| Fulla United Kingdom. July 09 2012 00:15. Posts 447 | Profile # |
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| strongandbig United States. July 09 2012 00:16. Posts 3327 | Profile Blog # |
Fulla and WBG I'm announcing it here: I consider you persuading Artanis to change his mind to be something that comes from a scum mindset. I will officially oppose any action that leaves both of you alive.
We need to kill Fulla and Mattchew. |
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| Fulla United Kingdom. July 09 2012 00:16. Posts 447 | Profile # |
Sigh and if Matt attacks me WITH EVERYTHING? How will you keep me alive?
If Prom attacks you with everything, how will you stop this?
Game is over :/
Was fun. |
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| Artanis[Xp] Netherlands. July 09 2012 00:16. Posts 3515 | Profile Blog # |
On July 09 2012 00:15 Fulla wrote:
The global card, cannot be no longer be used?
It has been used ten times already and is therefore expired. |
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| strongandbig United States. July 09 2012 00:17. Posts 3327 | Profile Blog # |
posting this again until everyone's talked about it
REPOSTING FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE PREVIOUS PAGE:
SO HERE IS THE PLAN.
WE KILL MATTCHEW AND FULLA TONIGHT AND NO ONE ELSE.
Here's the logic. This is MYLO, but it's a double lynch MYLO - as I explained above, we have the option to kill one person or two without losing. Picking Mattchew and Fulla makes this the hardest to disrupt, and if we kill those two we are certain to get one scum; the only realistic way we don't is if zealos is scum, and if that's the case we've lost already since town collectively is an idiot and didn't listen to me about him. I don't think a wbg/prome scum team is a possibility due to study of prome's filter; the only scummy things in there were in his interaction with Mattchew, and his actions towards Mattchew make no sense from a scum point of view unless Mattchew is scum also. If anyone thinks WBG/Prome is a possible scum team then explain why ASAP.
We can't kill him in one turn (he has too many blockers) and therefore he'll have his combo before the next attack phase.
Once we've killed those two, if one of them flips scum we can use relational analysis to figure out the last scum team member. Either WBG or I will be dead from the mafia monster, so the remaining players will be Zealos, Prome, and whichever of WBG or I survived. Zealos then hits the scum between WBG and Prome with his combo; even if it doesn't kill them straight away, it should bring them low enough that the other one of those two can kill them off with creatures. Zealos will have enough HP then to survive the mafia monster, and town wins.
So how can we make sure scum go along with this plan?
Pretty simple. First, we make sure that Mattchew and Fulla swing all their creature power at each other. If either of them haven't done this by a certain point in time - preferably halfway to the attack phase deadline - we assume that person is claiming scum and focus fire on them, and save the other one.
Then, after all of their creatures are tapped, WBG and Promethelax each swing all of their creatures at one or the other of Mattchew and Fulla. They can't kill each other, so the only way this fails is if one of them is scum and decides to claim it by attacking me. I can survive an attack from WBG, since I can block his ground creatures and then sacrifice all my stuff before damage goes on the stack. Then he will have to sacrifice three of his creatures; if he leaves one of the ground guys alive all the damage will fizzle since the creature was blocked, and if he leaves one of the hovermyr I'll only take one damage and survive. The same thing goes for an attack from Promethelax; I can block all his stuff except Commander Eesha, and if I then sacrifice all my stuff he'll have to sacrifice all but Commander Eesha, which will only do 2 damage to me so I will survive.
We will give WBG and Promethelax a deadline to attack with their stuff, probably something like 1 hour before the attack phase deadline. Then, Zealos uses ornithopter of doom to attack anyone who isn't following the plan.
DOES EVERYONE AGREE TO THIS PLAN? |
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| Artanis[Xp] Netherlands. July 09 2012 00:17. Posts 3515 | Profile Blog # |
On July 09 2012 00:16 strongandbig wrote:
Fulla and WBG I'm announcing it here: I consider you persuading Artanis to change his mind to be something that comes from a scum mindset. I will officially oppose any action that leaves both of you alive.
The PMs were with my Cohost. |
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| strongandbig United States. July 09 2012 00:18. Posts 3327 | Profile Blog # |
oh. well fuck.
