| Fragile51 Netherlands. June 17 2012 05:21. Posts 15572 | Profile # |
On June 17 2012 02:32 Noruxas wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 10:29 WigglingSquid wrote:
On June 16 2012 10:25 naux wrote:
New rumor Genius is in talks with fnatic at the moment.
[Citation needed].
"Hello! Im Genius, and Im talking with fnatic!!!" Its true.
Seeeeeeems legit. |
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| -Celestial- United Kingdom. June 17 2012 08:53. Posts 793 | Profile # |
On June 16 2012 10:25 naux wrote:
New rumor Genius is in talks with fnatic at the moment.
If he goes to fnatic they literally instantly become my new favourite team. Oz and Genius on the same team? :D |
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| wideye United States. June 17 2012 10:57. Posts 208 | Profile # |
| so do the foreign teams just pay more? |
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| Inhumane Canada. June 17 2012 11:00. Posts 144 | Profile # |
On June 17 2012 10:57 wideye wrote:
so do the foreign teams just pay more?
Foreign teams tend to have bigger sponsors, or simply MORE sponsors, so they have the ability to pay more. |
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| Kluey Canada. June 17 2012 11:07. Posts 1167 | Profile # |
On June 17 2012 10:57 wideye wrote:
so do the foreign teams just pay more?
The pay isn't the biggest thing for them I think because the team will pay them like 1k a month which is infinitely better than nothing. The free travel to foreign events is amazing and the real attraction for Koreans. |
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| stew_ Canada. June 17 2012 11:09. Posts 232 | Profile # |
On June 17 2012 11:00 Inhumane wrote:Foreign teams tend to have bigger sponsors, or simply MORE sponsors, so they have the ability to pay more.
i think that's only the gsl teams... im pretty sure the proleague teams have huge salaries |
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| Inhumane Canada. June 17 2012 11:13. Posts 144 | Profile # |
On June 17 2012 11:09 stew_ wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 11:00 Inhumane wrote:
On June 17 2012 10:57 wideye wrote:
so do the foreign teams just pay more?
Foreign teams tend to have bigger sponsors, or simply MORE sponsors, so they have the ability to pay more.
i think that's only the gsl teams... im pretty sure the proleague teams have huge salaries
Oh, well yes, of course. I didn't realize we were at the point where we are including the KeSPA teams now when we discuss Foreign teams vs. Korean teams. |
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| jmbthirteen United States. June 17 2012 11:16. Posts 9623 | Profile Blog # |
On June 17 2012 11:09 stew_ wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 11:00 Inhumane wrote:
On June 17 2012 10:57 wideye wrote:
so do the foreign teams just pay more?
Foreign teams tend to have bigger sponsors, or simply MORE sponsors, so they have the ability to pay more.
i think that's only the gsl teams... im pretty sure the proleague teams have huge salaries
huge salaries for the star players. I'm not sure what the average salary is though.
And its a bit too soon to bring up Kespa teams as they can't sign current sc2 pro's for a year. |
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| Dodgin Canada. June 17 2012 11:28. Posts 25331 | Profile # |
| I know some Korean sc2 teams pay salary, like TSL and IM, not sure if there are any others. |
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 polyphonyEX United States. June 17 2012 11:37. Posts 2539 | Profile # |
On June 17 2012 08:53 Lightspeaker wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 10:25 naux wrote:
New rumor Genius is in talks with fnatic at the moment.
If he goes to fnatic they literally instantly become my new favourite team. Oz and Genius on the same team? :D
Are you telling me that they aren't already your favorite team?
Fnatic owning! |
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| darkness Bulgaria. June 17 2012 13:41. Posts 2670 | Profile Blog # |
On June 16 2012 10:25 naux wrote:
New rumor Genius is in talks with fnatic at the moment.
