| t0ssboy Bulgaria. June 18 2012 18:06. Posts 371 | Profile # |
Hello,guys i am a brood war player that wants to start playing sc2 but i must 1st of all get a new pc.I have chosen 4 configurations which i will post here.Can you guys tell me which pc will run starcraft better than the other pc's and on what graphics settings.
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CPU- INTEL DUAL-CORE E3400 2x2.6GHz
MB INTEL G41 DUAL DDR3, PCI-EX, 6CH, LAN
RAM- 4 GB DDR3
HDD -500 GB SAMSUNG SATA II
VGA-NVIDIA GeForce GT 520 1GB
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Motherboard-A75 FCH Chipset FM1
CPU - X3 A6 3500 3x2.1GHz FM1
RAM8-1333 DDR3 !
Video Card- Radeon HD 6410D 2048MB DDR3
HDD- 500 GB SATA 3
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Motherboard- Intel H61
CPU- Intel G530 2х 2400MHz
RAM - 4-1333 DDR3
Video Card - GT 520 2048DDR3 HDMI
HDD-1000Gb 7200 Sata3
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MotherBoard- A75 FCH Chipset FM1 Sata 3, USB3!
CPU - X3 3500 3x2.1GHz FM1
RAM - 8-1333 DDR3
Video Card - Radeon HD 6410D 1024MB DDR3
HDD - 1000Gb 7200 Sata3Last edit: 2012-06-18 18:07:22 |
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| Nabutso June 18 2012 18:19. Posts 351 | Profile # |
If these are prebuilts I hope you don't consider any of them.
You can build a system for about $400-$450 that'll run SC2 fairly well.
but out of those, option 3 is the closest to an SC2 machineLast edit: 2012-06-18 18:20:16 |
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| SiNKami United States. June 18 2012 18:46. Posts 1766 | Profile Blog # |
| option 3 by far but if these are prebuilt, you should really reconsider. |
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| LJ June 18 2012 20:06. Posts 203 | Profile # |
Option 3 is the only one that has a CPU that is not terrible intel celeron G530 but the graphics cards in everyone of those systems is the lowest of the low.
If those are the graphics card available then you are better off buying a COMPUTER then installing your own garphics cardLast edit: 2012-06-18 20:09:17 |
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| t0ssboy Bulgaria. June 18 2012 20:13. Posts 371 | Profile # |
hmm what about this
CPU-Intel Pentium 2x2.7
RAM-ddr 3 2x2 GB
HDD-1 TB
Video Card-AMD HD6570 1GB DDR3 ?
Is this machine better than #3 ? |
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| iTzSnypah United States. June 18 2012 20:31. Posts 1223 | Profile Blog # |
On June 18 2012 20:13 t0ssboy wrote:
hmm what about this
CPU-Intel Pentium 2x2.7
RAM-ddr 3 2x2 GB
HDD-1 TB
Video Card-AMD HD6570 1GB DDR3 ?
Is this machine better than #3 ?
Yes, its a lot better. |
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| thepivko Czech Republic. June 18 2012 21:28. Posts 1 | Profile # |
| Whats your budget for this new PC? Based on that we can suggest the best PC for your money :-) |
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| t0ssboy Bulgaria. June 18 2012 21:48. Posts 371 | Profile # |
| 550-600 BGN which is like 300-350 $ or something |
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| darkness Bulgaria. June 18 2012 22:35. Posts 2670 | Profile Blog # |
| Isn't 2+ cores basically pointless for StarCraft 2? I remember reading sc2 doesn't care if you have 3 or 4 cores. I may be wrong tho. Last edit: 2012-06-18 22:36:28 |
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| jacosajh June 18 2012 22:52. Posts 2522 | Profile Blog # |
On June 18 2012 20:13 t0ssboy wrote:
hmm what about this
CPU-Intel Pentium 2x2.7
RAM-ddr 3 2x2 GB
HDD-1 TB
Video Card-AMD HD6570 1GB DDR3 ?
