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| Hyperionnn Turkey. June 15 2012 18:37. Posts 4878 | Profile Blog # |
July is getting closer and this means that the biggest yearly sports event is about to start.
![[image loading]](http://www.letour.fr/2012/TDF/img/lacarte.jpg)
Last year, we saw Cadel Evans finally getting his Grand Tour win after so many failures due to weak teams and bad luck, Thor Hushovd defending his Yellow Jersey like champ, and winning 2 mountain stages, even he was considered as a sprinter, Voeckler trying to hold on his yellow for 10 day with huge help from Pierre Rolland, finally surrendered on Alpe d'Huez and barely missed out podium, Andy Schleck's crazy attack after he lost big time on the descent to Gap and Contador's crazy riding from 93km out and turning the whole race upside down.
Although the route is critisized by fans that having way too few mountain stages and way too many kilometres of time trialing but climbers will have to attack more often in order to have a chance winning this tour.
What You Need To Know
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Thanks to Drolla from last years thread, he explained the jerseys and their importance perfectly
Yellow Jersey - Worn by the current leader of the race. Represents the General Time Classification
Green Jersey - Worn by the leader of the General Points Classification. Nearly always won by the sprinters.
Polka-Dot Jersey - The jersey affiliated with the Best Climber Classification. More commonly known as "The King of The Mountains." It is very rare though that the best climber actually wins this classification though.
White Jersey - For the Best Young Rider of the race. Basically the yellow jersey for 25 y.o. and younger. It is possible to win both the Yellow and White Jersey.
Stages
+ Show Spoiler +P Prologue Saturday 30 June Liège > Liège 6.4 km
1 Plain Sunday 1 July Liège > Seraing 198 km
2 Plain Monday 2 July Visé > Tournai 207.5 km
3 Medium mountains Tuesday 3 July Orchies > Boulogne-sur-Mer 197 km
4 Plain Wednesday 4 July Abbeville > Rouen 214.5 km
5 Plain Thursday 5 July Rouen > Saint-Quentin 196.5 km
6 Plain Friday 6 July Épernay > Metz 207.5 km
7 Medium mountains Saturday 7 July Tomblaine > La Planche des Belles Filles 199 km
8 Medium mountains Sunday 8 July Belfort > Porrentruy 157.5 km
9 Individual time-trial Monday 9 July Arc-et-Senans > Besançon 41.5 km
10 High Mountains Wednesday 11 July Mâcon > Bellegarde-sur-Valserine 194.5 km
11 High Mountains Thursday 12 July Albertville > La Toussuire - Les Sybelles 148 km
12 Medium mountains Friday 13 July Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne > Annonay Davézieux 226 km
13 Plain Saturday 14 July Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux > Le Cap d’Agde 217 km
14 High Mountains Sunday 15 July Limoux > Foix 191 km
15 Plain Monday 16 July Samatan > Pau 158.5 km
16 High Mountains Wednesday 18 July Pau > Bagnères-de-Luchon 197 km
17 High Mountains Thursday 19 July Bagnères-de-Luchon > Peyragudes 143.5 km
18 Plain Friday 20 July Blagnac > Brive-la-Gaillarde 222.5 km
19 Individual time-trial Saturday 21 July Bonneval > Chartres 53.5 km
20 Plain Sunday 22 July Rambouillet > Paris Champs-Élysées 120 km
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You can find all detailed profiles here:
http://www.letour.fr/2012/TDF/COURSE/us/0/etape_par_etape.html
http://www.steephill.tv/tour-de-france (There's some nice information as well)
This a huge preview I found, It's extremely long but I recommend to read it
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=17592
Stages to watch:
+ Show Spoiler +Stage 3: ![[image loading]](http://www.grassyknolltv.com/2012/tour-de-france/resources/profiles/profile-03.jpg) As you can see the profile looks like the Ardennes Classics and mostly the monument Liege-Bastogne-Liege, last 35 kms can provide suprise attacks from contenders and people who might try to get the yellow jersey. Stage 7: ![[image loading]](http://www.grassyknolltv.com/2012/tour-de-france/resources/profiles/profile-07.jpg) First mountain top finish, although this stage lacks climbs to tire out riders and provoke attacks, fireworks should happen in this stage at the foot of the final climb. Stage 9: ![[image loading]](http://www.grassyknolltv.com/2012/tour-de-france/resources/profiles/profile-09.jpg) The second time trial, which will cause