| Knutzi Norway. June 13 2012 13:59. Posts 662 | Profile # |
| wish someone would have asked why carrier is pretty much the only unit that have been complained about since release yet they never even tried to patch it. |
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| neoghaleon55 United States. June 13 2012 13:59. Posts 6195 | Profile Blog # |
I love how wax just cracked up when DK said "hurting esports"
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| TheRavensName United States. June 13 2012 14:00. Posts 870 | Profile # |
| I've seen more Carriers then Battle Cruisers sense I think SC2 hit beta... and they want to remove the Carrier because its useless? I've atleast seen people win. Even in TvT, the only match up you really see the BC, its just kinda wiped out unless you rush it earlier verse a guy with only marines.... |
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| FabledIntegral United States. June 13 2012 14:00. Posts 8375 | Profile Blog # |
Bah, I wasn't a fan of the questions asked or how they were asked, they didn't really seem to get the actual opinions of the community out there.
But even more so I'm incredibly discouraged with how Blizzard is approaching things. Seems awful to me, I've heard Browder speak before and he has too much of a "what I envision" rather than what the community wants. I mean, he didn't even know BW well. Ugh...
And NP on mothership is definitely a huge issue. If you get it off successfully usually the game will instantly win for the Zerg. |
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| xTrim June 13 2012 14:01. Posts 471 | Profile # | |
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| HeroMystic United States. June 13 2012 14:01. Posts 894 | Profile # |
On June 13 2012 14:00 TheRavensName wrote:
I've seen more Carriers then Battle Cruisers sense I think SC2 hit beta... and they want to remove the Carrier because its useless? I've atleast seen people win. Even in TvT, the only match up you really see the BC, its just kinda wiped out unless you rush it earlier verse a guy with only marines....
There's been a helluva lot more Battlecrusiers than Carriers. They're pretty legit in TvP as well with Ghost support. |
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| KenZo- Hong Kong. June 13 2012 14:01. Posts 179 | Profile # |
maybe he should look at the TOP tier ZvT in the GSL lately statistics.. oh well good interview. Thanks  |
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| rd United States. June 13 2012 14:03. Posts 2067 | Profile # |
Disappointing there was no follow up to Dustin Browder's comment about carriers. He generalizes the entire debate. Ignoring the arguments many brought up, and the general reasons they want to remove the carrier are based off incorrect facts. I'm not sure which community he listens to, cause they chime the same argument in unison. Made me sad and cynical again of Blizzard. 
David Kim interview was pretty interesting. I'm glad it was much longer.Last edit: 2012-06-13 14:04:18 |
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| Wampaibist United States. June 13 2012 14:05. Posts 413 | Profile # |
| I really liked wax's interview with david kim. |
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| FabledIntegral United States. June 13 2012 14:06. Posts 8375 | Profile Blog # |
On June 13 2012 13:52 AzureD wrote:Why does almost no one use Banelings + Infested Terrans to counter Archon toilets? I don't understand this.
Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 13:47 ktimekiller wrote:
ROFL Dustin is not aware of the Mothership in ZvP
Freaking pathetic awareness of his own game hes designing (ruining)
Here we have an example of hearing what you want to hear. People want to find faults in people to justify their prejudices.
IT can be good but the issue is that you'll still lose all your BL to archons, then toss just sacks his archons. Now what? You have no energy on your infestors - they're taking up supply, and if toss remaxes on something you're boned. You have to be careful with teh energy, and it's not like Toss throws their entire army into the toilet. It's meant to get the Zerg army coupled with Toss archons, and some blink stalkers. That's it. Which is also why banes, which are fickle due to storm and colossi being in play, are also not used. You going to throw in banes to do splash dmg to archons? It' snot like the banes get to hit every unit in the toilet - archons only work because they're so good vs the air. Also, vortex is used to phase out certain units from a battle as well, not just for the toilet. |
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 SurvivorMMA United States. June 13 2012 14:06. Posts 14 | Profile # |
| Battle Hellions are so boring |
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| SarcasmMonster June 13 2012 14:07. Posts 2897 | Profile # |
I think overall, Blizz is a little too optimistic about WOL. It's a great game, but it does have many flaws.
