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| Ration Netherlands. June 24 2012 04:51. Posts 6 | Profile # |
| I've got Diablo 3 on the realse played untill the end of the storry line. But I wonder if it is worth it to play the harder settings awell, or is it just a farm fest for items? Becasue I don't like to do that kind of stuff. Is he game chaling tactical wise to be able to beat the harder lvls? So I'would to have to ue my mind to come up whit tactical tricks on the spot or just button spam all the way. |
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| Charger United States. June 24 2012 04:54. Posts 2348 | Profile Blog # |
| Inferno, especially after act 1, is incredibly challenging. You will however have to farm or utilize the AH to gear up or you won't even have a chance. |
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| Terranasaur United States. June 24 2012 04:59. Posts 962 | Profile # |
The limited resource's, cooldowns, and extreme fragility of all the characters makes it so that standing in a spot and spamming a buttons doesn't really work.
However... This probably is a question that nobody can answer for you. You're just going to have to try it out for yourself. |
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| Torte de Lini Canada. June 24 2012 05:03. Posts 27331 | Profile Blog # |
Play Hardcore
Its the only true challenge. |
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| andReslic June 24 2012 05:09. Posts 200 | Profile # |
On June 24 2012 05:03 Torte de Lini wrote:
Play Hardcore
Its the only true challenge.
I actually think playing on Inferno is a challenge too, with this repair costs, the challenge is getting the gold. |
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| Phenny Australia. June 24 2012 05:25. Posts 1400 | Profile # |
Inferno is when the game begins imo.
But tactics and skill were not inmind when developing elite/champion affixes im afraid, you'll probably just get angry like everyone else.
I'm still finding it fun (and enraging) though. |
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| zeross France. June 24 2012 05:31. Posts 275 | Profile # |
I would say no it don't worth it for you.
The game IS extremely chalenging but not in the correct way. The mobs just have ability to prevent you from moving, they have incredible damage and some hp. basicly you just kite things to no end will trying.... no praying that they will not jail or wall you.
the only way is to run countless and countless hours the same content to hope finding a good item that will increase your stats by 2% and so on.... its basicly just farming equipement to have 250 dex instead of 240 and so on.
realy not fun for a lot of people, judging by your post, i think you would agree and find it very boring. |
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| timurStas June 24 2012 12:23. Posts 44 | Profile # |
| I think its fun. I play a barb and I like the micro aspect of having to constantly jump around and time stuns well. At first I was very under geared and had to farm a bit but I think it was worth it. |
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| Ig United States. June 24 2012 13:35. Posts 407 | Profile # |
| Yes if you have $1000 for the RMAH and an anger management counselor. |
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| Exempt. United States. June 24 2012 14:09. Posts 410 | Profile # |
I don't think you'd like it. I played many thousand of hours in WoW and got sick of that kind of time use. In Diablo 3 I ended up just selling all the gear off my characters back for 70 bucks and feel happy ending my d3 existence on act3 Inferno, at least until pvp
It's a massive gear farm session and a lot of the gear you get you just try to sell to other people anyways. If you enjoy economics maybe that would be enjoyable to you? I find no inspiration to do it though.
I like playing Dota when I want to tactically challenge my mind. |
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| Chairman Ray Canada. June 24 2012 14:41. Posts 7634 | Profile Blog # |
| I don't find it fun. In higher difficulties, most enemies don't take more skill the take down, but rather more time. Act bosses were kinda fun since I was dying every time until I figured out how all their attacks work, then it becomes a rigid process of how to kill the boss. I'm eagerly waiting for pvp to come out, it looks like fun. |
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| thoradycus Malaysia. June 24 2012 15:01. Posts 3212 | Profile # |
Bosses are/were? Kinda fun As I had to figure out how the bosses work. No use watching videos if you don't do it yourself 
As a dh it also kinda tests your skills a little bit like reactions etc
On the other hand inferno is for farming items, nothing more and yes prepare to rage. |
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| OoFuzer Chile. June 24 2012 15:02. Posts 381 | Profile # |
| not fun at all. just 1-2 builds per character, AH dependant, no other thing to do beside grinding (no pvp, no REAL craft system, etc.) |
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| Lysenko United States. June 24 2012 15:05. Posts 2045 | Profile Blog # |
On June 24 2012 04:51 Ration wrote:
I've got Diablo 3 on the realse played untill the end of the storry line. But I wonder if it is worth it to play the harder settings awell, or is it just a farm fest for items? Becasue I don't like to do that kind of stuff. Is he game chaling tactical wise to be able to beat the harder lvls? So I'would to have to ue my mind to come up whit tactical tricks on the spot or just button spam all the way.
I think it's a blast, at least until you get to Inferno. The thing that a lot of people are finding un-fun is getting to a point in Inferno where they have to farm for a long time to progress onward. However, the Normal -> Nightmare -> Hell -> Act 1 Inferno progression is quick and a lot of fun. I felt great beating Hell mode after having done the other two, because it really was a step up.
