Me niether, considering the game hangs on everyone being alive. I would still prefer him to stay in the game without being replaced. I can only imagine how difficult it could get with another replacement.
I'd also appreciate it if town players would be vigilant around the deadline to make sure this no-lynch goes through. AU + Promethelax, if either of you are in the thread, I'd like one of you to get your vote off of Hopeless1der. If neither of you are scum, and Hopeless isn't scum, then all 3 scum could switch onto the Hopeless vote for a mislynch. Get your vote on either Myles or Promethelax.
AmericanUmlaut Germany. July 07 2012 05:59. Posts 2275
Miltonkram: No worries, I haven't forgotten, and I'll hop off to make sure that no mislynch takes place. I'm going to do it as close to 5:59:59 TL time as possible, though. The ideal situation is that just before I post this, all three scum jump onto Hopeless1der to force the mislynch and end the game; if that has actually happened, I happily apologize to Hopeless1der for my misread of him, and we have won the game.
I really don't think that's going to happen, though. I think that, as I type this, there is no plot brewing amongst the PBUs of this thread to jump on Hopeless1der en masse and take their victory, because I think that Hopeless1der is, in fact, scum. I know for a fact that I am a townie. I have as strong a townie read on Promethelax as I think you can get in a Mafia game without verification from a blue. That means there are currently two town votes on Hopeless, and if he were also town, hammering him would be the obvious play. Even more so because Promethelax has told us that he's got RL committments at voting time, so he's locked in. I've been inactive for five hours; there is no reason for the PBUs to think that I'm here ready to switch my vote.
I've sat here f5ing the thread in my other tab, and there's still no mafia posts at 22:59. I'm posting my switch now, just in case they are posting simultaneously.
##Unvote Hopeless1der ##Vote Myles
The frumious Bandersnatch
ghost_403 United States. July 07 2012 06:00. Posts 1759
Good move AU. Also, I think it's time we start discussing at night. It's very probable that a well-meaning townie is going to die tonight and any information/scumhunting that they can contribute would probably help us rather than hurt us.
Right now I'm looking at a scum team among the following: Keirathi/Blind-Rawr, iamperfection, BobTheLob, and Hopeless1der.
I'll be rereading filters to see if I can come up with anything more solid on these players.
ghost_403 United States. July 07 2012 06:57. Posts 1759
After a long day of debate, the trusted members of the ABL thread had come up emty. No leads, no ideas. With every day the conspiracy was drawing ever closer to their victory while the ABL posters squabbled away.
But all was not lost. ghost_403 had one last plan, one final confrontation that would either lead to his victory, or to the ruin of all....
No one was lynched.
Myles has been pardoned for failing to vote. Please hold all discussions on pardons/modkills until the end of the game.
It is now Night 3. If you have night actions, please PM them to me, TheToast, and GMarshal in a PM with the title 'NMMXIX Night 3 Action'. Night 3 ends in 24 hours, at 1700est[local]
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Myles United States. July 07 2012 07:47. Posts 4342
Ok, thanks ghost for the pardon. And again, sorry for my absence.
AU, you make some strong points imo. If you and Prom are town, which I'm inclined to believe right now, there's no reason for the scum not to at least test the waters. That there was almost no support besides you two seems far more meaningful than any of reads we've made so far. Unless something else significant comes along, I think that will influence my vote the most since words are up for interpretation, but actions speak louder.
I also think Bob's vote on himself is telling. He's played the dumb newb card pretty well, but how would you not realize putting two votes on yourself is not the way to cause a no-lynch? I think that was a scum slip.
Bob and Hopeless have my FoS.
Hopeless1der Canada. July 07 2012 12:49. Posts 2237
AU, you just created a WIFOM situation that could suggest that you actually are scum and just bought yourself some town cred. I'm hoping there's a DT that's checked me already as it seems like the only way we're going to win. Prom and Umlaut have both been quite vocal about their desire to lynch me. I really hope this hasn't already happened and I'm the miller.
Prom has not yet had a chance to respond to my claim, and I'm interested to see his take on it.
Regardless, if we have an information role (DT/Tracker/Watcher), I'd like you to post anything you have as close to the deadline as possible in case you are NK'd. Medics cant really do anything other than go for the miracle save. I could care less if I was shot, as it would prove I was town and lend some more credence to my read on Umlaut (Yay more Wine). Tomorrow, I think we should mass claim because its a Lynch (correctly) or lose situation. There may be an exception for a Vigilante to save his shot for the next night, but other than that I can't think of a good reason not to claim.
As a heads up, I'm gone camping for the next day or so. I don't expect internet access until Sunday morning. I'll be around for another hour tonight.
Promethelax Canada. July 07 2012 14:13. Posts 5362
Umlat: I love that play. That was actually great, you would do well to remember that it only proves that Hopeless is scum if neither of us are. Now I know I am not scum and I'm pretty sure you aren't either but if you are scum two more votes wouldn't have hammered Hopeless. Since my read on you us pretty good as a a townie I'm guessing that you are right about Hopeless.
Pre-Post Edit. I shall not talk about pardons or mod kills.
Hopeless: as to your claim...I don't know what to say. You bread crumb'd VT? That is the safest claim by scum, I don't know what to say. Because there are no actions to back it up it seems like a role that you don't need to claim although I can see how a newb scum or townie would do that. I still think you are scum but this claim is totally null. Why are you interested in my take in particular? I'm actually really curious dude. (not sarcasm)
As to your proposal about a mass claim it can't hurt us. After the NK (I'm still assuming no medic saves) we have to lynch perfectly three times so we may as well have everything on the table. A no-lynch won't be an option tomorrow, we need every scrap of information we have.
Has it occurred to you that we might not have any information roles though? There has been a lot of talk about Newbie's relying too heavily on Blues, maybe Ghost decided to leave them out of the game and make us scumhunt for ourselves? I know this is more of a balance concern but it is something to think about.
I'll be awake for a while, I was out partying and am going to watch the GSTL. I'll be around though and, as usual I'll be here in the morning before work.
I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.