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| FairForever Canada. June 15 2012 22:23. Posts 2186 | Profile # |
You guys (who say they lose money) are crazy.
I craft 6prop gloves. I have made a shitload of money easily... paid 10m for the plan... I don't even play the game anymore, just craft and craft. Started with 13m and no mats when I bought the plan (put me down to about 5 - 6m after clearing stash of other items), now I'm at 17m with two stash pages full of gloves (ranging from 150k to 4m), as well as about 5000 essences (worth 1800 each) and some other valuables. Profit-wise I'd estimate I've made about 25m worth of igg (after taking into account the RMAH items as well as the cost of the 10m plan) just from crafting.
The best pair I had I sold on the RMAH for $155, sold another one for $80... it's so profitable to craft gloves that anything worth less than 75k I immediately salvage, not worth the time and effort (or AH space) to try and sell.
If I craft 25 gloves, it costs me about 4m+, but in there I'll have at least two pairs worth 2m, if not more. Gloves is seriously the way to go.
Bracers/Boots should also be super profitable, I think Belt/Shoulders are good too.
Also Helm of Command (Legendary) is very profitable as it is a helm. Anything class-specific is an automatic loser since you HAVE to hit a certain set of stats, while with something like shoulders, dex and int are interchangeable.
Daymor, your strategy is exactly the way to go. You need to craft way more to hit the jackpot. I've lost money over 10, 15 crafts even, but over a 25 - 50 craft set (I've probably crafted at least 300) I've always had big gains.Last edit: 2012-06-15 22:23:31 |
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| FairForever Canada. June 15 2012 22:25. Posts 2186 | Profile # |
On June 15 2012 12:10 NB wrote:
these stuff could often carry you to beginning of act3 but thats about it. They are only level 62 and level 63 items could be drop only. These recipe worth a shit ton in Hardcore but in softcore you could just get stuff on AH for same price but cheaper.
No way, sure archon items are better than the i62 ones, but there's never going to be enough AMAZING i63 gloves compared to the demand. You get one amazing craft (I got one with 140 vit, 140 int, 70 res, 16 ias, AND 25 crit damage) and it covers fees forever.
Really, you can find amazing craft gloves/helm/bracers/belts/boots. Everything else obviously you need to buy or find. |
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| Elegance Canada. June 15 2012 22:31. Posts 840 | Profile Blog # |
On June 15 2012 22:23 FairForever wrote:
You guys (who say they lose money) are crazy.
I craft 6prop gloves. I have made a shitload of money easily... paid 10m for the plan... I don't even play the game anymore, just craft and craft. Started with 13m and no mats when I bought the plan (put me down to about 5 - 6m after clearing stash of other items), now I'm at 17m with two stash pages full of gloves (ranging from 150k to 4m), as well as about 5000 essences (worth 1800 each) and some other valuables. Profit-wise I'd estimate I've made about 25m worth of igg (after taking into account the RMAH items as well as the cost of the 10m plan) just from crafting.
The best pair I had I sold on the RMAH for $155, sold another one for $80... it's so profitable to craft gloves that anything worth less than 75k I immediately salvage, not worth the time and effort (or AH space) to try and sell.
If I craft 25 gloves, it costs me about 4m+, but in there I'll have at least two pairs worth 2m, if not more. Gloves is seriously the way to go.
Bracers/Boots should also be super profitable, I think Belt/Shoulders are good too.
Also Helm of Command (Legendary) is very profitable as it is a helm. Anything class-specific is an automatic loser since you HAVE to hit a certain set of stats, while with something like shoulders, dex and int are interchangeable.
Daymor, your strategy is exactly the way to go. You need to craft way more to hit the jackpot. I've lost money over 10, 15 crafts even, but over a 25 - 50 craft set (I've probably crafted at least 300) I've always had big gains.
Yep, but one thing I would argue is that boots/helms (not helm of command) CAN be riskier than shoulders/belt/bracers due to the nature of MS or bust on boots and socket or bust on helm (though this is more of a high risk slightly higher reward). Once I make enough money off of belts, I'll be making the move to 6 prop gloves |
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| FairForever Canada. June 15 2012 22:35. Posts 2186 | Profile # |
On June 15 2012 22:31 Elegance wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 22:23 FairForever wrote:
You guys (who say they lose money) are crazy.
