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| HeeroFX United States. June 22 2012 22:54. Posts 1914 | Profile Blog # |
| Hey guys just got invited to play this game, any tips you want to share to a noob to moba games? Like things you wish you knew when you started? |
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| Astraar Germany. June 22 2012 22:58. Posts 6 | Profile # |
Play vs Bots and learn all Items and Heros :D
There are also guides etc. on Youtube |
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| DoNotDisturb Singapore. June 22 2012 22:59. Posts 5256 | Profile Blog # |
| I'm guessing you have little to no experience in DotA, HoN, LoL etc then? |
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| Canas Sweden. June 22 2012 23:20. Posts 1459 | Profile Blog # |
| Pick an easy hero (my suggestion would be lich for any new player) and play vs bots until you feel comfortable enough with the game to play matchmaking, and then just keep playing matchmaking |
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| Unleashing Denmark. June 22 2012 23:34. Posts 2397 | Profile # |
First of all: DotA is no MOBA.
Pick an easy to play hero and play versus bots while you get the basics down.
Read what a hero does and try what you want to start with, you'll quickly realize what's good and what's bad.
Also, watching competitive games or just watching the top games that you can watch ingame can give you a good idea of what a hero is meant to do/be skilled like/whatever.
But yea, playing is the best way to learn.
And your first goal will have to be learning the basics like:
Laning.
Last hitting.
Runes.
How the shop works.
How items work.
How all the heroes work and what they can and cannot do.
DotA has a crazy learning curve, so it might seem overwhelming at first.
But it doesn't take long to learn how a hero works, learning all the small tricks and such might take a lot longer though.
And well, this guide is always relevant: Welcome to DotA, you suck.
And i guess this is good as well: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=345139Last edit: 2012-06-22 23:44:22 |
| | "Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - KuroKy | |
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| kochujang Germany. June 22 2012 23:47. Posts 1150 | Profile # |
On June 22 2012 23:34 Unleashing wrote:
First of all: DotA is no MOBA.
Sure it is. |
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| Unleashing Denmark. June 22 2012 23:51. Posts 2397 | Profile # |
On June 22 2012 23:47 kochujang wrote:Sure it is.
MOBA is an extremely silly term.
Starcraft 2, Team fortress 2, Counter strike and so on are all MOBAs.
So, are we gonna start calling SC2 a MOBA as well?
To use a quote:
MOBA -- Multiplayer Online Battle Arena
What competitive game isn't multiplayer, online, and takes on some sort of battle? The first three words apply to nearly every single online game that pits players against each other (obviously). The fourth word, arena, doesn't even describe the DotA-genre. Using that word implies an all-hostile area that dismisses DotA's territorial control and lane-pushing among its many facets of gameplay. Even RTSRPG or ActionRTS would be better (yet still lacking) acronyms. If anything, use DotA as a genre of its own, or use its original form, AoS (Aeon of Strife from Starcraft). Please help stop the widespread use of the vague term MOBA!
On top of that, VALVE themselves have said that DotA is an ARTS and that they don't even really know what a MOBA is.Last edit: 2012-06-22 23:53:27 |
| | "Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - KuroKy | |
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| Shunjal United States. June 23 2012 00:38. Posts 451 | Profile # |
Check out guides for heroes, dotafire.com is a decent resource. or dotacinema on youtube have video tutorials.
Play against bots to start, at least 15 - 20 games, or even start a custom lobby to go into the game alone and just read over the shop items.
Good starting heroes - Lich, Skeleton King, Shadow Shaman, Witch Doctor, Axe, Sniper, Sven.
Heroes to avoid - Invoker, Morphling, Spectre, Alchemist, Ancient Apparition, Razor. |
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| Unleashing Denmark. June 23 2012 00:41. Posts 2397 | Profile # |
| DotA cinema is okay but DotAfire.com is horrible honestly, so many of those guides are god awful and wrong. |
| | "Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - KuroKy | |
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| Shunjal United States. June 23 2012 00:47. Posts 451 | Profile # |
On June 23 2012 00:41 Unleashing wrote:
DotA cinema is okay but DotAfire.com is horrible honestly, so many of those guides are god awful and wrong.
