 SupLilSon Malaysia. June 18 2012 18:45. Posts 3172 | Profile # |
On June 18 2012 18:43 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 18:40 SupLilSon wrote:
On June 18 2012 18:39 Yello wrote:
On June 18 2012 18:37 Domination wrote:
This game is impressively mediocre.
It's also interesting to see that the Zerg army is actually more cost- and supply-effective then the Terran army. Zerg behind one base all the game and still winning the engagements.
The illusion of zerg needing to be way up in bases vs Terran had a lot to do with ling/bling/muta being the standard imo. Now that zergs actually use infestor/BL/Ultra their army is a lot more cost efficient.
Terran is the new Zerg uh. Great game design.
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| zhurai United States. June 18 2012 18:45. Posts 5561 | Profile Blog # |
On June 18 2012 18:44 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 18:43 Snowbear wrote:
Okay I am totally clueless about this game. After the first successful push followed by good aggression and macro, I thought supernova had this? Am I missing something here?
Zerg can tech to ultras and infestors and broodlords while being on 3 bases. Even after loosing a base. And supernova lost because of... TANKS! Stop making those nerfed pieces of shit!
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| andaylin United States. June 18 2012 18:45. Posts 9487 | Profile # |
| So, what kind of all in is Sniper gonna do on Antiga? hahaha, or try and win in the late game? o.O |
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| Wintex Norway. June 18 2012 18:45. Posts 4819 | Profile Blog # |
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 Liquid`Jinro Sweden. June 18 2012 18:45. Posts 32587 | Profile Blog # |
On June 18 2012 18:43 GreyKnight wrote:
it looks like supernova lost because he let zerg being strong in his head.
Honestly, a bit of this I think - I know he thinks Zerg is really hard now (same with every other terran btw), but..... that game should really not be loseable -___-;;
I thought he played good up until late game where it looked like he didnt have enough rax? It's really hard to adjust from th e position of 'I'm way ahead' to 'I'm barely ahead' or 'it's even' and I think he just kept playing as if he was way ahead even though he at some point wasn't anymore. |
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| dabbeljuh Germany. June 18 2012 18:46. Posts 131 | Profile # |
hi, dont know if this is the right place, but is anybody here who is good with linux and has tried the gomtv streaming? if i use it as described on the webpage, I get the following error message
/scratch/local2/gom/sjp-GOMstreamer-991ccf8/linux>>./play.sh
File "/scratch/local2/gom/sjp-GOMstreamer-991ccf8/gomstreamer.py", line 337
except Exception as exc:
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SyntaxError: invalid syntax
dont know what to, any help is appreciated. |
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| Latty Germany. June 18 2012 18:46. Posts 548 | Profile # |
On June 18 2012 18:43 Snowbear wrote:
Okay I am totally clueless about this game. After the first successful push followed by good aggression and macro, I thought supernova had this? Am I missing something here?
he lost i think like 3 armys totally unneccecary. like artosis said, 2/2 wasnt even done and he walked all the way to the zerg 3rd base to lose the whole army.
he basically threw away his advantage and sniper defended very well |
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| iMonAhorsE Germany. June 18 2012 18:46. Posts 234 | Profile # |
| David Kim: "Tanks are too strong in TvZ" |
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| RolleMcKnolle Germany. June 18 2012 18:46. Posts 721 | Profile Blog # |
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| pdd Australia. June 18 2012 18:46. Posts 8261 | Profile Blog # |
On June 18 2012 18:42 DarKcS wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 18:39 KonohaFlash wrote:
On June 18 2012 18:31 FuzzyJAM wrote:
If Supernova somehow loses this game it's going to be pretty fucking embarrassing.
How would it be embarrassing? This is how TvZ is supposed to be after patch 
Most of the buffs were mental. Get over it. I never saw a queen even hit a hellion in that match.
