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| Igeneous United States. June 25 2012 07:34. Posts 22 | Profile # |
I just bought a new HP pavilion m6-1054dx PC from best buy. I haven't done anything to it except watch a few videos, then downloading starcraft 2. I have it now installed, but when i play anything ingame then i have lag spikes. I have a HP HD 4000 graphics card, so i don't think i have graphics issues. But when i play campaign the sound rewinds when i lag, so the dialogue is like just repeating a single word over and over again while the screen freezes. This happens once every like 5 seconds or so and then the dialogue continues, but its so laggy that i can't really enjoy my game that much since i lag every game i play, even versus AI. What is wrong with my computer that is causing all of this? I also have a 5mbps dl speed.
here's my computer
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+15.6%26%2334%3B+Pavilion+Laptop+-+8GB+Memory+-+750GB+Hard+Drive+-+Natural+Silver/5608295.p?id=1218672046425&skuId=5608295
Final Edit: I updated my graphics driver, I'm on low settings for graphics, and I set my graphics card to maximum performance. The game screen still freezes once every 5 to 10 seconds or so, and thats at the BEGINNING of a game. Last edit: 2012-06-26 10:30:14 |
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| Boblhead United States. June 25 2012 07:38. Posts 2559 | Profile # |
| did you update the latest drivers for intel HD, sound drivers etc? |
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| synd Bulgaria. June 25 2012 07:40. Posts 314 | Profile # |
HD 4000 is.... terrible.
You must have lag issues
User was warned for BAD ADVICE
btw is the mod IDONTWANTTOSAYRETARDEDbutRETARDED to give such a warning?
Lag = fps drops too if you mean that. And HD4000= low fps = lag = stutter = whatever you want to call it
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| calvinL Canada. June 25 2012 07:41. Posts 405 | Profile # |
| Sorry but you should have done a bit more research before you purchased your laptop. Onboard cards don't run SC2 well at all unless you turn your settings all the way down. If you wanted to game, you should at least find a machine with a dedicated video card in it. |
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| grouperfish Canada. June 25 2012 07:45. Posts 21 | Profile Blog # |
| Sorry dude, but I am writing this using the same computer and laptops with onboard GPUs run Starcraft terribly. You should have done some more research and got an Asus laptop for a little more. I can play the game with around 15 FPS perfectly fine though, even though it's at 15 FPS constantly. Try updating your drivers. Unfortunately, if you want to have a good experience with Starcraft 2, you're gonna have to spend a little more on a laptop or build a cheap desktop PC for playing it. That's what I'm doing. |
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| TheToast United States. June 25 2012 08:13. Posts 4804 | Profile Blog # |
On June 25 2012 07:40 synd wrote:
HD 4000 is.... terrible.
You must have lag issues
Paired with the 3rd gen i5's Intel's HD graphics is not that bad, it actually out-performs AMD's APUs in a lot of games and applications. But it's obviously not anywhere as good as a dedicated GPU. He should be able to play SC2 with all the settings on low. |
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| Igeneous United States. June 25 2012 08:30. Posts 22 | Profile # |
| What's a good computer then? Asus also has cheaper computers than mine, but would they still work???? |
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| Orchead June 25 2012 08:43. Posts 5 | Profile # |
On June 25 2012 07:34 Igeneous wrote:
I just bought a new HP
Here is your first mistake
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| Alryk United States. June 25 2012 08:46. Posts 2406 | Profile Blog # |
It can't be a hardware issue... HD3000 can run starcraft on low (barely), HD 4000 should have no issues. It could be a driver issue, although Anandtech and others never reported one like this (there was a memory leak issue but not anymore).
@Grouperfish something is terribly wrong if you get 15FPS normally on an HD4000.
@OP, try reinstalling SC2... your issue is kind of hard to understand, but maybe files are messed up and reinstalling would work. You should not be having any framerate issues on low though... your hardware should be fine for that. |
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| kyriores Greece. June 25 2012 08:52. Posts 172 | Profile # |
How hot is the laptop when it's running Sc2? Could be the graphics card slowly melting down.