major shifts in the general classification, it's a hillyish time trial which may cause problems for time trial specialists. Stage 11: ![[image loading]](http://www.grassyknolltv.com/2012/tour-de-france/resources/profiles/profile-11.jpg) Probably the best stage in this years Tour de France. It's a short stage but constant climbing and descending will wreck the riders and the list of people who can win will become really small after this stage. Stage 16: ![[image loading]](http://www.grassyknolltv.com/2012/tour-de-france/resources/profiles/profile-16.jpg) Again, a tough stage, which features 2 HC climbs and 2 Cat 1 climbs and the finish is shortly after a rapid descent, good descenders can take advantage of this stage and put some time into their rivals. Stage 17: ![[image loading]](http://www.grassyknolltv.com/2012/tour-de-france/resources/profiles/profile-17.jpg) Final mountain stage before the decisive time trial, climbers will have to give it all to cause troubles for contenders, who can time trial better. Stage 19: ![[image loading]](http://www.grassyknolltv.com/2012/tour-de-france/resources/profiles/profile-19.jpg) Final time trial, which will decide the winner of Tour de France 2012, it's a long, flat route and the riders who conserved their energy can put huge times against rivals in this stage.
Contenders:
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Cadel Evans: He's the defending champ, he showed that he can handle big climbs in 3rd week, his time trial ability is one of the best in whole peloton, and he's more confident finally getting a Grand Tour win.
Bradley Wiggins: His form in this season is plain insane, he nearly won every time trial he rode this year and his team is the strongest team easily in this year. The presence of Cavendish might cause troubles for him though.
Alberto Contador:He's out due to his suspension from doping
Andy Schleck:He's out from a injury he suffered from Dauphine.
Denis Menchov: Multiple GT winner, great time trialist, he's surely one of the biggest contenders in this year.
Outsiders:
Europcar gang: Pierre Rolland and Thomas Voeckler will be there, trying to cause suprises. Rolland will probably the GC guy and Voeckler will hunt for stages but you may never know after that crazy performance from last year.
Samuel Sanchez: Last years king of the mountain, can climb and descent extremely well. He crashed in Dauphine but he was able to finish the race, still it can be difficult to find his form.
Vincenzo Nibali: Crazy descending abilities, good climber but he might have problems in time trials.
Frank Schleck: Abandoned Giro because of injuries, but it is likely that his team can be banned from Tour due to a doing investigation regarding Lance Armstrong and team manager Johan Bruynell
Jürgen Van Den Broeck: Last year he crashed out, still an enigma who can do major stuff in mountains.
Garmin boys: Garmin is well known for putting some guy in top 10 each year.
Tom Danielson will be the leader here but dont forget the Giro winner Ryder Hesjedal, Cristian Vande Velde and upcoming rider Dan Martin.
It seems to be that their leader will be Hesjedal as he stated he's feeling great and fresh even after winning Giro, their team is one of the strongest team in this years Tour, they are likely to make a surprise here Green Jersey + Show Spoiler +
Mark Cavendish: World Champion and last years winner of green jersey, probably the best sprinter right now. But he had a tough Giro which he barely lost the Points Jersey there and his team will surely focus on Wiggins and he wont have a sprint train like HTC days.
Peter Sagan: This dude is insane, winning stages left and right everywhere, even he won a prologue in Tour of Suisse. He can get points nearly in every stage and probably the main favorite for green jersey.
JJ Rojas: He fought really well last year, getting points from hilly stages where Cavendish cant score, this year he will try to win Green jersey again.
Thor Hushovd:Had his worst season of his career and wont be here in this years Tour.
Marcel Kittel/Andre Gripel/Tyler Farrar: Sprinters who might have a chance to get stage wins in this year but they are less likely to go for green jersey.
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It can go to a lot of people but in my opinion main favorites are Thomas Voeckler, Chris Anker Sorensen and Dan Martin and Jelle Vanendert.