While Supernova's mentality probably made him lose the game, but the queens absolutely had a role in the game when they kept the hellions away from the creep and everytime he killed a tumor, 3 new ones would go up. One of the reasons Supernova couldn't really push well after he had destroyed the third was the creep spread. |
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 MaNaVoId June 18 2012 18:46. Posts 490 | Profile # |
On June 18 2012 18:45 andaylin wrote:
So, what kind of all in is Sniper gonna do on Antiga? hahaha, or try and win in the late game? o.O
Of coz try and win in late game, zerg failing all-ins is the only factor keeping tvz winrate from not heavily favouring the zerg on ladder |
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| teddyoojo Germany. June 18 2012 18:47. Posts 2404 | Profile Blog # |
On June 18 2012 18:43 Bashion wrote:
WTF?
After Sniper was way down in supply, in decided to go outside cause i was sure he would be dead soon.
How did he come back?
infestors |
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| Woizit June 18 2012 18:47. Posts 727 | Profile # |
| Supernova looked terribly nervous, I lost count the number of times he double stimmed. |
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| zhurai United States. June 18 2012 18:47. Posts 5561 | Profile Blog # |
On June 18 2012 18:45 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 18:43 GreyKnight wrote:
it looks like supernova lost because he let zerg being strong in his head.
Honestly, a bit of this I think - I know he thinks Zerg is really hard now (same with every other terran btw), but..... that game should really not be loseable -___-;; I thought he played good up until late game where it looked like he didnt have enough rax? It's really hard to adjust from th e position of 'I'm way ahead' to 'I'm barely ahead' or 'it's even' and I think he just kept playing as if he was way ahead even though he at some point wasn't anymore.
honestly it looked like he transitioned into some weird bio mech (With more emphasis on mech) after the zerg transitioned into ling bane infestor
so he was like... a bit of marine marauder..... and a bunch of tanks and thors
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| andaylin United States. June 18 2012 18:47. Posts 9487 | Profile # |
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| FrostedMiniWheats United States. June 18 2012 18:47. Posts 11228 | Profile # |
| idk Artosis, Byul had success with it xD |
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| teddyoojo Germany. June 18 2012 18:47. Posts 2404 | Profile Blog # |
roach ling bling allin
only 2 queens
ok now 3 queen thats weirdLast edit: 2012-06-18 18:48:17 |
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| andaylin United States. June 18 2012 18:48. Posts 9487 | Profile # |
On June 18 2012 18:46 MaNaVoId wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 18:45 andaylin wrote:
So, what kind of all in is Sniper gonna do on Antiga? hahaha, or try and win in the late game? o.O
Of coz try and win in late game, zerg failing all-ins is the only factor keeping tvz winrate from not heavily favouring the zerg on ladder
Nah, late game ZvT on Antiga is almost impossible against a competent Terran. |
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| FakeDeath Malaysia. June 18 2012 18:48. Posts 4044 | Profile # |
On June 18 2012 18:44 thepeonwhocould wrote:
I guess everyone is suggesting that Supernova sits back and let's the zerg macro up to broodlord/infestor or Ultralisk and make 5 bases. Did you guys see what happened when Sniper got his late game army? Sniper crushes Supernova despite a 40 supply deficit. And Artosis/Tastless seem to be suggesting that SuperNova should have been more passive? Terran has to pressure in TvZ. SuperNova is a top player and those attacks were not mistakes. I think Artosis/Tastless are out of touch with the TvZ metagame, they need to go talk to some top korean Terrans.
Artosis always keeping up with the korean scene metagame.
Don't blame balance. Supernova bungled that game super hard.
Doing small pushes like that and continuing donating unit to Sniper and Sniper was playing very cost efficiently since he
was way behind.
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| MaNaVoId June 18 2012 18:48. Posts 490 | Profile # |
On June 18 2012 18:46 Latty wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 18:43 Snowbear wrote:
Okay I am totally clueless about this game. After the first successful push followed by good aggression and macro, I thought supernova had this? Am I missing something here?
he lost i think like 3 armys totally unneccecary. like artosis said, 2/2 wasnt even done and he walked all the way to the zerg 3rd base to lose the whole army. he basically threw away his advantage and sniper defended very well
If any race is up 50 supply against terran, ahead in economy, they dun even need any upgrade timings or good army controls to crush terran. |
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