I craft 6prop gloves. I have made a shitload of money easily... paid 10m for the plan... I don't even play the game anymore, just craft and craft. Started with 13m and no mats when I bought the plan (put me down to about 5 - 6m after clearing stash of other items), now I'm at 17m with two stash pages full of gloves (ranging from 150k to 4m), as well as about 5000 essences (worth 1800 each) and some other valuables. Profit-wise I'd estimate I've made about 25m worth of igg (after taking into account the RMAH items as well as the cost of the 10m plan) just from crafting.
The best pair I had I sold on the RMAH for $155, sold another one for $80... it's so profitable to craft gloves that anything worth less than 75k I immediately salvage, not worth the time and effort (or AH space) to try and sell.
If I craft 25 gloves, it costs me about 4m+, but in there I'll have at least two pairs worth 2m, if not more. Gloves is seriously the way to go.
Bracers/Boots should also be super profitable, I think Belt/Shoulders are good too.
Also Helm of Command (Legendary) is very profitable as it is a helm. Anything class-specific is an automatic loser since you HAVE to hit a certain set of stats, while with something like shoulders, dex and int are interchangeable.
Daymor, your strategy is exactly the way to go. You need to craft way more to hit the jackpot. I've lost money over 10, 15 crafts even, but over a 25 - 50 craft set (I've probably crafted at least 300) I've always had big gains.
Yep, but one thing I would argue is that boots/helms (not helm of command) CAN be riskier than shoulders/belt/bracers due to the nature of MS or bust on boots and socket or bust on helm (though this is more of a high risk slightly higher reward). Once I make enough money off of belts, I'll be making the move to 6 prop gloves
Careful though, honestly I would avoid Gloves right now, I should say that. Just because the plan price is SKYROCKETING - as more people craft gloves the prices are going down. I should say that I have found that gloves I used to turn around for 400k are now going for about 250k, so it is a tiny bit annoying.
The top line gloves (int/ias/crit/res, for example) are still worth about the same though, as everyone tries to upgrade to that level.
I'm probably going to start actually playing the game again soon, once I have enough money to buy a 1300+ dps bow.
I think Helms and Boots are more risky, but if you roll the MS (on the Boots) or the Socket and GF or MF combo on the Helm, they are worth a LOT. 15+ mf helms w/ socket are super expensive, if you can get one that's already in the millions (assuming decent roll on the other stats).
I'm not moving from gloves since there's no point - I've thought about crafting other goods but why? Essentially you're spending extra money on a plan, but you still use the same mats, and the auction house space still has the same limit, so you're really not making significantly more profit by switching. |
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| Elegance Canada. June 15 2012 22:39. Posts 840 | Profile Blog # |
On June 15 2012 22:35 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 22:31 Elegance wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:23 FairForever wrote:
You guys (who say they lose money) are crazy.
I craft 6prop gloves. I have made a shitload of money easily... paid 10m for the plan... I don't even play the game anymore, just craft and craft. Started with 13m and no mats when I bought the plan (put me down to about 5 - 6m after clearing stash of other items), now I'm at 17m with two stash pages full of gloves (ranging from 150k to 4m), as well as about 5000 essences (worth 1800 each) and some other valuables. Profit-wise I'd estimate I've made about 25m worth of igg (after taking into account the RMAH items as well as the cost of the 10m plan) just from crafting.
The best pair I had I sold on the RMAH for $155, sold another one for $80... it's so profitable to craft gloves that anything worth less than 75k I immediately salvage, not worth the time and effort (or AH space) to try and sell.
If I craft 25 gloves, it costs me about 4m+, but in there I'll have at least two pairs worth 2m, if not more. Gloves is seriously the way to go.
Bracers/Boots should also be super profitable, I think Belt/Shoulders are good too.
Also Helm of Command (Legendary) is very profitable as it is a helm. Anything class-specific is an automatic loser since you HAVE to hit a certain set of stats, while with something like shoulders, dex and int are interchangeable.
Daymor, your strategy is exactly the way to go. You need to craft way more to hit the jackpot. I've lost money over 10, 15 crafts even, but over a 25 - 50 craft set (I've probably crafted at least 300) I've always had big gains.
