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| Cr4zyJeff United States. June 16 2012 02:29. Posts 18 | Profile # |
A Little background on me
I'm currently a monk trying to get by in Act 3 Inferno, grinding away to try and get Pre-nerf inferno mobs on farm. My goal is to beat inferno (legitimately, elites and all) before patch 1.0.3, because I'm stupid and proud, and while I agree with the changes Blizz is making, i want to be able to say "Ha, I don't need your nerfs."
Now that I'm at a level of proficiency where I can solo Act 3 Semi effectively (Killing the easier elite-packs, and skipping Arcane Enchanted, Frozen, Extra Health, Molten assholes) I need to start thinking about what to spend my farmed gold on. Little upgrades won't do it anymore, I refuse to get a totally new piece of gear for 10 more resists and 30 Vitality.
My Stats: With Breath of Heaven and Enchantress
Str:385
Dex: 1756
Vit: 621
Int: 282
Resist: 719
Armor: 7172
Attack Speed: 1.86
LoH: 550
DPS: 22859.34
So, in that spirit, I've decided to compile what I believe to be the Monk's "Best in Slot" items.
UPDATE FOR 1.0.3
Well, while I still find the gear posted in this thread to be exemplary for a Monk. This nerfs to Attack Speed make the order in which I rank these items (And their desirable stats) a tad obsolete.
A full update is coming, but for now, I'm going to give some priorities for stats and some key items I beleive are the true "Best-in-Slot" Monk for 1.0.3.
New Stats Priority:
Dexterity > Life on Hit\Life Steal > Block Percentage > Attack Speed > Crit Chance\Damage
Dexterity is still king, a top-tier Monk needs to be able to dole out serious damage. However, we need new avenues to make our survivability top-tier as well. Before, Attack Speed was an essential element to keeping Life on Hit feeding our HP bar, but now, having an attack speed above 2.0 is a serious luxury, so, why not just stack mass healing instead?
To mitigate inevtiable insane amounts of damage, Block Percentage takes center stage, and for this reason The Helm of Command and Justice Lantern become truly exceptional pieces of engame gear. In case you aren't aware, Helm of Command adds 8% Block Chance ALWAYS, and Justice Lantern an absolutely OUTRAGEOUS 11%!
What does this mean? It means with a top-rolled Sacred or Storm Shield, a Monk's block percentage can break 50%!
This means 50% of the time, the damage mobs are doing (after armor mitigation) is reduced by anywhere from 3000-4500 (based on the block amounts listed on Sacred and Storm Shields)
So that gets us to a point where (with Mantra of Evasion) our dodge is over 50%, and our Block is over 50%... that's some serious mitigation. Facerolling shouldn't be a problem.
Proposed Top-Tier Monk Stats
Dexterity: 2000+
Life: 40,000+
Armor: 8500+ (Unbuffed)
All Resist: 900+
Life on Hit: 1000+ (Can be a combination of LoH and Life Steal %, because Life Steal Scales well wth DPS)
Dodge %: 50.0+
Block %: 50.0+
Attack Speed: As High as Possible, meeting all the above requirements
DPS: 40,000+
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OLD STUFF
Desirable Stats
Dexterity > Attack Speed > Critical Hit Chance > Critical Hit Damage
Other Desirable effects: Movement Speed, Life on Hit, Life Steal, Spirit Regen, Life per Spirit Spent
Dex and IAS are most important for obvious reasons. Critical Hit Chance and Damage have some interesting side effects, if you can afford the passives that benefit them.
Fun Additional Effects: Increased\Reduced Elite Damage, Reduced Melee\Ranged Damage[/b]
So with further ado...
Helm
1. Mempo of Twilight (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/mempo-of-twilight)
Attack Speed is huge obivously, if this rolls with +Dex and one of the following: +Other Resist, +Armor or +Vit; this should be considered extremely valuable.