Basically, things you ignore when you're running Normal will kill you straight up in Nightmare or Hell, particularly if you're not taking some care with your gear.Last edit: 2012-06-24 15:06:12 |
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| PolskaGora United States. June 24 2012 15:09. Posts 476 | Profile # |
I did a little research before buying D3 since I had no experience with the Diablo franchise earlier, and according to most people, Normal is really just a tutorial that teaches you the mechanics of your class, what to expect, and how to play the game most efficiently, and that the real fun and adventure begins in Nightmare+ difficulties. Personally, I found Normal to be quite fun, although Nightmare to be a little less so, especially in Act2 and Act3. Hell was a total bore and felt just like endless grinding, I just wanted to done with it as quickly as possible and hope that Inferno would be more fun or at least more worth it in terms of monetary gain.
I wasn't disappointed.
There has been a lot of QQing going on about the broken-ness of Inferno, but I don't really feel it, and this is coming from a melee class. It IS hard, and especially at the beginning when you have only a little resistance to damage. However, I find it to be worthy of being an end-game difficulty, and is for me personally extremely fun. In Normal - Hell I was like 'Yeah this is fun and all but I don't think it was worth the hype and $60'. I am actually lightly addicted to farming Inferno, the kind when you're bored and you turn this. Basically, if you have the time for it, being summer and all, I would recommend for you to go for it. |
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 dartoo India. June 24 2012 16:49. Posts 2252 | Profile # |
Well yes and no, normal and nightmare are just really boring cause there is nothing much in them, in hell you have to think about things a little bit. But in inferno things like resistances and armour actually matter, so you'll need to calculate stats,dps, make trade offs,farm, and play the auction house to get good deals (I enjoy getting stuff for less gold ).
But at the same time some things like monster affixes, how they spawn and where they spawn and on what enemies they spawn dont seem to have been given much thought. The difficulty just seems to have been in a quick and cheap way.If they couldve just put some though into it and refined it would've felt like a good challenge.Some things just leave a bad taste ,especially situations where you feel like you could do nothing at all because your control was taken from you.Last edit: 2012-06-24 16:52:06 |
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| fishjie United States. June 26 2012 05:16. Posts 574 | Profile # |
On June 24 2012 05:31 zeross wrote:
I would say no it don't worth it for you.
The game IS extremely chalenging but not in the correct way. The mobs just have ability to prevent you from moving, they have incredible damage and some hp. basicly you just kite things to no end will trying.... no praying that they will not jail or wall you.
exactly. its not challenging in a rewarding sense where you can use skill to overcome it. because the enemies can just root you and then insta kill you. or they have frustrating affixes such as a ranged elite that runs away from you but is also fast, extra health and teleports while spewing mortars/molten
its just not very enjoyable.
the game is "fun" for me because i group with old friends i havent hung out with in a long time. |
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| Ownos United States. June 26 2012 05:27. Posts 2144 | Profile # |
I don't think it will be challenging like WoW where you figured out complex boss fights and coordinate. A lot of the challenge is getting better gear and then trivializing things that one shotted you before. It is a bit more challenging then D2, the elites at least have unique abilities that make you react (mostly).
And I think Inferno mode is the way it is becase you do need some carrot to chase or else you just blow through all the content and have no reason to keep farming for gear.Last edit: 2012-06-26 05:29:56 |
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| Phael United States. June 26 2012 05:31. Posts 251 | Profile # |
What do you mean? Each class has at least one ability to either completely immune or escape from cc abilities.
Blizzard's philosophy is that with skill, you can avoid the vast majority of the mortar salvos and the ranged attacks, but you'll need enough defense to survive the occasional situation where you are caught with all cds unavailable. If you are able to simply dodge everything all the time, there would be no point in half the skills in the game and 90% of the gear.
Patience, cooldown management, and strategic positioning all goes into this game. For example, I'm on my wizard fighting a group of vortex/fire chains. I stand and cast, they vortex me in, I diamond armor and get out. Once I'm out, instead of casting, I will run around an object so when vortex is cast, I get blocked by terrain. I continue until diamond armor is back up, then I go and start casting again. The vast majority of deaths happen when I get greedy and continue to cast when diamond armor isn't up, then I get sucked in and hey, I died. Obviously the death was frustrating and the game's fault because I was too impatient to wait for a defensive cooldown, right?
If you want to boil it down, each encounter/difficulty has a setting, lets call it the threshold. As long as your skill * gear is greater than this threshold, you can beat this encounter. People who claim that this game is no skill all gear have a point - you can keep your skill static and beat encounters by overgearing it. On the other hand, you can certainly beat encounters with higher skill and less gear. However, seeing as getting gear is the easier method, that's the path most people go and you suddenly have a skilless? game.Last edit: 2012-06-26 05:57:26 |
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| HyunA Romania. June 26 2012 05:37. Posts 358 | Profile # |
no, it's not more fun. it takes more time and more gear to beat bosses/elite packs in higher dificulties, but not more skill.
also, d3 has no endgame. just quit like 50% of the people did already. |
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