Two handed weapon or One handed with source

Hello everyone, first of all i apologize for my bad english.

Im playing a wizard and facing Belial in inferno. Im too low in DPS and i have some trouble in p2 when the adds pop. I went to p3 5 times on about 25/30 trys. Im convinced it would be much easier if i had some more DPS so i dont have to kite and dodge every belial hit for so long. (current stats : 30K PV, 24K DPS, i play with blizzard+hydre, teleport AND diamond skin)

I searched on the forum before but didn't found any satisfying informations.

Im currently wearing a 1290 dps 2h blue weapon i bought about 700K.
I read on about every thread that 1h + source is always better. Why is that ?

If i buy for about the same price a 1h+source ill have more dps ? On europe for about 500k i dont think i can have more than a 850 dps weapon. With a 200k source can i beat my 2h axe ?
Can someone explain me how to compare dps from 2h and 1h+source ?

adwodon United Kingdom. June 18 2012 23:51. Posts 418

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There are damage calculators out there that can help you get exact numbers.

Here are the things I know that should be considered.

First of all 1h + oh is superior overall, however its also more expensive, often signifcantly so. I've seen many people advice going 2h until you've basically reached the limit - around 1.4k+ dps. Then consider switching to 1h+oh, as a good 1h weapon these days can set you back 10mil+ and a good offhand can set you back as well, whereas this kind of dps can be reached with a 2h that only costs 1/2 the total cost of those items.

1h has the advantage of speed, which allows better kiting, but makes spell like Arcane Orb less AP efficient.

Honestly though I'm a WD, what I know is relevent to WD to a point, I don't know if things are the same for Wizards but I can't imagine its a bad way to go. I currently have a 1.1k dps 2h which has a about 280 int + dex on it that I got for about 980k, a bargain considering the stats if you ask me. Kiting is just no go though, but DoTs and other spells are awesome, my mind set is that as I also have quite defensive stats elsewhere I should, were the game balanced, be able to allow pets to tank and not have to kite so much and be a slower, but heavy hitting damage dealer... alas the game is not currently balanced to allow even that simple idea!! Bring on 1.03!

You generally want at least 30k dps to face off against Belial though, thats a minimum really, ideally 40-50k.

Last edit: 2012-06-18 23:54:56

Nizaris Belgium. June 19 2012 00:02. Posts 2185

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unless you have loads of gold use a 2h for now, until you can really start farming ilvl 63 gear (A3) and make some actual gold to buy a good 1H/OH. You can get a good 2h (1300+ dps) for like 2-3m.

Have u tried switching your build up a bit? Blizzard is not good for bosses IMO, i prefer AO by far (and i've played quite a bit with both).

Mouse: AO(Tap the Source) / Venom Hydra
Teleport (Fracture)
Diamond Skin (Crystal Shell)
Force Weapon
Force Armor.
Passives: Temporal Flux, Glass Cannon and Astral Presence.

Don't stand in the middle go on either side so you're not surrounded with minions. They will be slow cuz of temporal flux so you should be able to stay alive fairly easily with teleport, FA and DS. AO should RAPE minions, 2 hits max. after that it's all about avoiding his green channeling shit.

edit: if you only have 500k buy a blue 2H with ~1200 dps.

Last edit: 2012-06-19 00:38:42

Patchouli Australia. June 19 2012 00:06. Posts 21

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Ultimately, a 1h + source is better because if you count the possible damage from the source, the 1h + source can get to similar (although slightly lower or having a wider range) base damage to the 2h, but they will have significantly more built in attack speed, and the offhand gives potentially up to 6 more sources for bonus statistics.

While getting the weapon isn't too difficult, getting the source is a huge pain, they drop rarely(in my experience) and the possible max damage range is really giant (29-405), so getting a good/usable one is hard, and they cost more than the 1h weapons that I've seen.

Mukyuu~

Sek-Kuar Czech Republic. June 19 2012 01:32. Posts 509

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Take weapon DPS, calculate source DPS [(max_dmg-min_dmg)/2 + min_dmg)*weapon attack/sec]

Consider that high sources have average dmg about 200-250, then for example with 220 avg_dmg skull and Axe with 1200 dps and 1,3 attack/sec it is equal to (1200 + 220*1,3)= 1486 DPS 2h weapon with 1,3 attack per sec, but you in addtion get 2sets of affixes like Int+Vita etc.

Or if you pick 1150 DPS sword with Ias so total of 1,7 attack/sec and 250 avg_dmg skull, you get to equivalent of 1575 DPS 2h weapon, again with 2 sets of extra affixes.

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Superneenja United States. June 19 2012 01:35. Posts 154

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I agree with what people are saying here about dmg vs money, but IMO 1h+source is the way to go especially if you just started farming act3. The attack speed plays a vital role for kiting and doing damage, I used a 886 blue for the longest, but recently found a 990 120int/80vit and some other stats spear.

If you dont have the money, get whatever gives you the most dmg, but if you can find a decent 1h+source I would do it!

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