Yep, but one thing I would argue is that boots/helms (not helm of command) CAN be riskier than shoulders/belt/bracers due to the nature of MS or bust on boots and socket or bust on helm (though this is more of a high risk slightly higher reward). Once I make enough money off of belts, I'll be making the move to 6 prop gloves
Careful though, honestly I would avoid Gloves right now, I should say that. Just because the plan price is SKYROCKETING - as more people craft gloves the prices are going down. I should say that I have found that gloves I used to turn around for 400k are now going for about 250k, so it is a tiny bit annoying. The top line gloves (int/ias/crit/res, for example) are still worth about the same though, as everyone tries to upgrade to that level. I'm probably going to start actually playing the game again soon, once I have enough money to buy a 1300+ dps bow. I think Helms and Boots are more risky, but if you roll the MS (on the Boots) or the Socket and GF or MF combo on the Helm, they are worth a LOT. 15+ mf helms w/ socket are super expensive, if you can get one that's already in the millions (assuming decent roll on the other stats). I'm not moving from gloves since there's no point - I've thought about crafting other goods but why? Essentially you're spending extra money on a plan, but you still use the same mats, and the auction house space still has the same limit, so you're really not making significantly more profit by switching.
I guess that's true. Right now I've got a good thing going with belts, though I may make a complete switch to shoulders (no shitty barbarian skill props) at a certain point but I think that's as far as I'll go now. I too have pretty much stopped playing and just started crafting (in bulks). As you said, you can really profit when you craft in very large amounts |
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| kanada Canada. June 15 2012 22:45. Posts 228 | Profile # |
| I bought shoulders, made some profit for myself but made much more for my friends. I saw a stream of someone today making gloves for 225k each (160k if you give materials) and he had about 210m, he would just make gloves on stream and trade them away so you could see he wasn't swapping out the good ones. If you have the investment to make alot you can get a profit. On the short term timescale it will be a loss especially with gloves. I offer my friends to make them the shoulders for materials + 100k and then i make 13k per pair. |
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| Elegance Canada. June 15 2012 22:47. Posts 840 | Profile Blog # |
On June 15 2012 22:45 kanada wrote:
I bought shoulders, made some profit for myself but made much more for my friends. I saw a stream of someone today making gloves for 225k each (160k if you give materials) and he had about 210m, he would just make gloves on stream and trade them away so you could see he wasn't swapping out the good ones. If you have the investment to make alot you can get a profit. On the short term timescale it will be a loss especially with gloves. I offer my friends to make them the shoulders for materials + 100k and then i make 13k per pair.
I do it for free if they are friends 
EDIT: Their mats and fees ofcLast edit: 2012-06-15 22:47:27 |
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| FairForever Canada. June 15 2012 22:55. Posts 2186 | Profile # |
On June 15 2012 22:47 Elegance wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 22:45 kanada wrote:
I bought shoulders, made some profit for myself but made much more for my friends. I saw a stream of someone today making gloves for 225k each (160k if you give materials) and he had about 210m, he would just make gloves on stream and trade them away so you could see he wasn't swapping out the good ones. If you have the investment to make alot you can get a profit. On the short term timescale it will be a loss especially with gloves. I offer my friends to make them the shoulders for materials + 100k and then i make 13k per pair.
I do it for free if they are friends EDIT: Their mats and fees ofc
I'll craft you some gloves if you craft me some belts haha
Other advantage of belts is they take half the stash space of gloves T___T |
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| kanada Canada. June 15 2012 23:18. Posts 228 | Profile # |
On June 15 2012 22:47 Elegance wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 22:45 kanada wrote:
I bought shoulders, made some profit for myself but made much more for my friends. I saw a stream of someone today making gloves for 225k each (160k if you give materials) and he had about 210m, he would just make gloves on stream and trade them away so you could see he wasn't swapping out the good ones. If you have the investment to make alot you can get a profit. On the short term timescale it will be a loss especially with gloves. I offer my friends to make them the shoulders for materials + 100k and then i make 13k per pair.
I do it for free if they are friends EDIT: Their mats and fees ofc
half the time i have done it for free, but I also made a few pairs and just gave them to a friend (probably worth at least 4m) and those were ones I made of my own mats, so i don't mind charging a little surchage for the crafting. |
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| Elegance Canada. June 15 2012 23:24. Posts 840 | Profile Blog # |
On June 15 2012 22:55 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 22:47 Elegance wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:45 kanada wrote:
I bought shoulders, made some profit for myself but made much more for my friends. I saw a stream of someone today making gloves for 225k each (160k if you give materials) and he had about 210m, he would just make gloves on stream and trade them away so you could see he wasn't swapping out the good ones. If you have the investment to make alot you can get a profit. On the short term timescale it will be a loss especially with gloves. I offer my friends to make them the shoulders for materials + 100k and then i make 13k per pair.