Still I don't want to leave both fulla and wbg alive. I don't understand why they're so resistant to the "kill matt and fulla" plan. |
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| Fulla United Kingdom. July 09 2012 00:19. Posts 447 | Profile # |
On July 09 2012 00:10 strongandbig wrote:
okay
that does conflict with my previous read of mattchew being scum based on the "thinking about balance from the scum point of view" scum tell
maybe mattchew/wbg is the scum team?
Lol, you are the one that tried to change the rule on your sacrificing.
The only rule I opposed was the 1/1 2/2 instant Mafia win, if you think that is scummy trying to STOP a scum instant win, then I honestly give up with you. |
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| strongandbig United States. July 09 2012 00:19. Posts 3327 | Profile Blog # |
On July 09 2012 00:16 Fulla wrote:
Sigh and if Matt attacks me WITH EVERYTHING? How will you keep me alive?
If Prom attacks you with everything, how will you stop this?
Game is over :/
Was fun.
you have six life moron
he only has six damage available, total
plus festering goblin
seriously, what the fuck man |
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| strongandbig United States. July 09 2012 00:20. Posts 3327 | Profile Blog # |
On July 09 2012 00:19 Fulla wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 09 2012 00:10 strongandbig wrote:
okay
that does conflict with my previous read of mattchew being scum based on the "thinking about balance from the scum point of view" scum tell
maybe mattchew/wbg is the scum team?
Lol, you are the one that tried to change the rule on your sacrificing. The only rule I opposed was the 1/1 2/2 instant Mafia win, if you think that is scummy trying to STOP a scum instant win, then I honestly give up with you.
I thought one of you pm'ed artanis saying "that sacrificing thing is imba."
Turns out you didnt so I withdraw that comment.
It still seems like you are both trying to pick apart the plan without proposing constructive things in turn. |
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| WereBugs-Go Korea (South). July 09 2012 00:22. Posts 172 | Profile # |
On July 09 2012 00:19 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 09 2012 00:16 Fulla wrote:
Sigh and if Matt attacks me WITH EVERYTHING? How will you keep me alive?
If Prom attacks you with everything, how will you stop this?
Game is over :/
Was fun.
you have six life moron he only has six damage available, total plus festering goblin seriously, what the fuck man
He still has 3 mana left.
He still has 5 cards left.
He still has not played a thing this turn.
He still has a RED deck. You know what red decks are good at? |
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| Fulla United Kingdom. July 09 2012 00:23. Posts 447 | Profile # |
On July 09 2012 00:19 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 09 2012 00:16 Fulla wrote:
Sigh and if Matt attacks me WITH EVERYTHING? How will you keep me alive?
If Prom attacks you with everything, how will you stop this?
Game is over :/
Was fun.
you have six life moron he only has six damage available, total plus festering goblin seriously, what the fuck man
and 3 mana left untapped with 5 cards in hands, all creatures with haste.
You don't think he's purposely not posting and waiting until the last second to drop a creature down?
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| strongandbig United States. July 09 2012 00:30. Posts 3327 | Profile Blog # |
I'll bet you a dollar that I can keep him from killing you even if he does that. He only has three mana.
Anyway that only matters if one of them decides to claim scum by attacking me. |
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| strongandbig United States. July 09 2012 00:30. Posts 3327 | Profile Blog # |
| Anyway what do you want to do instead? |
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| Fulla United Kingdom. July 09 2012 00:34. Posts 447 | Profile # |
Sacrifice everything, wipe 3 of everyone's board and also use festering goblin to kill another goblin.
He might not be able to do 6 damage to me then.
Atleast then me + Zeal might be able to finish Prom. |
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| strongandbig United States. July 09 2012 02:08. Posts 3327 | Profile Blog # |
| but you forget, I want you to die as well as him. |
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| Mattchew United States. July 09 2012 02:12. Posts 5120 | Profile Blog # |
| I can do way more than 6 damage lol |
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| strongandbig United States. July 09 2012 02:33. Posts 3327 | Profile Blog # |
well only if you play stuff and then no one stops you
anyway
are you okay with you and fulla dying this turn? |
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| Mattchew United States. July 09 2012 02:40. Posts 5120 | Profile Blog # |
On July 09 2012 02:33 strongandbig wrote:
well only if you play stuff and then no one stops you
anyway
are you okay with you and fulla dying this turn?
why would i be ok with myself dying? |
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| Mattchew United States. July 09 2012 02:46. Posts 5120 | Profile Blog # |
| S&B why are you trying to kill a townie? |
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