Is this machine better than #3 ?
If that CPU is an Intel G630, then yes, this system is going to be your best bet out of all you've listed so far.
Yes, (Intel) dual-cores are the most optimal option for SC2. |
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 EnE June 18 2012 23:52. Posts 417 | Profile Blog # |
@Above:
It's worth noting that all that means is if ONLY have sc2 running then it won't run too much faster to have more cores.
But it'll still be faster, and especially if you wanna run anything in the background.
Really though, I'd at least try to get an i3 if you wanna get a new PC. |
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| jacosajh June 19 2012 00:32. Posts 2522 | Profile Blog # |
A Core i3 is going to run faster than a G630 for SC2, yes. But not much faster than a G840-850, which are cheaper. He obviously has a small budget, so I don't understand what you're suggestion.
Also, a Core i5 (quad-core) is not going to run much faster than a Core i3 (dual-core) for everyday tasks. So, I unless I'm not understanding your post (which I understand to be that you can benefit from having quad-core for SC2 for other tasks running in the background), that is just wrong.
I mean, if you're running iTunes and SC2, a dual-core will suffice. I don't know who would run 3DMark and play SC2 at the same time.
In any case, all of that is irrelevant if he can only afford a cheap computer because you have to do with what you got. In this case, if all he can afford a G620 + HD 6570, that is much better than all of the other crap he's posted. |
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| JingleHell United States. June 19 2012 00:36. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
On June 19 2012 00:32 jacosajh wrote:
I don't know who would run 3DMark and play SC2 at the same time.
That sounds like fun, actually. |
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| EnE June 19 2012 00:36. Posts 417 | Profile Blog # |
http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&q=i3&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1360&bih=673&wrapid=tlif134003367993410&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=10566183599644360965&sa=X&ei=kUrfT5i2L8ayhAf_5syACg&ved=0CG8Q8wIwAw
If he wants a cheap processor, I don't see why he wouldn't save up or whatever and at least get an i3.
And what I said was pretty self explanatory...multiple cores don't help much for gaming alone, but it does give you an overall faster and more capable computer.
If he wants a cheap sc2 PC, he should get say, A gtx 460 and an I3 unlocked, should be about $250 for the gpu and processor and would run sc2 fine... if he added a $80 case, a $30 aftermarket CPU, a $100 mobo and a $80 PSU, he could have an overclockable mini-beast with a PSU, case and cooler he can use in the future for like $500 at good prices, or he could keep all that shit "stock" and get the build within his original budget.
User was warned for suggesting that the OP purchase an unreleased i3Last edit: 2012-06-19 00:45:32 |
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| jacosajh June 19 2012 00:50. Posts 2522 | Profile Blog # |
His budget is $300-350. Why are you're asking him to increase his budget by 50% or more? He was looking at a Celeron G530 for goodness' sake.
No, multiple cores (outside of dual-core) don't give you a faster and more capable computer. Also, a G850 and Core i3 are going to be identical for SC2. The only thing the Pentuim's don't have that Core's do, is hyperthreading, which is useless for everyday tasking and SC2.
An $80 PSU (and case) is dumb and unnecessary for a budget computer, even one using a GTX 460 and i3.
AFAIK there is no unlocked i3 CPU. Which is related to the $30 aftermarket CPU cooler (I'm assuming you forgot the word "cooler").
Doing the math on your build, it's actually $540, and doesn't include a HDD which would be around another $70-80; doubling his budget -_-Last edit: 2012-06-19 00:53:57 |
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| Sovano United States. June 19 2012 01:04. Posts 1267 | Profile # |
On June 19 2012 00:50 jacosajh wrote:
AFAIK there is no unlocked i3 CPU. Which is related to the $30 aftermarket CPU cooler (I'm assuming you forgot the word "cooler")
There isn't any i3 processors that are unlocked. I don't think you'd even gain a noticable amount of performance even if you could OC. |
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| jacosajh June 19 2012 01:09. Posts 2522 | Profile Blog # |
Well apparently, there is going to be an i3 that can be unlocked soon. Or already is unlocked.