I do it for free if they are friends EDIT: Their mats and fees ofc
I'll craft you some gloves if you craft me some belts haha Other advantage of belts is they take half the stash space of gloves T___T
Haha for sure man, I'll add you up (PM'd) |
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| Nos- Canada. June 15 2012 23:51. Posts 1295 | Profile Blog # |
| I really wish the random stats you get from crafting equipment in this game were less shitty 90% of the time. The amount of money needed to craft the thing and the amount of money lost from salvaging blues almost always outweigh the attributes you get for crafting it. Blacksmithing has been thoroughly disappointing for me. |
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| Heh_ Singapore. June 16 2012 00:01. Posts 2245 | Profile Blog # |
| I can craft helms, anybody wishes to trade? |
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| FairForever Canada. June 16 2012 00:13. Posts 2186 | Profile # |
On June 15 2012 23:51 Nos- wrote:
I really wish the random stats you get from crafting equipment in this game were less shitty 90% of the time. The amount of money needed to craft the thing and the amount of money lost from salvaging blues almost always outweigh the attributes you get for crafting it. Blacksmithing has been thoroughly disappointing for me.
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You should salvage lv 60+ items all the time anyway since the mats are worth a ton.
I don't understand if you're getting rng killed or something... what are you crafting? Is it 6 stat?
Also I never understood why people craft weapons since they're crap.... unlike other items, the extra damage from an 63 weapon is way better than a 62 so you essentially can't craft anything more than 10m (and dropping)... |
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| Bagi June 16 2012 00:14. Posts 5879 | Profile # |
I've been crafting gloves, at first it was really profitable (like +3million gold overall) but lost more than a million now making completely useless ones.
It depends on your luck (like most things in this game), but definitely worth it so far for me overall.Last edit: 2012-06-16 00:15:06 |
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| KOFgokuon United States. June 16 2012 02:43. Posts 11266 | Profile Blog # |
ahhhh I should have stuck with my guns and sold my plan for 20 mil
or just used it to make my own gloves
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| Elegance Canada. June 16 2012 03:46. Posts 840 | Profile Blog # |
On June 15 2012 21:42 Elegance wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 12:06 Elegance wrote:
After profiting from a 6 prop belt recipe over a couple of days (2.5 mil to 8.7 mil), I decided to do an experiment today. Spent 8 mil on crafting around 60 belts or so. So far pricing everything out, there is DEFINITE profit. Maybe I'll tabulate out the results (after the 15% AH fee) later on. And this is belt we are talkign about, one of the less desirable 6 prop armor piece. If we are talking about weapons, they are straight up shit but I can't see how people are losing out on making 6 prop armor.
Just an update on this, so far I've sold 8 belts and I'm already at 6.775 million gold
Update #2: nearing 15 million gold now |
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| chroniX June 16 2012 10:53. Posts 406 | Profile Blog # |
| Are the shields any good? Just found the plan... |
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| EonuS Slovenia. June 16 2012 11:13. Posts 139 | Profile # |
| anyone got experience with +6 stat shoulders? I am about to buy it and craft stuff out, but I want your opinion on shoulders compared to other items (I rather don't want to try gloves because too many people are doing them currently) |
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| Elegance Canada. June 16 2012 11:18. Posts 840 | Profile Blog # |
On June 16 2012 11:13 EonuS wrote:
anyone got experience with +6 stat shoulders? I am about to buy it and craft stuff out, but I want your opinion on shoulders compared to other items (I rather don't want to try gloves because too many people are doing them currently)
It's a safe option. No specific stat it HAS to have (ie. socket on helm), and no shit stats like class specific (reduce cost of weapon throw on belts for example) |
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| udgnim United States. June 16 2012 11:30. Posts 6448 | Profile Blog # |
just realized the reason why I see so many low priced gloves when trying to compare prices for gloves I find is due to people crafting tons of gloves
I almost always end up salvaging the gloves I'm thinking about AHing |
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