Startlist
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BMC RACING (BMC)
(USA)
1 EVANS Cadel AUS
2 BURGHARDT Marcus GER
3 CUMMINGS Stephen GBR
4 GILBERT Philippe BEL
5 HINCAPIE George USA
6 MOINARD Amaël FRA
7 QUINZIATO Manuel ITA
8 SCHÄR Michael SUI
9 VAN GARDEREN Tejay USA
RADIOSHACK-NISSAN (RNT)
(LUX)
11 SCHLECK Frank LUX
12 CANCELLARA Fabian SUI
13 GALLOPIN Tony FRA
14 HORNER Christopher USA
15 KLÖDEN Andreas GER
16 MONFORT Maxime BEL
17 POPOVYCH Yaroslav UKR
18 VOIGT Jens GER
19 ZUBELDIA AGIRRE Haimar ESP
EUROPCAR (EUC)
(FRA)
21 VOECKLER Thomas FRA
22 ARASHIRO Yukiya JPN
23 BERNAUDEAU Giovanni FRA
24 GAUTIER Cyril FRA
25 GENE Yohann FRA
26 JEROME Vincent FRA
27 KERN Christophe FRA
28 MALACARNE Davide ITA
29 ROLLAND Pierre FRA
EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI (EUS)
(ESP)
31 SANCHEZ GONZALEZ Samuel ESP
32 ASTARLOZA CHAURREAU Mikel ESP
33 AZANZA SOTO Jorge ESP
34 IZAGUIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka ESP
35 MARTINEZ DE ESTEBAN Egoi ESP
36 PEREZ MORENO Ruben ESP
37 TXURRUKA Amets ESP
38 URTASUN PEREZ Pablo ESP
39 VERDUGO MARCOTEGUI Gorka ESP
LAMPRE - ISD (LAM)
(ITA)
41 SCARPONI Michele ITA
42 BOLE Grega SLO
43 HONDO Danilo GER
44 KRIVTSOV Yuriy UKR
45 LLOYD Matthew AUS
46 MARZANO Marco ITA
47 PETACCHI Alessandro ITA
48 STORTONI Simone ITA
49 VIGANO Davide ITA
LIQUIGAS-CANNONDALE (LIQ)
(ITA)
51 NIBALI Vincenzo ITA
52 BASSO Ivan ITA
53 CANUTI Federico ITA
54 KOREN Kristijan SLO
55 NERZ Dominik GER
56 OSS Daniel ITA
57 SAGAN Peter SVK
58 SZMYD Sylvester POL
59 VANOTTI Alessandro ITA
GARMIN-BARRACUDA (GRM)
(USA)
61 HESJEDAL Ryder CAN
62 DANIELSON Thomas USA
63 FARRAR Tyler USA
64 HUNTER Robert RSA
65 MARTIN Daniel IRL
66 MILLAR David GBR
67 VANDEVELDE Christian USA
68 VAN SUMMEREN Johan BEL
69 ZABRISKIE David USA
AG2R LA MONDIALE (ALM)
(FRA)
71 PERAUD Jean-Christophe FRA
72 BOUET Maxime FRA
73 CHEREL Mikael FRA
74 DUPONT Hubert FRA
75 KADRI Blel FRA
76 MINARD Sébastien FRA
77 MONDORY Lloyd FRA
78 RIBLON Christophe FRA
79 ROCHE Nicolas IRL
COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE (COF)
(FRA)
81 TAARAMAE Rein EST
82 DI GREGORIO Rémy FRA
83 DUMOULIN Samuel FRA
84 EDET Nicolas FRA
85 FOUCHARD Julien FRA
86 GHYSELINCK Jan BEL
87 MATE MARDONES Luis Angel ESP
88 MONCOUTIE David FRA
89 ZINGLE Romain BEL
SAUR - SOJASUN (SAU)
(FRA)
91 COPPEL Jerome FRA
92 DELAPLACE Anthony FRA
93 ENGOULVENT Jimmy FRA
94 FEILLU Brice FRA
95 JEANDESBOZ Fabrice FRA
96 LEMOINE Cyril FRA
97 LEVARLET Guillaume FRA
98 MARINO Jean Marc FRA
99 SIMON Julien FRA
SKY PROCYCLING (SKY)
(GBR)
101 WIGGINS Bradley GBR
102 CAVENDISH Mark GBR
103 EISEL Bernhard AUT
104 FROOME Christopher GBR
105 BOASSON HAGEN Edvald NOR
106 KNEES Christian GER
107 PORTE Richie AUS
108 ROGERS Michael AUS
109 SIVTSOV Kanstantsin BLR
LOTTO BELISOL (LTB)
(BEL)
111 VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen BEL
112 BAK Lars Ytting DEN
113 DE GREEF Francis BEL
114 GREIPEL André GER
115 HANSEN Adam AUS
116 HENDERSON Greg NZL
117 ROELANDTS Jurgen BEL
118 SIEBERG Marcel GER
119 VANENDERT Jelle BEL
VACANSOLEIL-DCM (VCD)
(NED)
121 WESTRA Lieuwe NED
122 BOECKMANS Kris BEL
123 HOOGERLAND Johnny NED
124 LARSSON Gustav SWE
125 MARCATO Marco ITA
