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| Noruxas Netherlands. June 21 2012 22:22. Posts 126 | Profile # |
So to start this is of, I got this idea from a game called Gunz the Duel. Its basically an fps but a little more crazy (koreans invented some crazy shit on that, they call it K-style, no jk xD). Anyhow, the point is after a while a new gamemode got added; Duel tournement. Its basically a 1v1 tournament.
Brackets are like this: ![[image loading]](http://www11.onrpg.com/gamepics/articles/gunz_online_US/gunz_7_result.jpg)
Wouldn't it be cool to have this ingame? Aside from ladder? You could actually be ranked according to the total amount of points earned in these tournamants, seperatly from ladder ranking.
I really want to see this ingame, because only a while ago I played in the Homestory Cup qualifier, got past round 1, got owned by a master in 2nd game. But the point is that it just felt great playing in it, just taking a break from the ladder and actually use everything you've learned.
And I assume other people would love it as well, seeing as how there were over 500 players in the HSC qualifier (EU). And of course, progamers could practise on this as well.
First round could be BO1, second BO3, Final BO5.
So guys, give me some feedback, what do you think? Wouldn't it be awesome to be actually playing in a tournament yourself? ;3
EDIT: Also, maybe a small feature would be to create your own tournament, where you can invite people into the bracket, outside of ranked of course. You know, if you have friends. xDLast edit: 2012-06-22 00:35:44 |
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| ensign_lee United States. June 21 2012 22:29. Posts 1017 | Profile # |
| Yes, Little 8 man tournaments or 16 man or 32 man tournametns would be an amazing feature on battle.net . It would motivate people ot play SO much more than blindly pressing "find match" on ladder. |
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| Stratos_speAr United States. June 21 2012 22:31. Posts 3725 | Profile # |
On June 21 2012 22:29 ensign_lee wrote:
Yes, Little 8 man tournaments or 16 man or 32 man tournametns would be an amazing feature on battle.net . It would motivate people ot play SO much more than blindly pressing "find match" on ladder.
Another thing that they had in WC3 that they don't have here. |
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| Noruxas Netherlands. June 21 2012 22:31. Posts 126 | Profile # |
| The thing is that the player count of Gunz was kind of getting lower and lower over time, and when this Gamemode was added, the player count increased significantly. I'd like to see the same thing happen with SC2 ;3 |
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| AdmrlAwesome Germany. June 21 2012 22:40. Posts 37 | Profile # |
| I'd appreciate that in bnet, thought it would mean the death of playhem et alii. But since im from EU, Playhem had never enough european players to tourney with anyways. |
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| Snuggles United States. June 21 2012 22:56. Posts 1752 | Profile Blog # |
OMG I can't believe I'm seeing Gunz here again on TL =D There was a reference to the game a year or two back concerning SC2's game design and relations with developers and the community etc.
Man... that game was my childhood, 4 solid years of it I think, excluding break periods. I still go back to play it once every blue moon for that nostalgia.
The Duel Tournament was definitely an awesome addition to the game. Many old players came back just to see what it was about which explains the increased player count at the time. Having that type of competition and being spectated at the same time was a thrill everyone enjoyed. It's like peep-mode but structured with brackets and you're rewarded in the end based on where you place in the end. There's really nothing bad at all about this type of system if it were implemented into SC2. In Gunz however, there were issues that made it much less of a positive experience. The game had a shit netcode, so you had to "lead" your shots as if you were using a rocket in Quake and there was no way of knowing whether or not you hit your target except with your own judgement.
So if you were paired up with a guy on the other side of the planet you'd have one annoying 1v1 to deal with... Not only that but occasionally there would be people using hacks if the game hadn't been patched up yet which of course ruined everything. |
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| Noruxas Netherlands. June 21 2012 22:59. Posts 126 | Profile # |
| Yah, I think the duel tournement would be perfect for SC2 though, Gunz really had some isuesses, but ofc to be expected from a f2p game, made by a rather small company. |
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| Revelatus United States. June 21 2012 23:02. Posts 183 | Profile # |
| This would be awesome, but at the rate Blizzard has been implementing new bnet features, I wouldn't expect anything close to this until after the release of LotV |
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| glzElectromaster Japan. June 21 2012 23:05. Posts 1426 | Profile Blog # |
| We've been asking for automated tournaments since Bnet 0.2 came out. I'd love too see this happening. |
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| GeedrAhsc United States. June 21 2012 23:05. Posts 93 | Profile # |
On June 21 2012 22:31 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 22:29 ensign_lee wrote:
Yes, Little 8 man tournaments or 16 man or 32 man tournametns would be an amazing feature on battle.net . It would motivate people ot play SO much more than blindly pressing "find match" on ladder.
Another thing that they had in WC3 that they don't have here.
Yup. More things that Blizzard screwed the pooch on with SC2. One of my favorite features of WC3 was playing in the tournaments held every so often.
But I like that format, OP. Two thumbs up from me =D |
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| Raygun June 21 2012 23:06. Posts 299 | Profile # |
| How would this work with the large differences in game times? |
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| Porishan Vietnam. June 21 2012 23:19. Posts 1078 | Profile # |
| its like warcraft 3 battlenet tournament, hope blizzard will bring that back in sc2 =( |
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| AnonymousEmu Canada. June 21 2012 23:32. Posts 70 | Profile # |
Would love to see this come into sc2  |
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| Noruxas Netherlands. June 21 2012 23:32. Posts 126 | Profile # |
On June 21 2012 23:06 Raygun wrote:
How would this work with the large differences in game times?
