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 ThumZz   Netherlands. June 20 2012 23:45. Posts 70
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Hey TeamLiquid im thinking about streaming some intresting stuff for others,but my pc can't handle it ;(. So I wonder is it possible to stream with another pc your main pc? I still have some older pc's haning around in the basement. And if yes do you have a source or anything to do it?

Thanks inadvance.

(p.s. streaming is: games and such. I also know its not my internet because it doesn't lag when im just browsing or stuff , it only does ingame and also single player)
www.teamerrox.com :D
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 Avean   Norway. June 20 2012 23:53. Posts 400
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Yeah its easy but it costs alot of money. You need a capture card on the streaming machine with preferrebly HDMI IN so you can easily get video and sound through one cable. Then connect it to the gaming PC.

Hauppauge! Colossus for example can do this and many others. This way all the encoding power gets done on the recording pc and frees up every resources available for the gaming computer. When doing that you can easily stream with 60fps, basicly going hardcore tournament quality on your stream.
Im planning on the same thing myself when i get enough money
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 PreFLecT   Canada. June 21 2012 03:59. Posts 37
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ive done it buy a black magic intensity pro put in good pc and then you can stream your other pc no problem at black magic is the way to go and there less then 200. its really easy to just put in pci slot put hdmi cord from pc you want to stream into your good pc then put hdmi in out slot into monitor and youll be good

http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/

http://www.amazon.com/Blackmagic-Design-Intensity-Pro-Editing/dp/B001CN9GEA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1340218848&sr=8-1&keywords=black+magic+intensity
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 ThumZz   Netherlands. June 21 2012 21:00. Posts 70
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thanks for all the help will consider it though not at the budget for that yet!
www.teamerrox.com :D
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 jacosajh   June 21 2012 22:11. Posts 2522
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It actually makes me wonder how great this idea is. I can imagine there would be some image quality loss from the transfer.

It makes me wonder, for everyone but the most avid streamers (ones who actually make money off this), if it's worth spending 2-3x more money for this kind of setup when it may offer only marginal benefits.

Not to mention that if you don't have a partnership with the stream websites, your users won't be able to select which resolution they want; and not all would be able to watch streams at 1080p even if they wanted too.
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 Rannasha   Netherlands. June 21 2012 23:15. Posts 2308
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On June 21 2012 22:11 jacosajh wrote:
It actually makes me wonder how great this idea is. I can imagine there would be some image quality loss from the transfer.



There's no quality loss since it's a digital connection.

The general idea is that you want to offload the resource-heavy task of encoding/compressing the videostream to a second computer, to minimize the effect of streaming has on your game machine. So you transfer the videostream uncompressed (= lots of data, very low CPU usage) to the other machine with the capture card which compresses it (= less data, high CPU usage) and sends it on its merry way.

There aren't many situations where this is a viable setup for the regular user. You need 2 reasonably well-configured machines: One to run SC2 and one to encode the stream. The encoding machine still needs to be rather beefy and as was posted before, if you're not a Twitch partner, your stream won't have a resolution-selection options, which means that if you stream at 1080p, alot of people won't be able to watch.
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 jacosajh   June 21 2012 23:40. Posts 2522
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Even capturing directly from something like an Xbox to the DVR program results in some quality loss. At least for me. I'm not sure how compatible all equipment is with stuff like xsplit, etc. but if you're using a screen capture instead of direct application capture, I would think there would be some degradation. Although the image quality will not degrade as much if you're not downsizing to another resolution.

I don't know. I've been itching to try this sometime. Maybe I will.
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 Avean   Norway. June 21 2012 23:51. Posts 400
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Well its the same as outputting from PC to TV also. Im using a HDMI for that and it sends perfect 1080P signal with crystal clear image. The same would be for streaming from 1 PC to another.

And the difference is huge since you can use ultra quality settings in SC2 now, dont have to stream with medium or low due to lack of processing power. And can do 1080P with 60fps if u want. I think DJWheat is using this kind of setup and it shows. Supersmooth stream.
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 jacosajh   June 22 2012 00:09. Posts 2522
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What equipment can do 1080p at 60fps for a reasonable price?

I got an AverMedia HDMI recorder and it only does 720p at 30fps. I would imagine it'd be very expensive.
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