2. Andariel's Visage (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/andariels-visage)
Once again, obvious good helm is obvious. Crit Chance bonus is very nice. Roll an Andy's with 120+ Dex, and either +All Resist, +Vitality, +Armor. (This of course would require all your other gear to have Poison Resist and your “One With Everything stack)
3. Sexy Rare or Helm of Command
(http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/the-helm of-command)
Since a sexy rare lacks attack speed, it’s not entirely ideal, but stick to the formula and you’ll be pretty well off. +Dex, +Vit, +Armor, +All Resist, +Other Resist
Chest
1. Tal-Rasha’s Guardianship (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/tal-rashas-guardianship)
It’s a close tie between this and Tyrael’s Might, because I like a chest piece to focus more on Defense, but the IAS is simply too useful with Life on Hit builds. Either is a phenomenal chest piece for monk. However, this needs a nice +Dex to roll.
2. Tyrael’s Might (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/tyraels-might)
I’ll be choosing Tyrael’s Might, because I want t sit in groups of 50 mobs and laugh because your damage is fail. If Tyrael’s Might rolls with +Other Resist, + Vitality, or +Armor, consider yourself a lottery winner.
3. Sexy Rare
Bracers
1. Lacuni Prowlers (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/lacuni-prowlers)
Are we seeing a theme here? IAS and Movement Speed are dominant. Granted, the armor on these is low for my taste, but the desired rolls should be apparent: +Dex and one of the following +All Resist, +Other Resist, +Armor.
2. Strongarm Bracers (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/strongarm-bracers)
I like these. They have some fun bonuses like knockback and Crit Chance. Sadly, there’s only one additional prop that rolls on these, so 70+ All Resist is really the only thing that can be in this position.
3. Hot Rare
100+ Dex; 100+ Vit; 70+ All Resist; 50+ Other Resist; Reduced Damage from Melee Attacks
Boots
1. Fire Walkers (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/fire-walkers)
I know, shocker, I put the IAS boots in second, but these are just bomb. You’ll have plenty of IAS in all your other slots. Get a +All Resist, +Armor, +Vitality bonus and you should be able to walk on water, in addition to walking through fire.
2. Zunimassas Journey (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/zunimassas-journey)
Why did you put these here CrazyJeff, are you crazy? NO, I’m not. Boj Anglers are stupid, and I won’t even put them #3, a sexy rare is infinitely better than Boj Anglers.
Zunimassa’s gives you +6% Poison Damage, Movement Speed, 15% IAS, and it can roll with a 150+ Dex and +All Resist. This is Best-in-Slot, so your Damage is going to be amazingly high. The think about +X% increases, is that these scale incredibly well with high damage. So all of a sudden that “Add’s 6% Poison Damage” is taking your DPS to new, unthinkable levels.
3. Sexy rare, Boj Anglers are a cop-out with no protection.
Belt
1. Sexiest of Rares
150+Dex, 150+Vit, 70+ All Resist, 50+ Other Resist, +Armor, +Flavour of your choice.
2. String of Ears (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/string-of-ears)
While not as useful as a perfectly rolled rare, this has a very nice additional effect. “Reduced damage from Melee Attacks 20%.” We are Monks, we take Melee damage, and the reduction granted from these is incredibly helpful, and makes up for the lower All Resist and level 52 Stat Rolls. Life on Hit is a nice bonus too, every little bit helps.
3. Hellcat Waistguard (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/hellcat-waistguard)
This is here for one reason. It’s a solid companion for your Firewalkers. Granted, this needs to roll an amazing +Dexterity bonus to be considered useful, but to be honest, there are way better rares that can roll.
Gloves
1. The Sexiest of Rares
15% IAS, 150+Dex, 150+Vit, 70+ All Resist, 50+ Other Resist, +Armor. Moving on.
Shoulders
1. The Sexiest of Rares
150+Dex, 150+Vit, 70+ All Resist, 50+ Other Resist, +Armor, +Flavour of your choice. Moving on.
Pants
1. The Sexiest of Rares
150+Dex, 150+Vit, 70+ All Resist, 50+ Other Resist, +Armor, +Flavour of your choice. Moving on.
Editors Note: You’ll hopefully notice that there are some similarities between the last 4 Item slots.. This is because Blizz goofed a bit on Itemization, and items are missing really fun flavor in this game. Hopefully the upcoming buff to Legendaries gives me a chance to put more interesting items in these slots, because that was boring.
FINALLY THINGS CAN GET FUN AGAIN
Amulet
1. Ouroboros (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/ouroboros)
This is just... Yes. If you find this with +Attack Speed, and a +All Resist\Other Resist, you are a lucky asshole.
