actually connect to a confirmed scum.
ET was pointing this out, therefore he was making sense. Stopping town from wifom'ing themselves in circles is NOT bad play. |
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| Acrofales Brazil. July 02 2012 18:29. Posts 5194 | Profile # |
On July 02 2012 18:20 EchelonTee wrote: Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 18:15 Acrofales wrote: Just saw I posted as kingdedede. Kingdedede is me (SSB game).
Also, ET is making sense and people should listen to him. ET, what do you think of Vivax and layabout?
Funny that you mention layabout, because I thought that it was odd that he said "move foxtrot up the kill list", but was completely AWOL for the switch. It seems like something that he would've liked to get moving if he believed foxtrot to be scum, since it was clear BKE was not going to be lynched. Need to do a re-read of him tomorrow. He feels odd, but layabout often posts sort of scummy (citation, TL LII jubjub). Vivax is more curious; while I disagree with a lot of his logic, I still have him in the null category because a lot of his reactions can be explained from a townie perspective. I'm actually sleeping. Acro, I really hope your buddying is coming from a good place because I could really use it atm. Tell me what you think of s0Lstice?
I am cautiously leaning town on him. He made some good contributions in D1. Also
On July 02 2012 08:30 s0Lstice wrote: @marv--Yea I did that already. I'm not voting for someone until I read their shit myself, recently.
I'm not sure that one post makes him more scummy than mK, but it certainly doesn't look great. Our problem if we want to switch is there are 7 votes on BKE right now. If those people aren't here to switch, it's possible he will be the guy if we get off mK. That I don't like at all.
indicates a pro-active attitude in scumhunting, which I like. Why you asking me for my townreads at night?  |
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| drwiggl3s Canada. July 02 2012 18:32. Posts 162 | Profile # |
You guys talking about "rereading" someone later. About who you have "feelings" about. Are these not just walking the thread in circles?
1. He WAS a driving factor behind the Fox lynch. Him putting Fox on his list spurred the push to have Fox lynched.
2. This is possible, but if he was scum before, and made a list before, don't you read his making a list again as a possible tell that he could be scum again? Do you not agree that lynching him would give us the most information possible? and would be a good lynch, despite how strong your "reads" may feel to you?
3. The case on him, is that he was defended, softly, by a few people when he was put in hot water. Where as mkmkmk and FT (confirmed town now) were both not defended at all, yet had people bandwaggoning them like crazy (the same people who soft defended bkexe).
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| casualman United States. July 02 2012 18:38. Posts 886 | Profile # |
| I propose no talking during the night |
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| drwiggl3s Canada. July 02 2012 18:39. Posts 162 | Profile # |
And now here you two are, defending Mattchew. Providing no real content in your posts. Just trying to move the topic of discussion off it's point.
In this thread, mafia supporting mafia in misguiding train of thought that will lead to lynching mafia. |
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| drwiggl3s Canada. July 02 2012 18:42. Posts 162 | Profile # |
On July 02 2012 18:38 casualman wrote: I propose no talking during the night
I'd agree if I wasn't so sure that this thread will be spammed up with mafia posting about their "reads" and "leans" and etc. while ignoring the main point being made here.
I'll have to settle in for the night and return to this in the morning. If your town, read what was said here. |
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| Mandalor Germany. July 02 2012 18:47. Posts 2164 | Profile Blog # |
I just want to clarify a few things on my position on drwiggl3s: I think the doctor is a townie. I don't agree that mattchew's list is necessarily all town. I don't think ET is scum. If mattchew is indeed scum, that will obviously raise some suspicion on him, but he's a very constructive poster. I don't agree with a lot of his views, but he just doesn't seem to be counterproductive in his actions. I think killing mattchew is a good idea, but I don't think it's going to happen. I still think BKE is scum. |
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| Acrofales Brazil. July 02 2012 18:52. Posts 5194 | Profile # |
Okay, lets do it your way. Lets assume mK is town and BKE and Mattchew are scum.
At the time the Fox lynch was proposed mK was set to be lynched, at 10 votes to 7. What reason does a scum Mattchew or Marvellosity have to push forward another townie to be sacrificed? It actually increased the chances of scumbuddy BKE getting lynched. This makes NO SENSE.
When you can explain how your reasoning works, I may be willing to listen to you.