Thank god it's not EG. It's just not funny if EG is on constant hunt to buy players. No hatred here, it's just not good for fans imho.Last edit: 2012-06-17 13:42:13 |
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| ninjamyst United States. June 17 2012 13:50. Posts 1557 | Profile # |
On June 17 2012 13:41 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 10:25 naux wrote:
New rumor Genius is in talks with fnatic at the moment.
Thank god it's not EG. It's just not funny if EG is on constant hunt to buy players. No hatred here, it's just not good for fans imho.
but it's ok for fnatic to do so? wtf... |
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| Vekalisk Australia. June 17 2012 14:09. Posts 135 | Profile Blog # |
On June 17 2012 13:41 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 10:25 naux wrote:
New rumor Genius is in talks with fnatic at the moment.
Thank god it's not EG. It's just not funny if EG is on constant hunt to buy players. No hatred here, it's just not good for fans imho.
With EG being my favourite team I'm always excited to see them with a new player, doesn't matter who it is really. Don't know why you'd think that. |
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| darkness Bulgaria. June 17 2012 14:35. Posts 2670 | Profile Blog # |
On June 17 2012 13:50 ninjamyst wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 13:41 darkness wrote:
On June 16 2012 10:25 naux wrote:
New rumor Genius is in talks with fnatic at the moment.
Thank god it's not EG. It's just not funny if EG is on constant hunt to buy players. No hatred here, it's just not good for fans imho.
but it's ok for fnatic to do so? wtf...
fnatic isn't as excessive in buying players as EG imho |
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| FairForever Canada. June 17 2012 15:04. Posts 2186 | Profile # |
On June 17 2012 14:35 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 13:50 ninjamyst wrote:
On June 17 2012 13:41 darkness wrote:
On June 16 2012 10:25 naux wrote:
New rumor Genius is in talks with fnatic at the moment.
Thank god it's not EG. It's just not funny if EG is on constant hunt to buy players. No hatred here, it's just not good for fans imho.
but it's ok for fnatic to do so? wtf...
fnatic isn't as excessive in buying players as EG imho
EG: Puma, JYP, HuK, Thorzain
fnatic: aLive, Oz, Moon, potentially Genius
hmm.......... doesn't seem so different does it? |
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| morevox United States. June 17 2012 15:23. Posts 243 | Profile # |
| Foreign teams means more Foreign tournaments, which is $$$. |
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| Vul United States. June 17 2012 16:53. Posts 681 | Profile Blog # |
On June 17 2012 15:04 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 14:35 darkness wrote:
On June 17 2012 13:50 ninjamyst wrote:
On June 17 2012 13:41 darkness wrote:
On June 16 2012 10:25 naux wrote:
New rumor Genius is in talks with fnatic at the moment.
Thank god it's not EG. It's just not funny if EG is on constant hunt to buy players. No hatred here, it's just not good for fans imho.
but it's ok for fnatic to do so? wtf...
fnatic isn't as excessive in buying players as EG imho
EG: Puma, JYP, HuK, Thorzain fnatic: aLive, Oz, Moon, potentially Genius hmm.......... doesn't seem so different does it?
The last thing we should be rooting against is competition over player contracts, that's the only way that SC2 is going to become a better option as a full time profession. Players switching teams, or some teams buying out contracts and becoming "The Yankees" of SC2 is at worst a necessary evil. As far as the fans are concerned, if Genius joins a foreign team he'll most likely remain in the GSL/GSTL but also have the opportunity to travel to more foreign tournaments.
IMO it doesn't negatively affect the fans or competition at all, in SC2 there are plenty of teams with good players and no team has been able to use money to push itself way ahead of the competition. MVP isn't close to crumbling as a result of poaching. And even if EG got both Genius and Stephano, they could become a GSTL contender as a separate team but certainly not the clear favorite.
