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 cabboose   New Zealand. June 16 2012 15:33. Posts 18
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To put it quite simply, I think I am decreasing in skill, what do I mean by that? Well I was one of those people who had never played a RTS in my life started off as terran, switched to random for a bit then changed to zerg, so thus I was bronze for a longggg time, I made it out, got to silver, got to gold, then Got to platinum (being promoted from new seasons).

Right after the new changes to the Match making system where implemented I was demoted back to gold, as far as I was concerned before I was beyond what the system deemed as gold, but after a week I was right back where I was when I was first promoted to Gold, through out the whole last season I was like this, even after 100+ wins and at least 300+ games I felt I was not realllly making progress, the system seemed to have warped what was gold, perhaps a whole bunch of platinum's and diamond players dropped down there as well and so on and so forth with the other leagues, so every league had had it's overall skill level increased.

So At the current moment I am at what I would call a sheer face cliff, every time I play I feel I am not supposed to be in gold league, that people are just completely outplaying me, It frustrates me, and I suppose I have a big fear of dropping back to silver league (or bronze for that matter).

I do not need help with game mechanics and/or strategy's all the pro tips in the world is not going to help with my current mind set that I have.

So I ask do you think I should call it quits?
Do I need to go smurf on a new account to get up to speed on the new ladder?
Should I race switch?
Should I be doing something different?
Is there something I should be doing to drop this mindset?

I hope some of you fine people on TL can help me.

Cheers in advance.

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 Megabuster123   Canada. June 16 2012 15:46. Posts 1795
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if you're not enjoying yourself, then fuck it. Everyone below pro level is just playing for the purpose of fun, be it enjoying getting better or just the actual playing of the game.

If you know why you're playing, it becomes easier to make that decision. If you're playing to get better, your league doesn't matter. If you're playing for the purpose of just having fun, keep playing till it's not fun anymore.
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 Remontoir   Australia. June 16 2012 15:46. Posts 4
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You should care about actually improving at the game. You should realize that the whole "i'm ranked gold but my skill level is platinum" is just http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority.

Switching to a smurf is going to do nothing. The blizzard ranking algorithm is not cheating you. Falling behind in terms of skill is not a bad thing. Switching race is going to be worse for your ranking. Stop looking for quick fixes.

Quit or don't quit. If you don't enjoy playing then you should probably quit.
Boom baby.
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  Belial88   United States. June 16 2012 15:48. Posts 5217Profile Blog # 
I guarantee you are not playing enough games. Play more, and play smart - by playing smart, I mean avoid going on TL (except posting games you don't understand your loss in, and by all means, please do that, it's very helpful!) or reddit or even watching tournaments or streams (i mean they are fun, so whatever, but if you want to improve as a player, you need to play more, watch less, streams don't really help you improve unless you watch them efficiently).

First, you clearly need to get a build order down. I'd say spend a day in build order tester making sure your benchmarks and build order matches a pros up to the 9:00 mark. I'd say this is a big problem in the lower levels - people do builds that you would never see a pro do, or fail to execute them competently. Learn to do builds right, your games need to progress and look like a pro game, and in the early stages, really they need to be identical. I can guarantee unless you are in masters, your first 9 minutes look nothing like a pro's. Learn a solid build order, learn what you need to scout for when doing the build (ie in standard FE play, learn how to identify all-ins that threaten the build).

Secondly, you just need to play wayyyyy more. At least 400 games a season. just play more. Every hour you spend on reddit, is a good 3-5 games you could have played. Play more, glhf more, gg more, so you can move on more and play more. You just need to log games, you are clearly too wrapped up in 'omg im losing'. Just play more, dont worry about losses.

Third, analyze every loss. Watch every replay you lose. Even if it's 8x speed, just watch it. At your level especially, note your supply blocks and lack in production, and what the direct effects of it are (omg i got supply blocked at 51/51, and his push hit me at 60 supply, if I had 4 more marauders there I would have held easily!)

I would even recommend watching replays you win - see if you could have held better, see if you screwed up somewhere, see if you won because the opponent messed up and really could have beat you if he had just moved out, fix that problem.

I mean personally I watch about 90% of my replays, most of the time just going 8x through them real quick, and just looking at key moments to see how my macro went (ie every zvp i play, I watch vs ffe about my macro up to 8 minutes, and for idle larva, and against gateway expands, i see if i could have been greedier, or was too greedy, and if i could have lost if the opponent simply moved out, or if i coul dhave won if i simply attacked).

You should also watch every replay and note your macro. When does it completely fail? Oh, you bank 1k+ when you attack? Start queueing up max units at every production facility right before you push. Oh, you get supply blocked every time at 60? Blindly at 50 suply now on, make one extra supply thing.

Learn to analyze your replays. Your macro is terrible, but you need to learn how to improve it. Learn you rproblem areas in your macro, fix them. Watch every loss you have - you should never lose to the same thing twice. You can learn something from every loss. Always.

No, dont create a new account. Stick to whatever race you like playing, you will get much better that way. I started as random up to masters, but I went with my worst race, zerg, because I enjoyed playing it the most. Literally, and Ive tested this, my toss and terran is platinum, but my zerg is high masters (although when i was random, i got to masters using all 3 races). Yes, I was best at toss at the time, but I just liked zerg the most, and I know I would not be as high level if I had stuck with the other races, in the long term.

If you dont enjoy the game, then quit. That's pretty straightforward. But I will say the higher level you get, the more fun it gets. It's like, hitting high masters is like hitting level 60 in Wow (or whatever the level cap is these days). Theres a whole new game at high level play, suddenly all of the goofy, bad stuff no longer works. 2 gate into fast expand is not viable at the highest levels of play, but it is frustrating when you have bad macro and in diamond. So... just play more,youll beat the bullshit, and the game will have a very direct flow eventually. ie zvp, toss goes FFE, zerg holds pressure, then zerg denies third of toss for a while, then toss gets third and you have to get broodlords before toss has 3+ colosi. But only when I was 200 points lower in 800 points masters, my games didnt look like that because my macro wasn't as good, I was short about 10 supply than what I regularly hit these days, and toss simply always took his third against me and I could never do anything about it if i played macro, or id be really all-in with pressure because i never had enough drones.

If you are in a slump, just play it out. In a week you'll be fine. ladder works like that - and if you have a huge win streak, you will be hit hard with a losing streak as your ladder mmr recorrects.

Dont worry about your league. You are exactly where you belong. Low diamonds are just platinums, but high platinums are only platinums. No one is 'high diamond low masters", they are just diamonds who dont realize the sytem only is making them feel good about themselves.
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 monk   United States. June 16 2012 15:56. Posts 6990
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Read strategy forum guidelines. This doesn't qualify for a [H] thread.
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