126 POELS Wouter NED
127 RUIJGH Rob NED
128 VALLS FERRI Rafael ESP
129 VAN HUMMEL Kenny Robert NED
KATUSHA (KAT)
(RUS)
131 MENCHOV Denis RUS
132 CARUSO Giampaolo ITA
133 FREIRE GOMEZ Oscar ESP
134 GUSEV Vladimir RUS
135 HORRACH RIPPOLL Juan ESP
136 KUSCHYNSKI Aliaksandr BLR
137 PAOLINI Luca ITA
138 TROFIMOV Yury RUS
139 VORGANOV Eduard RUS
FDJ-BIG MAT (FDJ)
(FRA)
141 CASAR Sandy FRA
142 FEDRIGO Pierrick FRA
143 HUTAROVICH Yauheni BLR
144 LADAGNOUS Matthieu FRA
145 PINEAU Cédric FRA
146 PINOT Thibaut FRA
147 ROUX Anthony FRA
148 ROY Jérémy FRA
149 VICHOT Arthur FRA
RABOBANK (RAB)
(NED)
151 GESINK Robert NED
152 KRUIJSWIJK Steven NED
153 MOLLEMA Bauke NED
154 RENSHAW Mark AUS
155 SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon ESP
156 TANKINK Bram NED
157 TEN DAM Laurens NED
158 TJALLINGII Maarten NED
159 WYNANTS Maarten BEL
MOVISTAR (MOV)
(ESP)
161 VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro ESP
162 COBO ACEBO Juan Jose ESP
163 FARIA DA COSTA Rui Alberto POR
164 ERVITI OLLO Imanol ESP
165 GUTIERREZ PALACIOS José Ivan ESP
166 KARPETS Vladimir RUS
167 KIRYIENKA Vasili BLR
168 PLAZA MOLINA Ruben ESP
169 ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin ESP
SAXO BANK (SAX)
(DEN)
171 CANTWELL Jonathan AUS
172 HAEDO Lucas Sebastian ARG
173 KROON Karsten NED
174 LUND Anders DEN
175 MORKOV Michael DEN
176 NUYENS Nick BEL
177 PAULINHO Sergio Miguel Moreira POR
178 SÖRENSEN Chris Anker DEN
179 SÖRENSEN Nicki DEN
ASTANA (AST)
(KAZ)
181 BRAJKOVIC Janez SLO
182 BOZIC Borut SLO
183 FOFONOV Dmitriy KAZ
184 GRIVKO Andriy UKR
185 IGLINSKIY Maxim KAZ
186 KASHECHKIN Andrey KAZ
187 KESSIAKOFF Fredrik Carl Wilhelm SWE
188 KISERLOVSKI Robert CRO
189 VINOKUROV Alexandr KAZ
OMEGA PHARMA-QUICKSTEP (OPQ)
(BEL)
191 LEIPHEIMER Levi USA
192 CHAVANEL Sylvain FRA
193 DEVENYNS Dries BEL
194 DE WEERT Kevin BEL
195 GRABSCH Bert GER
196 MARTIN Tony GER
197 PINEAU Jérôme FRA
198 VELITS Martin SVK
199 VELITS Peter SVK
ORICA - GREENEDGE (GEC)
(AUS)
201 GERRANS Simon AUS
202 ALBASINI Michael SUI
203 COOKE Baden AUS
204 GOSS Matthew Harley AUS
205 IMPEY Daryl RSA
206 LANCASTER Brett AUS
207 LANGEVELD Sebastian NED
208 O'GRADY Stuart AUS
209 WEENING Pieter NED
ARGOS-SHIMANO (ARG)
(NED)
211 KITTEL Marcel GER
212 CURVERS Roy NED
213 DE KORT Koen NED
214 FRÖHLINGER Johannes GER
215 GRETSCH Patrick GER
216 HUGUET Yann FRA
217 SPRICK Matthieu FRA
218 TIMMER Albert NED
219 VEELERS Tom NED
Stage winners
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Prologue: Cancellara Yellow Jersey: Cancellara
Stage 1:Sagan Yellow Jersey: Cancellara
Stage 2:Cavendish Yellow Jersey: Cancellara
Stage 3:Sagan Yellow Jersey: Cancellara
Stage 4:Greipel Yellow Jersey: Cancellara
Stage 5:Greipel Yellow Jersey: Cancellara
Stage 6:Sagan Yellow Jersey: Cancellara
Stage 7:Froome Yellow Jersey: Wiggins
Stage 8: Pinot Yellow Jersey: Wiggins
Stage 9:Wiggins Yellow Jersey: Wiggins
Stage 10:Voeckler Yellow Jersey: Wiggins
Stage 11:Rolland Yellow Jersey: Wiggins
Stage 12:Millar Yellow Jersey: Wiggins
Stage 13:Greipel Yellow Jersey: Wiggins
Stage 14:LL Sanchez Yellow Jersey: Wiggins
Stage 15:Fedrigo Yellow Jersey: Wiggins
Stage 16:Voeckler Yellow Jersey: Wiggins
Stage 17:Valverde Yellow Jersey: Wiggins