If we start to see many of the world's top players on one team then I think sure, we have reason to complain. Otherwise, I think it's good for the pro scene and I don't understand this presumption that somehow pro players are obligated to stay with the team that originally signed them. |
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| FairForever Canada. June 17 2012 17:30. Posts 2186 | Profile # |
On June 17 2012 16:53 Vul wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 15:04 FairForever wrote:
On June 17 2012 14:35 darkness wrote:
On June 17 2012 13:50 ninjamyst wrote:
On June 17 2012 13:41 darkness wrote:
On June 16 2012 10:25 naux wrote:
New rumor Genius is in talks with fnatic at the moment.
Thank god it's not EG. It's just not funny if EG is on constant hunt to buy players. No hatred here, it's just not good for fans imho.
but it's ok for fnatic to do so? wtf...
fnatic isn't as excessive in buying players as EG imho
EG: Puma, JYP, HuK, Thorzain fnatic: aLive, Oz, Moon, potentially Genius hmm.......... doesn't seem so different does it?
The last thing we should be rooting against is competition over player contracts, that's the only way that SC2 is going to become a better option as a full time profession. Players switching teams, or some teams buying out contracts and becoming "The Yankees" of SC2 is at worst a necessary evil. As far as the fans are concerned, if Genius joins a foreign team he'll most likely remain in the GSL/GSTL but also have the opportunity to travel to more foreign tournaments. IMO it doesn't negatively affect the fans or competition at all, in SC2 there are plenty of teams with good players and no team has been able to use money to push itself way ahead of the competition. MVP isn't close to crumbling as a result of poaching. And even if EG got both Genius and Stephano, they could become a GSTL contender as a separate team but certainly not the clear favorite. If we start to see many of the world's top players on one team then I think sure, we have reason to complain. Otherwise, I think it's good for the pro scene and I don't understand this presumption that somehow pro players are obligated to stay with the team that originally signed them.
No I agree with you. I am just talking about how his argument is hypocritical in the first place. |
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| blade55555 United States. June 17 2012 17:40. Posts 14125 | Profile Blog # |
On June 17 2012 15:04 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 14:35 darkness wrote:
On June 17 2012 13:50 ninjamyst wrote:
On June 17 2012 13:41 darkness wrote:
On June 16 2012 10:25 naux wrote:
New rumor Genius is in talks with fnatic at the moment.
Thank god it's not EG. It's just not funny if EG is on constant hunt to buy players. No hatred here, it's just not good for fans imho.
but it's ok for fnatic to do so? wtf...
fnatic isn't as excessive in buying players as EG imho
EG: Puma, JYP, HuK, Thorzain fnatic: aLive, Oz, Moon, potentially Genius hmm.......... doesn't seem so different does it?
Thank you, it's nice seeing logic for once lol. Although I am not a big fan of genius and don't want him on EG, and I never cared for fnatic since they are pretty much a korean only team like fxo. |
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| BreakfastBurrito United States. June 17 2012 18:48. Posts 669 | Profile # |
On June 17 2012 17:40 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 15:04 FairForever wrote:
On June 17 2012 14:35 darkness wrote:
On June 17 2012 13:50 ninjamyst wrote:
On June 17 2012 13:41 darkness wrote:
On June 16 2012 10:25 naux wrote:
New rumor Genius is in talks with fnatic at the moment.
Thank god it's not EG. It's just not funny if EG is on constant hunt to buy players. No hatred here, it's just not good for fans imho.
but it's ok for fnatic to do so? wtf...
fnatic isn't as excessive in buying players as EG imho
EG: Puma, JYP, HuK, Thorzain fnatic: aLive, Oz, Moon, potentially Genius hmm.......... doesn't seem so different does it?
Thank you, it's nice seeing logic for once lol. Although I am not a big fan of genius and don't want him on EG, and I never cared for fnatic since they are pretty much a korean only team like fxo.
ya sometimes i kick back and think to myself, back in my day we had foreign teams with foreigners on them -.-
i am happy to see the highest level of competition at more tourneys though, can't complain about that.
in a perfect world (for me) korean teams would have equal footing [salary wise] with foreign ones and thus be able to retain their players better
edit: ^ and send them to places like MLG and DH. Last edit: 2012-06-17 18:49:22 |
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