For a new player they are fine, just use the higher voted guides. How bout giving him a link to your "non-god awful and wrong" guides, to keep it constructive. |
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| Quotidian Norway. June 23 2012 00:48. Posts 1626 | Profile # |
On June 23 2012 00:38 Shunjal wrote:Check out guides for heroes, dotafire.com is a decent resource. or dotacinema on youtube have video tutorials. Play against bots to start, at least 15 - 20 games, or even start a custom lobby to go into the game alone and just read over the shop items. Good starting heroes - Lich, Skeleton King, Shadow Shaman, Witch Doctor, Axe, Sniper, Sven. Heroes to avoid - Invoker, Morphling, Spectre, Alchemist, Ancient Apparition, Razor.
the positional element of Witch Doctor makes him a less good choice for the ultimate beginner imo. His ulti is pretty bad if you don't know how to position yourself, and the cask can be wasted quite easily as well. And Maledict requires some co-ordination with team mates. I think Warlock is a much easier hero to get started with if you want something that kind of fills the support role |
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| Tahona United States. June 23 2012 01:09. Posts 118 | Profile # |
| high rated guides on playdota have been more than helpful |
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| Unleashing Denmark. June 23 2012 01:13. Posts 2397 | Profile # |
On June 23 2012 00:47 Shunjal wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 23 2012 00:41 Unleashing wrote:
DotA cinema is okay but DotAfire.com is horrible honestly, so many of those guides are god awful and wrong.
For a new player they are fine, just use the higher voted guides. How bout giving him a link to your "non-god awful and wrong" guides, to keep it constructive.
I don't believe in guides, i think they're a horrible thing to begin.
And one of the highest voted guides claims that vladimir isthe to go to core item on bounty hunter.
I also wouldn't know if there is a site with good guides out there since i don't look for guides since i personally have no need for a guide.
The best 'guides' are watching competitive games and seeing how professionals do with hero X in linup Y against lineup Z.Last edit: 2012-06-23 01:16:46 |
| | "Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - KuroKy | |
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| DeltaX United States. June 23 2012 01:15. Posts 150 | Profile # |
| When you start playing with other players, ALWAYS have a scroll of town portal past the early game. Remember you can double click it or hit the keybind for it twice to quickly tp to your base. It is easily one of the best items in the game. |
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 Kipsate Netherlands. June 23 2012 01:22. Posts 18008 | Profile Blog # | |
| | Park Ji Yeon/Ye Eun/Kang Min Kyung, T-ara/Wonder Girls/Davichi | |
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| shostakovich Brazil. June 23 2012 01:40. Posts 716 | Profile Blog # |
| This is one very good advice: exercise your sense of humor. You will be playing with other nine people, and sometimes people will believe that other people are ruining their experience. Just like soccer, sometimes people will scream at you if you commit a mistake. If you don't have a good sense of humo and take things too seriously, you'll not enjoy the game. So, approach it as a game: play to have fun and to win; if you do something wrong, try to learn what you did wrong and improve; if someone becomes a dick at you because of your inexperience, just mute him (there's an small icon next to his name on the score tab where you can do it). |
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| theSAiNT United Kingdom. June 23 2012 01:49. Posts 679 | Profile # |
I would not play on a real server until you've had a go with bots and are comfortable with basic mechanics like how to use items, the spells, hotkeys etc.
The 'community' is not the most forgiving of newbies.
I'd say start with a strong laning hero like lich and play against bots. |
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| Oktyabr Singapore. June 23 2012 02:10. Posts 953 | Profile # |
| Play easy heroes such as Lich and Lion, and get the feel of those health bars with the nukes. When you're in the lane, stay slightly behind the ranged unit of your wave and simply back off whenever enemy heroes make advances past your melee line, because that's nearly almost an indication of when they're trying to kill you. |
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| kethers United States. June 23 2012 02:20. Posts 453 | Profile Blog # |
On June 22 2012 22:54 HeeroFX wrote:
Hey guys just got invited to play this game, any tips you want to share to a noob to moba games? Like things you wish you knew when you started?
Be prepared to be flamed. The DotA community in general is not very noob-friendly.
That being said, picking a hero to play 10-20+ games is the first step to understand how the hero works. Heroes with escape mechanisms or single-target nukes or lane control abilities, non-initiator and non-micro intensive are better for beginners such as Veno, Skeleton King, or Sven. Like above people state, the learning curve is very daunting for learning warding, minimap awareness, last-hitting and denying, and lane control, but only come with hours of practice. As you branch out with heroes, you can also learn how to lane against other heroes and immediate threats and the strengths and weaknesses of heroes.
I've never been a big fan of lengthy guides, because I think mechanics are only learned through playing rather than reading. Watching pro matches i.e. joinDota also helps, but remember there is a huge difference between solo pub play and a professional coordinated team. DotaCinema also put out some decent hero intros and guides (both can be found on YouTube)
Most of all, have fun! I have close to 10 years of DotA experience dating back to W3:RoC DotA.Last edit: 2012-06-23 02:25:03 |
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| rwrzr United States. June 23 2012 06:11. Posts 1155 | Profile # | |
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