Stage 18:Cavendish Yellow Jersey: Wiggins
Stage 19:Wiggins Yellow Jersey: Wiggins
Stage 20:Cavendish
Bradley Wiggins is your Tour de France 2012 champion, congrats to him
Feel free to PM me if you want anything added into OPLast edit: 2012-07-23 01:19:01 |
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| Freeheals United States. June 21 2012 14:23. Posts 487 | Profile Blog # |
| I hope they don't just spend the entire race talking about Lance's charges, which they sort of did last year. The race is always the highlight of my summer as far as sport goes, and excited to see how Cadel Evans does. Unfortunately Andy Schleck isn't competing this year it appears |
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| Hyperionnn Turkey. June 22 2012 20:52. Posts 4878 | Profile Blog # |
On June 21 2012 14:23 Freeheals wrote:
I hope they don't just spend the entire race talking about Lance's charges, which they sort of did last year. The race is always the highlight of my summer as far as sport goes, and excited to see how Cadel Evans does. Unfortunately Andy Schleck isn't competing this year it appears
I guess you are watching Liggett and Sherwen commentary, these guys are really horrible. When Contador destroying everyone in 2009 TDF in Verbier, they were like "Thats a great ride by Armstrong, he's a legend!!!!!!!!!!" or when Lance beats Contador in prologue like 5 seconds "That's a huge blow to Contador!!!!!!!!!!! he's going to be devastated!!!!!!!!!!" |
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| KobraKay Portugal. June 22 2012 21:31. Posts 2085 | Profile # |
On June 22 2012 20:52 Hyperionnn wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 14:23 Freeheals wrote:
I hope they don't just spend the entire race talking about Lance's charges, which they sort of did last year. The race is always the highlight of my summer as far as sport goes, and excited to see how Cadel Evans does. Unfortunately Andy Schleck isn't competing this year it appears
I guess you are watching Liggett and Sherwen commentary, these guys are really horrible. When Contador destroying everyone in 2009 TDF in Verbier, they were like "Thats a great ride by Armstrong, he's a legend!!!!!!!!!!" or when Lance beats Contador in prologue like 5 seconds "That's a huge blow to Contador!!!!!!!!!!! he's going to be devastated!!!!!!!!!!"
lol here is the opposite. Portuguese commentator do a reasonable job hidding their bias but you can tell (and one of them actually admitted to it) that they really contador. In the incident with Andy and his bike's (chain?! sorry never talked about cycling in english before T_T dont know how to name that part) they were all OMG CONTADOR COMPLETELY DEMOLISHING Andy S.! Final time trial comes and he wins omg no doubt the best omg omg omg. When things could go absolutely the other way had he showed some fair play (or had the chain not broke or whatever happened to Andy). Still Im nitpicking, our commentators do a fantastic job apart that slight bias and actually made a lot of people in Portugal watch cycling (besides those who actually do or that already watched) due to fun and also insightfull commentaries all year long.