Well in Gunz only 1 game would be played at a time, of course there the average play time per match is max. 3 minutes. But you know, there are more people that enjoy watching SC2 than playing it, so I could see it working out. And you'd have time to prepare for against some players. If you see someone at the other side of the bracket cheesing every game, you know what to be prepared for. :D
But of course all first games and semifinals could be played at same time, and if you finish playing your game, you leave (if you lose) or spectate another match in the same tournament.Last edit: 2012-06-21 23:38:20 |
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| Ireniicus United Kingdom. June 21 2012 23:38. Posts 374 | Profile # |
| this is the single most important improvement outside of launching HoTS that SC2 could have |
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| Raygun June 21 2012 23:43. Posts 299 | Profile # |
On June 21 2012 23:32 Noruxas wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 23:06 Raygun wrote:
How would this work with the large differences in game times?
Well in Gunz only 1 game would be played at a time, of course there the average play time per match is max. 3 minutes. But you know, there are more people that enjoy watching SC2 than playing it, so I could see it working out. And you'd have time to prepare for against some players. If you see someone at the other side of the bracket cheesing every game, you know what to be prepared for. :D But of course all first games and semifinals could be played at same time, and if you finish playing your game, you leave (if you lose) or spectate another match in the same tournament.
Bnet doesn't let you jump into games already in progress to spectate though. Also, winning short games doesn't necessarily mean you're cheesing, but possibly just defending it and countering.
I think tournaments like this make sense in FPS arenas and fighting games due to how short and predictable the matches are, but I can't see it really working in this game. It's a nice dream, one which I share, but I'm not sure how feasible something like this would be for SC2.Last edit: 2012-06-21 23:44:25 |
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| Fueled United States. June 21 2012 23:44. Posts 1609 | Profile # |
We're already getting:
Multiplayer resume from replay
Global Play
Multi language support
Clan/group system
Unranked matchmaking
Multiplayer replay viewing
in HoTS and that's after constantly getting on Blizzard that we wanted this. Maybe if we bug Blizzard enough they'll add this? 
I mean...they had this in Warcraft 3, so they already know how to implement it in Starcraft 2 and know how to make it work. So it really just comes down to does the community want it bad enough for them to put it in?Last edit: 2012-06-21 23:47:20 |
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| Fueled United States. June 21 2012 23:45. Posts 1609 | Profile # |
On June 21 2012 23:43 Raygun wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 23:32 Noruxas wrote:
On June 21 2012 23:06 Raygun wrote:
How would this work with the large differences in game times?
Well in Gunz only 1 game would be played at a time, of course there the average play time per match is max. 3 minutes. But you know, there are more people that enjoy watching SC2 than playing it, so I could see it working out. And you'd have time to prepare for against some players. If you see someone at the other side of the bracket cheesing every game, you know what to be prepared for. :D But of course all first games and semifinals could be played at same time, and if you finish playing your game, you leave (if you lose) or spectate another match in the same tournament.
Bnet doesn't let you jump into games already in progress to spectate though. Also, winning short games doesn't necessarily mean you're cheesing, but possibly just defending it and countering. I think tournaments like this make sense in FPS arenas and fighting games due to how short and predictable the matches are, but I can't see it really working in this game. It's a nice dream, one which I share, but I'm not sure how feasible something like this would be for SC2.
Worked for Warcraft 3 |
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| DarkPlasmaBall United States. June 21 2012 23:49. Posts 19998 | Profile Blog # |
On June 21 2012 22:40 AdmrlAwesome wrote:
I'd appreciate that in bnet, thought it would mean the death of playhem et alii. But since im from EU, Playhem had never enough european players to tourney with anyways.
Aren't those tournaments for money?
I assume these ladder tournaments wouldn't be. Although regardless, I think it'd be a pretty cool idea! It would certainly be a nice intermediary step for people who are kind of interested in tournaments but too intimidated/ busy to commit to a bigger one. It would get their feet wet and present a novel experience instead of just ladder grinding all day.
Noruxas, you should post this on the Blizzard forums with as much elaboration as possible... make sure you explain its potential Last edit: 2012-06-21 23:50:02 |
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| Raygun June 21 2012 23:49. Posts 299 | Profile # |
On June 21 2012 23:45 Fueled wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 21 2012 23:43 Raygun wrote:
On June 21 2012 23:32 Noruxas wrote:
On June 21 2012 23:06 Raygun wrote:
How would this work with the large differences in game times?
Well in Gunz only 1 game would be played at a time, of course there the average play time per match is max. 3 minutes. But you know, there are more people that enjoy watching SC2 than playing it, so I could see it working out. And you'd have time to prepare for against some players. If you see someone at the other side of the bracket cheesing every game, you know what to be prepared for. :D But of course all first games and semifinals could be played at same time, and if you finish playing your game, you leave (if you lose) or spectate another match in the same tournament.
Bnet doesn't let you jump into games already in progress to spectate though. Also, winning short games doesn't necessarily mean you're cheesing, but possibly just defending it and countering. I think tournaments like this make sense in FPS arenas and fighting games due to how short and predictable the matches are, but I can't see it really working in this game. It's a nice dream, one which I share, but I'm not sure how feasible something like this would be for SC2.
Worked for Warcraft 3
Please explain, I never played that game. Would people really sit around for 30+ minutes waiting for a game? |
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