Edit: Or the whatever part of the laptop the gpu is located on.Last edit: 2012-06-25 08:53:05 |
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| Igeneous United States. June 25 2012 09:02. Posts 22 | Profile # |
| It's not hot at all, the fan just runs faster abit |
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| Rollin Australia. June 25 2012 09:23. Posts 1202 | Profile # |
| I highly doubt the integrated graphics are overheating, just saying. |
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| TheToast United States. June 25 2012 09:35. Posts 4804 | Profile Blog # |
On June 25 2012 08:43 Orchead wrote:Here is your first mistake
Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about, If you order it custom, HP actually makes some of the best laptops on the market for the price. Much cheaper than Asus for the same hardware, and their customer support isn't horrid.
The problem is the OP bought a very low end one.
On June 25 2012 08:46 Alryk wrote:
It can't be a hardware issue... HD3000 can run starcraft on low (barely), HD 4000 should have no issues. It could be a driver issue, although Anandtech and others never reported one like this (there was a memory leak issue but not anymore).
@Grouperfish something is terribly wrong if you get 15FPS normally on an HD4000.
@OP, try reinstalling SC2... your issue is kind of hard to understand, but maybe files are messed up and reinstalling would work. You should not be having any framerate issues on low though... your hardware should be fine for that.
He hasn't told us what settings he's using, if he's trying to run the game on medium settings that lag is going to be normal. Also, the campaign is going to use more system resources than mutiplayer, so it will be somewhat slower. But if he's running on everything lowest and still having major problems, then I would say there might be another issue. |
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| Igeneous United States. June 25 2012 09:53. Posts 22 | Profile # |
Yeah multiplayer and single vs ai is less laggy than actual campaign, but even slight lag would be hindering for me in multiplayer though.
Lets say i keep this laptop, could i buy a good graphics card and install it by myself? |
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| Alryk United States. June 25 2012 10:03. Posts 2406 | Profile Blog # |
No you wouldn't be able to. Laptops unfortunately don't work that way. @toast yeah, true. If he was on all ultra, that would be the issue... Igeneous, HD4000 can handle low settings, and MAYBE medium at 1366x768, (I don't remember what Anand's review showed). I think it might have even shown 34 fps on high, but im too lazy to look it up, and in any case, you would probably lag more with more units on the screen than that.
If you have all the settings on low, then try reinstalling SC2 I guess. Toast might be better at diagnosing this than me though. (By might, I mean will be) You shouldn't have lag on low settings, and if sound files are sounding weird I feel like something might have been corrupted, but then again I'm not very knowledgeable. I can't see any other potential issues.
By the way, what do you mean by lag? Are you having framerate problems, or are you having input lag? (choppiness, or units taking long to respond)? I don't think you ever specified, and lag is used too often for framerate problems. |
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| EngrishTeacher China. June 25 2012 10:09. Posts 469 | Profile Blog # |
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You guys have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm running SC2 at 1366x768 everything on medium except physics, with a laptop - an i5-2410M and Intel HD 3000 integrated.
I get ~ 35 fps early game and ~25 fps late game.
For a DESKTOP HD 4000, he's supposed to get MUCH higher FPS than that.
Just make sure Intel Speedstep isn't crippling your CPU to save power. Check to see that Turboboost is working when you run SC2, I had problems with that as well until I changed some settings. |
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| Alryk United States. June 25 2012 10:56. Posts 2406 | Profile Blog # | |
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| TheToast United States. June 25 2012 11:09. Posts 4804 | Profile Blog # |
I think the core clock of the HD4000 can vary, but I according to wikipedia for the i5 ivy bridges it's exactly the same for mobile and desktop. Obviously, since the desktop CPU is going to be faster than the mobile version, the desktop will still out-perform the laptop. But that gives me an idea.....
OP, you did double check the power settings to make sure the graphics card wasn't set to power saving mode. Right? Because that would be the issue right there. |
| | I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid. | |
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| Igeneous United States. June 25 2012 12:03. Posts 22 | Profile # |
| It's working better now toast, thanks. Still occasional lag though with medium quality and low texture Last edit: 2012-06-25 12:09:47 |
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| Alryk United States. June 25 2012 12:58. Posts 2406 | Profile Blog # |
Heh, simplest solutions are the hardest to find sometimes :O
Yeah, personally I would play everything on low, but I prefer fluidity over everything else. |
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