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| arb Noobville. June 17 2012 03:22. Posts 11225 | Profile Blog # |
On June 16 2012 21:11 kAelle_sc wrote: if europeans, americans, chinese can support full time pro dota 2 teams, why cant koreans?
can't wait till koreans show us how dota 2 can be played with 300+ apm and high level mechanics
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| dellesh1ruH Denmark. June 17 2012 03:45. Posts 456 | Profile # |
On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote: I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.
This! I completely agree. |
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ImbaTosS United Kingdom. June 17 2012 03:50. Posts 1219 | Profile Blog # |
On June 17 2012 03:45 dellesh1ruH wrote: Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote: I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.
This! I completely agree.
Who is criticising...? |
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| De4ngus United States. June 17 2012 03:53. Posts 4999 | Profile Blog # |
On June 17 2012 03:50 ImbaTosS wrote: Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 03:45 dellesh1ruH wrote: On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote: I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.
This! I completely agree.
Who is criticising...?
have you read the thread ahahaha |
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| Veldril Thailand. June 17 2012 04:00. Posts 1609 | Profile # |
On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote: Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote: I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.
You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.
The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore 
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.Last edit: 2012-06-17 04:06:14 |
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| TylerThaCreator United States. June 17 2012 04:01. Posts 780 | Profile Blog # |
On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote: Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote: On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote: I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.
You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.
The think I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore  Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.
Yeah seriously...lmao. |
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| Ribbon United States. June 17 2012 04:08. Posts 5043 | Profile Blog # |
On June 16 2012 17:49 RockIronrod wrote: Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 15:40 De4ngus wrote: great post by durrhurrderp. the amount LoL haters makes me sick. or people who try to shit on other games in general. "its too easy its hurting esports" ROFL you are the ones hurting esports.
Riot puts into their contract for every tournament League is involved in that they can't have any other games from the same genre. That's the very definition of "hurting eSports."
Riot pays tournaments prize money and Dota/HoN don't. That is the extent of their "shadiness".
Source: And MLG Gold Q+A with Sundance Giovanni, when someone asked if Dota2 would be in MLG, he said Riot supported their game financially (prize money) and Valve didn't.
It's true that LoL's scene is a lot less organic than BW's or even SC2's, but if people are really enjoying it, I don't think that's all that bad. Last edit: 2012-06-17 04:12:31 |
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Antoine United States. June 17 2012 04:08. Posts 6328 | Profile Blog # |
On June 17 2012 03:22 arb wrote: Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 21:11 kAelle_sc wrote: if europeans, americans, chinese can support full time pro dota 2 teams, why cant koreans?
can't wait till koreans show us how dota 2 can be played with 300+ apm and high level mechanics
You know you're only controlling 1 hero right?
not necessarily true in dota! |
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| flashimba June 17 2012 04:19. Posts 69 | Profile # |
On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote: Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote: On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote: I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.
You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.
The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore  Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.
Please stop pulling this sort of nonsense.
It's more likely that the people who moved from BW to SC2 simply moved again to LoL for the same reasons--a newer game and a bigger and richer scene. And now people are pissed that those hoppers have abandoned their game. |
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| Soap Brazil. June 17 2012 04:21. Posts 1165 | Profile Blog # |
Oh, so those people saying BW was obsolete were right. Just not about which game.
On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote: Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote: On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote: I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.
You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.
The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore  Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.
If it is called StarCraft obviously there's gonna be comparison, on the other hand most people commenting about LoL don't care about DotA. |
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| Taku Canada. June 17 2012 04:24. Posts 1797 | Profile Blog # |
On June 17 2012 04:19 flashimba wrote: Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote: On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote: On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote: I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.
You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.
The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore  Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.
Please stop pulling this sort of nonsense. It's more likely that the people who moved from BW to SC2 simply moved again to LoL for the same reasons--a newer game and a bigger and richer scene. And now people are pissed that those hoppers have abandoned their game.
SC2 was never their game though that's the thing |
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| SarcasmMonster June 17 2012 04:25. Posts 2907 | Profile # |
On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote: Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote: On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote: I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.
You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.
The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore  Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.
Hypocrites  Last edit: 2012-06-17 04:25:17 |
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| Xiphos Canada. June 17 2012 04:29. Posts 5732 | Profile Blog # |
On June 17 2012 04:25 SarcasmMonster wrote: Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote: On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote: On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote: I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.
You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.
The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore  Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.