If RS and the brothers are out this is going to be a strange Tour. Its going to come down to how well Menchov feels and if Cadel is strong. Either way, my vote goes to BWiggins and that powerhouse of a team that is Sky. |
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 Brow23 Germany. June 22 2012 21:43. Posts 105 | Profile # |
| This sport destroyed itself with the ridiculous suspension of Contador. Like "Miguel Indurain" said: "Someone wants to destroy this sport, there is no other reason for this" and Eddy Merckx: "Its a shame for this sport" |
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| Hyperionnn Turkey. June 28 2012 00:10. Posts 4878 | Profile Blog # |
| Updated OP with startlist and feel free to PM me if you have any questions about the race |
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| worked13 Australia. June 28 2012 00:26. Posts 93 | Profile # |
| Can't wait for this. Cadel vs Wiggins is going to be fierce. |
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| Logros Netherlands. June 28 2012 00:37. Posts 9728 | Profile # |
On June 22 2012 21:43 Brow23 wrote:
This sport destroyed itself with the ridiculous suspension of Contador. Like "Miguel Indurain" said: "Someone wants to destroy this sport, there is no other reason for this" and Eddy Merckx: "Its a shame for this sport"
They actually suspended other riders before for even less, so it would be silly to let Contador off just because he is a known rider. |
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| Copymizer Denmark. June 28 2012 00:42. Posts 1420 | Profile # |
On June 22 2012 21:43 Brow23 wrote:
This sport destroyed itself with the ridiculous suspension of Contador. Like "Miguel Indurain" said: "Someone wants to destroy this sport, there is no other reason for this" and Eddy Merckx: "Its a shame for this sport"
Agreed, a recent fresh new interview with Bjarne riis he also said that this sport his devoted his life for someone really wants to destroy this sport etc. it's just really sad to see |
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| Agathon France. June 28 2012 00:59. Posts 1378 | Profile # |
On June 28 2012 00:42 Copymizer wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 21:43 Brow23 wrote:
This sport destroyed itself with the ridiculous suspension of Contador. Like "Miguel Indurain" said: "Someone wants to destroy this sport, there is no other reason for this" and Eddy Merckx: "Its a shame for this sport"
Agreed, a recent fresh new interview with Bjarne riis he also said that this sport his devoted his life for someone really wants to destroy this sport etc. it's just really sad to see
Who? Except cheaters, i don't see anybody else who made actions or has any reason to kill this sport.
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| JitnikoVi Russian Federation. June 28 2012 01:02. Posts 396 | Profile # |
will there be a stream somewhere for this? :O
i dont have cable |
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| Hyperionnn Turkey. June 28 2012 01:03. Posts 4878 | Profile Blog # |
Riis is a confessed doper himself so It is not unexpected to him defend dopers lol
But UCI is really horrible imo. (Random chinese races entering World Tour, way too few races that count points for teams, some lame stage races worth more than a monument etc)
edit: http://www.steephill.tv/tour-de-france/#live you can find stream links thereLast edit: 2012-06-28 01:03:47 |
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| Goetzinho ftw Germany. June 28 2012 01:13. Posts 115 | Profile # |
On June 28 2012 00:59 Agathon wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 00:42 Copymizer wrote:
On June 22 2012 21:43 Brow23 wrote:
This sport destroyed itself with the ridiculous suspension of Contador. Like "Miguel Indurain" said: "Someone wants to destroy this sport, there is no other reason for this" and Eddy Merckx: "Its a shame for this sport"
Agreed, a recent fresh new interview with Bjarne riis he also said that this sport his devoted his life for someone really wants to destroy this sport etc. it's just really sad to see
Who? Except cheaters, i don't see anybody else who made actions or has any reason to kill this sport.
Everyone cheats in Cycling. Armstrong doped, Ullrich doped, Sastre doped, Evans, Schleck... EVERYONE. Its physically impossible to win without!
This sport is a joke, because its all about not get caught. This sport was great until they decided to try to get this sport clean. Before that everyone used EPO or something like that and it was fair.