2. The (Insert Hottest Celebrity Here) of Rares
I think you know what goes here.
3. Flavor of Time (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/the-flavor-of-time)
Respectable, it’s like a baby version of the Ouroboros with the right rolls.
Rings
1. Skull Grasp (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/skull-grasp)
Your goal should be to farm these. These are awesome, seriously. If that +1 Random Property winds up being Attack Speed, put this in your jewelry slot and forget about it.
2. Natalya’s Mark (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/natalyas-mark)
Need I say more? If this rolls with Life on Hit and All Resist, put it in your slot and forget about it.
3. Screaming Chain (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/screaming-chain)
See above, but this doesn’t guarantee rolling Attack Speed, so a really nice Screaming Chain will have 15% IAS and Life on Hit.
4. Band of Fallen Heroes (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/band-of-fallen-heroes)
When paired with the above ring, you get a 15% MF and GF Bonus. If you are stupid-lucky, and roll this with +Dex and +Attack Speed. Its valuable.
5. Sexy Rare Ring.
Attack Speed, Life of Hit, Dex, All Resist. Lather, Rinse, Repeat.
NOW WHAT DO I PUT IN MY HANDS!
1. The Rare Fist Weapon\Dagger\Sword of your choice (In both hands?)
Ideal Stats:
DPS: 1100+
Dexterity 100+
Increased Attack Speed
Life on Hit 800+
Critical Hit Damage +100%
(This is Best in Slot Rememeber? I can dream)
2. Stormshield (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/stormshield)
If you’re into shields, the only thing that can beat this is a perfectly rolled rare that gives you a Massive Dex Boost, Vitality, High Block Chance, High Armor and Reduced Damage from Melee Attacks, and Resistance.
3. The Rare Staff to End All Rare Staffs
(You’re going to have ridiculous Attack Speed and protection, you probably don’t need a shield, and this baby is gonna hit HARD.)
Ideal Stats:
DPS: 2000+ (I think this is possible? Maybe?)
Dexterity 100+
Increased Attack Speed
Life on Hit 800+
Critical Hit Damage +100%
Now, to have a word on Legendary Weapons,
In theory, I think it’s possible for a Legendary\Set Item to roll with 1000+DPS.
(Even though I haven’t seen it yet)
Hopefully once legendaries get a buff, we can actually use Sets and Legendaries and have it seem like a viable Best-in-Slot scenario.
1. Hallowed Touch (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/hallowed-touch)
This just looks really awesome to me. A nice fat Dex Boost, both special Monk buffs, and if it rolls 500+Life on Hit, Attack Speed, and 1000+ DPS, I’d be ecstatic. With the set bonus, you get an additional 5% Attack Speed (I look forward to seeing the unstoppable Monk with 4.00 Attack Speed) so naturally, this would be partnered with:
2. Hallowed Barrier (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/hallowed-barrier)
Ugggh, I want this shield to be good SO BAD. Partner this with your Hallowed Touch, and you’ll look like a glowing, angelic, demon slayer of heaven. The set bonus gives +40 All Resist on top of the 60 that the shield gives. A potential 25% chance to block, if this rolls with +Armor (for over 1000), 100+ Dexterity, and 100+ Vitality, I’m a pretty happy camper.
I think that’ll do it for now.
I’ll be updating and editing this guide periodically. Maybe I’ll do some Character Builder setups, so I can see the theoretical numbers of this super-monk.
I’d also like to try building a monk that uses Set Items exclusively, and see what his numbers look like, so will likely be an added section to this. I’d love to see\hear the Monk community’s suggestions\comments.
-CrazyJeffLast edit: 2012-06-22 04:39:02 |
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| carrion United Kingdom. June 16 2012 04:14. Posts 83 | Profile # | |
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| Battleaxe United States. June 16 2012 04:22. Posts 746 | Profile Blog # |
Don't think I'm far enough through inferno to comment on your choices or reasoning, but I'm curious as people are talking about the attack speed nerf hitting monks pretty hard, will that change the priority of attack speed on your list to be less valuable then crit or crit damage?
