| Zoaam June 22 2012 01:21. Posts 10 | Profile # | |
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| skyR Canada. June 22 2012 01:23. Posts 11171 | Profile # |
| No it's not. Buy parts separately and get NCIX or any other Canadian retailer to assemble it for ~$50. |
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| Blueheart Sweden. June 22 2012 01:25. Posts 28 | Profile # |
| I approve of what skyR said, it is better to buy a computer from NCIX and let them assemble it, better preformance, cheaper, no rip-off |
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| MisterFred United States. June 22 2012 01:27. Posts 1816 | Profile # |
It is a terrible gaming computer for the price. Though, to be fair, it would run both games. SC2 would run on maximum graphics, Diablo 3 probably on high but not maximum graphics.
Why is it bad for the price? First, it's a premade, so you're already losing a sizeable chunk of change by not building yourself. Second, it overspends on processor (i7 is not better for gaming than i5) and dramatically underspends on GPU (for gaming purposes). Yes, SC2 and Diablo 3 should look ok, but only because they're among the most graphically undemanding games out there. Other games will look fairly bad compared to what you should buy for about that price.
Especially in the states and especially for gaming, it's practically a necessity to build your own computer (do not worry, it's pretty easy) unless you want to pay a $200-500 premium to one of the "custom-build" companies. I suggest going to the Computer Build Resource Thread, filling out the questionnaire in the OP, and getting ready for a fun project. Edit: Oh, from Canada. Then do just like I said above to get a parts list, but tack on to wherever you order (probably ncix.com) the building fee. Much better solution than we have in the U.S.Last edit: 2012-06-22 01:28:29 |
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| jacosajh June 22 2012 02:14. Posts 2522 | Profile Blog # |
On June 22 2012 01:23 skyR wrote: No it's not. Buy parts separately and get NCIX or any other Canadian retailer to assemble it for ~$50.
Quoting this for emphasis.
Also, that won't run everything on max graphics at 1080p for SC2/D3. The graphics card isn't good enough. At a lower resolution, it might though. |
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| Zoaam June 22 2012 02:22. Posts 10 | Profile # |
Ok, any of you have like a good one for a good price that i could buy...? thanks! |
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| jacosajh June 22 2012 02:50. Posts 2522 | Profile Blog # |
If you can afford that $800 computer, you can have a new one built that will perform much better for less from most online retailers like skyR said.
We can tell what parts to order (so you can have them build it). |
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| Zoaam June 22 2012 02:53. Posts 10 | Profile # |
| Yes, money isnt a problem, I just need the good parts. If you can do that, would be nice and i'll order them. |
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| LJ June 22 2012 03:25. Posts 203 | Profile # |
| The CPU is top end but the graphics card is a really cheap one, it is kind of mismatched |
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| TheFlock United States. June 22 2012 04:21. Posts 255 | Profile # |
I used the guides to build my own desktop like was mentioned, and could not be happier with my awesome gaming rig. Suggestions pretty spot on so far.
I just wanted to add a couple more small things to also think about (given the parts list above):
1) The desktop you chose comes with WiFi, so if you want that, you need to remember to add a WiFi PCI card or USB dongle. Perhaps around $30 but a bit of variety here to suit your needs. 2) Usually desktops like the pre-built one linked in OP come with HUGE HDDs. You should think about how much space you really need when buying a HDD. I got a relatively small one to start and if I fill it up in a couple years I can just add another... Depending on the size it will influence the price fairly significantly as well. 3) The cost of an OS should not be forgotten as well so that'll tack on another ~$100 4) The Gateway comes with a card reader so if you really wanted that feature, you'll have to add an external one or similar. These are super cheap and negligible compared to the overall cost.
I know this is the small *insignificant stuff* but when I was comparing Pre-built to my computer build list, it's easy to get lost in the big cool components and forget about the little things that Pre-builts have added in that the OP might still be interested in.
All these things considered, I'll say that building your own PC like this is (arbitrarily) ~2.5x better than the one OP linked for the same money  |
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| jacosajh June 22 2012 04:53. Posts 2522 | Profile Blog # |
Oh yeah. I forgot about the OS.
But you can downsize to an i5 3550 and maybe an HD 6850 to fit an OS within the ~$900 budget. It'll still be a lot better for your money. |
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| minitelemaster United States. June 22 2012 04:57. Posts 84 | Profile # |
| If you get the 3570k cpu, make sure you also get an aftermarket cooler, like the hyper 212+ (this will allow you to overclock, which is the whole point of purchasing a k-suffix processor). Also, if money is not a problem, consider adding an SSD. |
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| Zoaam June 22 2012 06:17. Posts 10 | Profile # | |
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| Zoaam June 22 2012 06:22. Posts 10 | Profile # |
Is this all the parts that i will need or more? |
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| jacosajh June 22 2012 07:15. Posts 2522 | Profile Blog # |
Do you need an Operating System?
If so, you will need to buy one. Here it is for another $106. http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45269&vpn=GFC-00564&manufacture=Microsoft
As I was saying in my other post, you can downgrade the Motherboard / CPU / GPU a slight bit to fit it into the budget of ~$900.
What I linked in my previous post is a build that is overclockable and a very beastly graphics card (GPU). If you are not interested in overclocking and don't need a high-end graphics card (SC2 and D3 don't classify as requiring high-end graphics card), I can link cheaper ones. But, if you are wanting to play something like Crysis 2, Metro 2033, Dirt 3, or Battlefield 3 at 1080p on the absolute maximum settings, you will want the best GPU you can get. Otherwise, you can get away with a weaker graphics card and just scale back on graphic settings for these games.
Also, this doesn't include a keyboard, mouse, and monitor; if you need this we will need to start all over. |
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| Zoaam June 22 2012 08:03. Posts 10 | Profile # |
| No, ill be alright with the monitor`mouse,keyboard, and I dont really want to overclock, so does that mean that I can skip the 106$ thing that you where talking about? |
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| Blackhawk13 United States. June 22 2012 08:10. Posts 429 | Profile # |
| You should be able to get windows 7 for $30 (+another $10 for physical copy I believe, if you need that) if you have a .edu email address. Unless that deal is US only or if they stopped doing it. |
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| Zoaam June 22 2012 08:12. Posts 10 | Profile # |
Do you think they can install it for me? And sorry for bieng a total noob, but do i need a audio card or something?
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| Medrea June 22 2012 08:13. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
| The motherboard has onboard audio. Should be good. NCIX assembles for a fee, bout 50 bucks. |
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