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| Acrofales Brazil. July 02 2012 18:55. Posts 5194 | Profile # |
On July 02 2012 18:42 drwiggl3s wrote:I'd agree if I wasn't so sure that this thread will be spammed up with mafia posting about their "reads" and "leans" and etc. while ignoring the main point being made here. I'll have to settle in for the night and return to this in the morning. If your town, read what was said here.
Lol. Reverse wifom! Scum is known to be quiet during the night. So to switch it up, they will be active and promote discussion by scumhunting during the night, just so town gets confused and thinks scum is town and town is scum!
/facepalm.
No talking during the night is a bad idea. Not giving town reads during the night is generally a good idea (one that I have quite rigorously broken already). However, posting ass-backwards wifom is never a good idea, night OR day. |
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| Mandalor Germany. July 02 2012 18:55. Posts 2164 | Profile Blog # |
On July 02 2012 18:52 Acrofales wrote: Okay, lets do it your way. Lets assume mK is town and BKE and Mattchew are scum.
At the time the Fox lynch was proposed mK was set to be lynched, at 10 votes to 7. What reason does a scum Mattchew or Marvellosity have to push forward another townie to be sacrificed? It actually increased the chances of scumbuddy BKE getting lynched. This makes NO SENSE.
When you can explain how your reasoning works, I may be willing to listen to you.
I think you're talking to vivax, but I'm gonna answer this for myself: Possible modkill of mK.
If mK is town and inactive, there's a chance he will be modkilled and mafia could get two kills in pretty much one day by swaying the public opinion to another townie. |
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| Acrofales Brazil. July 02 2012 18:56. Posts 5194 | Profile # |
On July 02 2012 18:49 Vivax wrote:Poor poor acrofales. Posting such a huge case and then he gets zero attention for it    I'll give you some: Get your things straight, thinking I'd be mafia is ridiculous.Let's string up people for the FT mislynch.I told you the cases against him were bullshit and more of a policy lynch than anything else. That said, marv, I don't see you drawing conclusions after his death, but you criticisized mine before his death for being premature. You contribute zero to town except for causing bandwagons, and your posts are numerous, but not helpful. I'll anticipate what I'm gonna do day2. ##Vote marvellosity
Don't worry, I'll push it when people start waking up. DrWiggl3s burying it in spam is not making you look any better either. |
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| Vivax Italy. July 02 2012 18:57. Posts 3779 | Profile Blog # |
On July 02 2012 18:56 Acrofales wrote: Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 18:49 Vivax wrote:Poor poor acrofales. Posting such a huge case and then he gets zero attention for it    I'll give you some: Get your things straight, thinking I'd be mafia is ridiculous.Let's string up people for the FT mislynch.I told you the cases against him were bullshit and more of a policy lynch than anything else. That said, marv, I don't see you drawing conclusions after his death, but you criticisized mine before his death for being premature. You contribute zero to town except for causing bandwagons, and your posts are numerous, but not helpful. I'll anticipate what I'm gonna do day2. ##Vote marvellosity
Don't worry, I'll push it when people start waking up. DrWiggl3s burying it in spam is not making you look any better either.
Ok, kingdede.
Why don't you keep pushing your BM policy lynch like day 1? You seem to have a lot of backup from people like VE. |
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| Acrofales Brazil. July 02 2012 18:58. Posts 5194 | Profile # |
On July 02 2012 18:55 Mandalor wrote: Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 18:52 Acrofales wrote: Okay, lets do it your way. Lets assume mK is town and BKE and Mattchew are scum.
At the time the Fox lynch was proposed mK was set to be lynched, at 10 votes to 7. What reason does a scum Mattchew or Marvellosity have to push forward another townie to be sacrificed? It actually increased the chances of scumbuddy BKE getting lynched. This makes NO SENSE.
When you can explain how your reasoning works, I may be willing to listen to you.
I think you're talking to vivax, but I'm gonna answer this for myself: Possible modkill of mK. If mK is town and inactive, there's a chance he will be modkilled and mafia could get two kills in pretty much one day by swaying the public opinion to another townie.
Was talking to wiggl3s, but your answer is fine. Hadn't thought of that. It sounds like a hell of a lot of effort (and risk) to put into getting an extra townie killed. At least it's plausible tho.
Now, other than the late addition of a townie to Mattchew's list of death, mind making a case that isn't connection-based with BKE until we, you know, flip BKE as scum? |
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