If so I think you may end up having to rework your list. Nice writeup though, will definitely take a lot of this into consideration trying to get my monk through interno |
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| Cr4zyJeff United States. June 16 2012 04:42. Posts 18 | Profile # |
@Battleaxe
It depends on how they alter Increased Attack Speed. One of their intended solutions is adding diminishing returns, and another is globally reducing the values on the items.
This seems a tad problematic, but Increased Attack Speed will still be crucial for optimal Life Steal. Not to mention, they are altering monster HP and Damage in Act 2-4 Inferno, so everything will be nerfed by comparison, so it may still be as effective when scaled against this. |
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| Gescom Canada. June 16 2012 05:07. Posts 2749 | Profile # |
Honestly, rares are the best in pretty much every slot. I think you're overvaluing IAS.. especially considering the nerf.
Tzo Krin's Gaze is really nice in the hat slot, as well. |
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| Amui Canada. June 16 2012 06:02. Posts 3133 | Profile Blog # |
On June 16 2012 05:07 Gescom wrote:
Honestly, rares are the best in pretty much every slot. I think you're overvaluing IAS.. especially considering the nerf.
Tzo Krin's Gaze is really nice in the hat slot, as well.
I'd have to agree with this. In BiS gear(because that's what were discussing),
If you are dual wielding socketed weaps with +200% critical damage(lol...), every % crit chance increases dps by a massive amount. Critical hit chance/damage arguably scale even better than aspd does in BiS gear, at +400% increased crit damage each % of crit is worth roughly 4-5% attack speed. Without good spirit dumps, especially in BiS gear where healing far exceeds damage taken, aspd is actually not that good of a stat for damage(relatively, it's still going to be good).Last edit: 2012-06-16 06:04:09 |
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| ZerG~LegenD Sweden. June 16 2012 06:07. Posts 697 | Profile Blog # |
| Does "Adds 5-6% to Poison Damage" add 5-6% of your total damage, as poison damage. Or does it increase your poison damage by 5-6%? Also, the attack speed from Zunimassa’s doesn't work. |
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| VoirDire Sweden. June 17 2012 05:24. Posts 1774 | Profile # |
I think you undervalue sockets in general and socket on helm and weapon in particular. Also, Tzo Krin's Gaze is probably better than andariel.
EDIT: Also, Blackthorne's Medal is even better than Ouroboros.
EDIT2:
(Killing the easier elite-packs, and skipping Arcane Enchanted, Frozen, Extra Health, Molten assholes)
Those are the easy packs since they're avoidable. Ok, maybe not molten for a melee char, but the others. Try invulnerable minions+horde soul lashers  Last edit: 2012-06-17 08:55:01 |
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| dyepaintball088 United States. June 20 2012 07:34. Posts 34 | Profile # |
| Needs update with new patch. |
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| Cr4zyJeff United States. June 22 2012 04:38. Posts 18 | Profile # |
Added an updated section at the top, discussing 1.0.3
Full Gear Writeup to follow in the coming days. |
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| Daozzt United States. June 22 2012 05:09. Posts 587 | Profile # |
| There's really no such thing as "best in slot" for monks, because there's different ways to play, and shield/1h is not even the most efficient in terms of farming speed. Either way, if you can afford to buy a justice lantern, you could have fully geared your monk with that money with typical all resist/resist/dex and cleared inferno weeks ago. |
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| PR4Y United States. July 04 2012 12:20. Posts 258 | Profile # |
just wanted to necro this to point out that it was a stolen post from diablowiki LOL I was googling "monk best in slot" and found that thread and this thread right after it (diablowiki was posted on the 15th)
otherwise it's an OK thread (a bit outdated) but some of the basic principles and gear still apply.
Source:
http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?833829-Monk-Best-in-Slot-ThreadLast edit: 2012-07-04 12:21:50 |
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| YunhOLee Canada. July 04 2012 12:44. Posts 2421 | Profile Blog # |
On July 04 2012 12:20 PR4Y wrote:just wanted to necro this to point out that it was a stolen post from diablowiki LOL I was googling "monk best in slot" and found that thread and this thread right after it (diablowiki was posted on the 15th) otherwise it's an OK thread (a bit outdated) but some of the basic principles and gear still apply. Source: http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?833829-Monk-Best-in-Slot-Thread
a little bit more research would have shown that its probably not stolen since OP's name in both threads are the same.. -_- |
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