No matter what. Contador is by far the best cyclist of this generation and everyone knows. |
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| Hyperionnn Turkey. June 28 2012 01:16. Posts 4878 | Profile Blog # |
On June 28 2012 01:13 Goetzinho ftw wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 00:59 Agathon wrote:
On June 28 2012 00:42 Copymizer wrote:
On June 22 2012 21:43 Brow23 wrote:
This sport destroyed itself with the ridiculous suspension of Contador. Like "Miguel Indurain" said: "Someone wants to destroy this sport, there is no other reason for this" and Eddy Merckx: "Its a shame for this sport"
Agreed, a recent fresh new interview with Bjarne riis he also said that this sport his devoted his life for someone really wants to destroy this sport etc. it's just really sad to see
Who? Except cheaters, i don't see anybody else who made actions or has any reason to kill this sport.
Everyone cheats in Cycling. Armstrong doped, Ullrich doped, Sastre doped, Evans, Schleck... EVERYONE. Its physically impossible to win without! This sport is a joke, because its all about not get caught. This sport was great until they decided to try to get this sport clean. Before that everyone used EPO or something like that and it was fair. No matter what. Contador is by far the best cyclist of this generation and everyone knows.
I didnt hear any rumors about Sastre and Evans, they are pretty clear imo.
Schlecks are working with Bruynell, who knows whats going on considering his crazy reputation with Armstrong and USPS.
And virtually everybody doped in 90's lol |
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| MassHysteria United States. June 28 2012 01:42. Posts 2300 | Profile # |
No Contador and no A. Schleck really take some of the excitement out for me  ...regardless it should be good but if I had to pick anyone, maybe Cadel again or Wiggins. Sanchez looks like a good underdog/surprise pick too.
Tony Martin on same team as Levi now? Nice. Haven't really kept up with cycling this season up until now but a pleasant surpise as I am rooting for my homestate guy Levi (although he has a tough challenge if he wants to win).
As for the sprint stages, I am excited also. Can Cavendish do it like in the HTC days with some different guys? With Cavendish and Wiggins( a contender) on the same team, it will be interesting to see what strategy they take on certain days too.
Also excited for Peter Sagan. Saw that guy up close when he came to Tour of Cali 2011, when he was still a relatively young guy breaking-out and he is beastly! Huge, strong legs.
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| Drolla Scotland. June 28 2012 02:03. Posts 385 | Profile # |
Beat me to it this year!
I'm still waiting for Denis Menchov to take a tour win and I a feeling it's possible! |
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| Hyperionnn Turkey. June 28 2012 02:14. Posts 4878 | Profile Blog # |
On June 28 2012 01:42 MassHysteria wrote:No Contador and no A. Schleck really take some of the excitement out for me ...regardless it should be good but if I had to pick anyone, maybe Cadel again or Wiggins. Sanchez looks like a good underdog/surprise pick too. Tony Martin on same team as Levi now? Nice. Haven't really kept up with cycling this season up until now but a pleasant surpise as I am rooting for my homestate guy Levi (although he has a tough challenge if he wants to win). As for the sprint stages, I am excited also. Can Cavendish do it like in the HTC days with some different guys? With Cavendish and Wiggins( a contender) on the same team, it will be interesting to see what strategy they take on certain days too. Also excited for Peter Sagan. Saw that guy up close when he came to Tour of Cali 2011, when he was still a relatively young guy breaking-out and he is beastly! Huge, strong legs.
Cav wont have a sprint train like HTC days, he said going for green is too hard for him he'll probably try to win stages like Robbie Mcewen and likely wont finish the race |
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| MassHysteria United States. June 28 2012 02:40. Posts 2300 | Profile # |
Ah, makes sense considering how much he relied on his teammates in HTC days. OFC no big surprise he prob won't finish the race though  Seems like they would want their guys focusing on helping Wiggins (if in contention) instead of helping Cavendish to just get up the hill to finish. |
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| sixfour England. June 28 2012 02:45. Posts 10372 | Profile Blog # |
| No Schleck is unfortunate, Wiggins fighting |
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| Jepsyn Canada. June 28 2012 02:58. Posts 317 | Profile # |
| Just wondering why you are leaving Ryder Hesjedal off of your contenders list as it is incomplete without him. The man just won the Giro and will be a force in the tour |
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