From the sounds of it in the interview, they are building HOTS around/over these flaws rather than doing the gutsy move and fixing them on the spot. |
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| Belha Italy. June 13 2012 14:07. Posts 2361 | Profile # |
Just listen the interview with Dustin. Not as impressive as the 2011 one.
On the other hand, i enjoyed a LOT the interview with Grubby. Kinda sad to see that indeed Sc2 is a bit coinflippy even at higher levels u.u
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| CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr June 13 2012 14:08. Posts 544 | Profile # |
On June 13 2012 14:01 HeroMystic wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 14:00 TheRavensName wrote:
I've seen more Carriers then Battle Cruisers sense I think SC2 hit beta... and they want to remove the Carrier because its useless? I've atleast seen people win. Even in TvT, the only match up you really see the BC, its just kinda wiped out unless you rush it earlier verse a guy with only marines....
There's been a helluva lot more Battlecrusiers than Carriers. They're pretty legit in TvP as well with Ghost support.
Carriers are the ultimate units PvZ so u know. kinda ignorant, really sad ppl have to go to the game developpers and tell them their units are actually used in the gsl, wonder when they watch it, since they do so much... |
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| SarcasmMonster June 13 2012 14:08. Posts 2897 | Profile # |
I think overall, Blizz is a little too optimistic about WOL. It's a great game, but it does have many flaws.
From the sounds of it in the interview, they are building HOTS around/over these flaws rather than doing the gutsy move and fixing them at the source.
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| Goldfish June 13 2012 14:13. Posts 2022 | Profile Blog # |
I think they're actually replacing the Archon Toilet with something stronger against Zerg. Stasis Field against air units. If all air units are negated than the Protoss can just a-move and kill all the ground units (as the current zerg ground units aren't as strong). Once Stasis Field wears off, the air units will then be easy to deal with (not sure how big the radius/range on Stasis Field is on the HotS Mothership though). Though, we'll see how it goes.
Also this is good game on how Zero dealt with an attempt at an Archon Toilet (he split up his BL and put them under a group of spines).
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Of course in sudden engagements where you just notice the Protoss army moving out, it will be sort of a coinflip to see who wins (whether the Vortex will miss or you can NP before Vortex hits).
I know that in HotS, Hydralisk / Viper / Swarm Host (at least from that Battle Report) seem to be really effective late game. They said they wanted the older unit compositions to still work but it seems the new Mothership ability is actually stronger than the Archon Toilet (again, I don't know the range of Stasis Field but being able to Stasis all air units to divide the army seem really strong).Last edit: 2012-06-13 14:15:37 |
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| larse June 13 2012 14:14. Posts 998 | Profile # |
| The best part of the David Kim interview is at 24:00, when he talks about why they introduce two 1-A units to Terran and two not-1-A units to Protoss. Smart thing they did there. I was intensively criticizing the warhound and battlehellion, and I didn't see their intention is kinda legit in some way. |
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| Teriyaki-Boy United States. June 13 2012 14:15. Posts 26 | Profile # |
| As much as the 22 range tempest sound cool and all but it just an A-move unit nothing special about it. The carrier on the other hand has potential, if they actually fix the way carrier are suppose to function and with carrier you can actually micro them, which mean is more fun to used.CARRIER>>>TEMPEST |
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| NGrNecris New Zealand. June 13 2012 14:16. Posts 651 | Profile # |
| haha david kim giving terrans the "protoss playstyle" refusing to say deathball |
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| Irave United States. June 13 2012 14:18. Posts 7907 | Profile # |
| Great interviews they turned out well. David Kim seems like an alright guy. |
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