Hypocrites 
Because I would rather the players take in something that they actually enjoy instead of being forced down the throat something else. And we are totally empathetic about their choice. |
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| habeck June 17 2012 04:50. Posts 796 | Profile # |
| After reading almost whole thread, i've started to think that the future of Starcraft may not be so bright, as LoL and Dota 2 Get more popularity somehow. So SAD T.T |
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WHyTePoWeR Korea (South). June 17 2012 04:54. Posts 132 | Profile # |
On June 17 2012 04:29 Xiphos wrote: Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 04:25 SarcasmMonster wrote: On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote: On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote: On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote: I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.
You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.
The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore  Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.
Hypocrites 
Because I would rather the players take in something that they actually enjoy instead of being forced down the throat something else. And we are totally empathetic about their choice.
well it was sort of the same for bw, didn't stork mention how his slump happened because their team was forced to practice bw and he got bored and started playing wow? Also LoL is easier to switch to than sc2 because its an easy game to get into and its popular right now |
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| SlowBullets United States. June 17 2012 04:56. Posts 731 | Profile # |
| Literally, any bashing towards LoL can be replaced with the word "SC2" and the statement would hold true, in terms of skill cap, etc...stop arguing, let the progamers do what they want. As Xiphos stated, seeing them do what they want is more important than being forced to play a game they don't prefer. Last edit: 2012-06-17 04:57:17 |
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| ShadeR Australia. June 17 2012 05:15. Posts 6657 | Profile Blog # |
On June 17 2012 04:25 SarcasmMonster wrote: Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote: On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote: On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote: I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.
You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.
The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore  Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.
Hypocrites 
uggghhhh any bitterness towards sc2 is because it is an unworthy sequel. LoL is a whole nother thing. but hey while your at it call me a hypocrite for liking bw and mario kart. |
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| jpak United States. June 17 2012 05:25. Posts 3745 | Profile Blog # |
On June 17 2012 05:15 ShadeR wrote: Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 04:25 SarcasmMonster wrote: On June 17 2012 04:00 Veldril wrote: On June 17 2012 02:51 Taku wrote: On June 16 2012 22:25 bubblegumbo wrote: I don't see the criticism for moving from BW to LoL, it's getting bigger in Korea so it's a logical choice for any BW player that still want to remain as a pro-gamer yet not wishing to play SC2. Stop comparing SC2 skillcap to LoL, its like comparing a team sport like basketball to individual sports like golf/tennis.
You'll see there's actually almost no one criticizing this lol, at least from the BW fans. It's only SC2 fans getting bothered by this I think.
The thing I find it kinda funny is that many people hate SC2 for "being easy with MBS, automining, etc", and then cheer on to LoL, which is a dumb down version of DotA/DotA2. It's kinda make their argument not really logical anymore  Don't get me wrong, I don't hate LoL. It's just funny for me that people can be this illogical just to spite the game they hate.
Hypocrites 
uggghhhh any bitterness towards sc2 is because it is an unworthy sequel. LoL is a whole nother thing. but hey while your at it call me a hypocrite for liking bw and mario kart.
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| SupLilSon Malaysia. June 17 2012 05:27. Posts 3234 | Profile # |
On June 17 2012 03:22 arb wrote: Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 21:11 kAelle_sc wrote: if europeans, americans, chinese can support full time pro dota 2 teams, why cant koreans?
can't wait till koreans show us how dota 2 can be played with 300+ apm and high level mechanics
You know you're only controlling 1 hero right?
Yea, I don't get why people think high level RTS mechanics are going to translate directly into MOBA skill. The games are different in both mechanics and gameplay dynamic. 1v1 vs 5v5. Hardcore multitasking and economy management vs. almost solely micromanagement based play. It's almost like thinking pro FPS players could transition to RTS because they can click accurately and click fast -.-;; |
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| Darksoldierr Hungary. June 17 2012 05:35. Posts 1900 | Profile # |
On June 17 2012 05:27 SupLilSon wrote: Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 03:22 arb wrote: On June 16 2012 21:11 kAelle_sc wrote: if europeans, americans, chinese can support full time pro dota 2 teams, why cant koreans?
can't wait till koreans show us how dota 2 can be played with 300+ apm and high level mechanics
You know you're only controlling 1 hero right?
Yea, I don't get why people think high level RTS mechanics are going to translate directly into MOBA skill. The games are different in both mechanics and gameplay dynamic. 1v1 vs 5v5. Hardcore multitasking and economy management vs. almost solely micromanagement based play. It's almost like thinking pro FPS players could transition to RTS because they can click accurately and click fast -.-;;
Except the console fps players, we all hate them and think that they are skilless compared to true pc fps pros |
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