But yeah, I do agree. An i3 + CPU cooler + extra motherboard cost is already going to bring you well within the range of an i5.Last edit: 2012-06-19 01:11:16 |
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| EnE June 19 2012 01:55. Posts 417 | Profile Blog # |
On June 19 2012 00:50 jacosajh wrote:
His budget is $300-350. Why are you're asking him to increase his budget by 50% or more? He was looking at a Celeron G530 for goodness' sake.
No, multiple cores (outside of dual-core) don't give you a faster and more capable computer. Also, a G850 and Core i3 are going to be identical for SC2. The only thing the Pentuim's don't have that Core's do, is hyperthreading, which is useless for everyday tasking and SC2.
An $80 PSU (and case) is dumb and unnecessary for a budget computer, even one using a GTX 460 and i3.
AFAIK there is no unlocked i3 CPU. Which is related to the $30 aftermarket CPU cooler (I'm assuming you forgot the word "cooler").
Doing the math on your build, it's actually $540, and doesn't include a HDD which would be around another $70-80; doubling his budget -_-
You can OC with a locked processor |
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| JingleHell United States. June 19 2012 01:59. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
On June 19 2012 01:55 EnE wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 00:50 jacosajh wrote:
His budget is $300-350. Why are you're asking him to increase his budget by 50% or more? He was looking at a Celeron G530 for goodness' sake.
No, multiple cores (outside of dual-core) don't give you a faster and more capable computer. Also, a G850 and Core i3 are going to be identical for SC2. The only thing the Pentuim's don't have that Core's do, is hyperthreading, which is useless for everyday tasking and SC2.
An $80 PSU (and case) is dumb and unnecessary for a budget computer, even one using a GTX 460 and i3.
AFAIK there is no unlocked i3 CPU. Which is related to the $30 aftermarket CPU cooler (I'm assuming you forgot the word "cooler").
Doing the math on your build, it's actually $540, and doesn't include a HDD which would be around another $70-80; doubling his budget -_-
You can OC with a locked processor
Not significantly with SB, since the Bclock is tied into a lot of things, and you said an "unlocked i3" which doesn't exist. So unless you're suggesting he buy some obsolete pile of 1156 shit so that he can have a higher clock on a worse architecture...
Either way, it's bad advice. Especially on a really low budget. As it turns out, you save more face by admitting you made a mistake than by arguing in favor of an incorrect point.
At his budget range, overclocking with current generation parts is a luxury he can't afford, unless he's willing to sacrifice performance just to say he did it.Last edit: 2012-06-19 02:01:10 |
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| jacosajh June 19 2012 02:01. Posts 2522 | Profile Blog # |
On June 19 2012 01:55 EnE wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 00:50 jacosajh wrote:
His budget is $300-350. Why are you're asking him to increase his budget by 50% or more? He was looking at a Celeron G530 for goodness' sake.
No, multiple cores (outside of dual-core) don't give you a faster and more capable computer. Also, a G850 and Core i3 are going to be identical for SC2. The only thing the Pentuim's don't have that Core's do, is hyperthreading, which is useless for everyday tasking and SC2.
An $80 PSU (and case) is dumb and unnecessary for a budget computer, even one using a GTX 460 and i3.
AFAIK there is no unlocked i3 CPU. Which is related to the $30 aftermarket CPU cooler (I'm assuming you forgot the word "cooler").
Doing the math on your build, it's actually $540, and doesn't include a HDD which would be around another $70-80; doubling his budget -_-
You can OC with a locked processor
Then why spend $20+ more on a motherboard capable of overclocking and ~$30 on a CPU cooler to get a ~300Mhz overclock? Especially if what you say is true about quad-cores (which it isn't); with all that added costs, you're well within the price range of a Core i5.Last edit: 2012-06-19 02:05:39 |
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