Newbie Mini Mafia XIX
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On June 29 2012 08:28 Promethelax wrote: I think Myles is right here, we need to think this through. I'm certainly not opposed to a lurker lynch but if we are going to start targeting a single player it should be for a good reason. Intact, if you think Myles is scummy you should keep a close eye on him and see how he acts see what he does and build a case. We as townies need to work together though we have the deductive power of nine smart (I hope) people on our side, we should try to use that power. Im not claiming he is scum, I'm simply pointing out the observations I've made- And I felt like the ball had to get rolling. | ||
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Now this isn't going anywhere.. | ||
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On June 29 2012 18:51 Fencer710 wrote: Ah I've found something!This may suggest that both Anacletus and Jinglehell may both be mafia. Jinglehell points his finger at Monk after pointing it at Anacletus, then Anacletus points it at Jinglehell. For some reason I can't say exactly why it makes me tick, but it does. I think I saw this type of play in a previous mafia game. Not sure which one though. There were 2 mafia who argued agressivly towards eachother early on. This reminds me of that occasion. | ||
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On June 29 2012 20:30 BLinD-RawR wrote: yes I do see that their argument seems lacking but that is also because analectus seems be quite uncooperative with Jingle therefore the argument itself seems to be quite pointless. Intact, any reads so far? My first guess was Myles, however he is no longer on top of the list(although I will keep an eye on him). I'm leaning mostly towards Analectus, his posts contain very little of value and seems more like a way to avoid being branded a lurker. And like I said before I have seen scum play that is similar to what JH and Analectus is doing. | ||
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Now, on to some more specific explanations: On June 29 2012 23:28 Intact wrote: ##Vote Analectus No discussion, no thoughts, just hopping on board. After promethelax comes in to push his case on Fencer (which no one but me really took to), Intact sees this as a very suspicious move. Promethelax is attempting to flesh out multiple cases on day 1 instead of tunnelling one person, and Intact deems that scum behaviour because it might split the town and cause tension. On the other hand, Anacletus flipped town, so Promethelax had the right idea going after someone else. Explanation: + Show Spoiler + The no discussion claim is simply false, Even though I did not write anything in the vote post I was the first to bring up analectus and tyring to make a logical case against him. I did not just jump on the bandwagon, I posted my thoughts more than once before voting. The reasons I suspected promethelax was that I truly believed in my read of analectus and to me promethelax post seemed like a desperation move to save him. This obviously turned out not to be true. On June 30 2012 10:48 Intact wrote: In addition, should we lynch analectus and he turns put to be mafia, it would make it fairly easy to point out the other mafia. And if he turns out to be townie it would be very easy to confirm some townies. This is not true in the slightest and just screams scum to me. JH quickly picks up on it: That last line in the spoiler is the biggest point here. Intact is assuming that a lynch would reveal perfect information about who voted. That cant work since town must be involved in the mislynch, so how could you know with certainty who is scum and who is town? Unless you're scum, you cant possibly know after a D1 Lynch. Explanation: + Show Spoiler + Here, my only defence is poor play, which admittedly is not a very strong case. I'd like to remind you that this is my first ever game of mafia and at the time this did seems completely logical to me, although I've figured out that I assume way to much On June 29 2012 20:22 Intact wrote: I think I saw this type of play in a previous mafia game. Not sure which one though. There were 2 mafia who argued agressivly towards eachother early on. This reminds me of that occasion. This is basically Intact's first move of the game: A vague reference to how maybe JH and Anacletus might both be scum, but presented in such a way that it's easy to distance yourself from later on. I acknowledge that I responded with agreement that this could be a useful bit of analysis if one of them flipped red, but knowing that both were town makes this look like an attempt to get discussion moving toward a mislynch. Explanation: + Show Spoiler + I don't see how this is suspicious or scummy at all, I'm trying to make a read and be a little meta. Also, it is promoting discussion. Ofcourse it looked bad after analectus and JH flipped town, but this was just me posting my thoughts and observations and trying to promote discussion On June 30 2012 10:29 Intact wrote: I'm going to stand by my read as analectus being scum but I have also become very suspicious of promethelax. People may have been bandwagoning analectus but as soon as he got into lynching territory promethelax show up with a long thread pointing out someone else, thereby making some people switch vote. This causes divisions and tensions among the town which is exactly what the scum want. I lean more towards fencer just playing badly and promethelax trying to save his scum partner analectus. I really don't see anything suspicious about Promethelax's case against Fencer. I think I'm not alone when I say that he's around the top of the suspects list at the moment. What about Promethelax's analysis of Fencer's play seemed suspicious? This seems like an attempt to just sow dissent without any real logic behind it. Explanation: + Show Spoiler + As I have explanied earlier, I was really convinced of my read as analectus being scum and thus promethelax coming out with a late post to save him seemed to fit perfectly with what my read was. Later this turned out to be all wrong ofcourse On June 30 2012 10:48 Intact wrote: In addition, should we lynch analectus and he turns put to be mafia, it would make it fairly easy to point out the other mafia. And if he turns out to be townie it would be very easy to confirm some townies. Anacletus was, in fact, one of the good guys. We banned him. By what logic are we now able to confirm some townies? This post is just stupid, and to me it stinks of someone who is playing with the full information that a PBU has, and hasn't thought through the logic of the limited information environment that we town players are in enough to fake logical conclusions that sound like they were made by a townie. Explanation: + Show Spoiler + Already explained this but my only defence is bad play and posting without thinking it through. It did seem logical to me when I posted Intact tries to call Myles scum and as soon as I suggest that he commmit to his read he backs off saying that he just felt that he had to get the bandwag- err ball rolling. + Show Spoiler + Again, I'm just trying to get discussion going early on. I realize I was a bit too eager to get a read off and again I'm gonna have to point to my inexperience. That should cover it for the moment, I'll post my reads shortly after thinking them through, been mostly concerned with defending myself the lasts couple of days. | ||
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My thoughts are that either BLinD-RawR or Hopeless1der are scum. BLinD-RawR has been posting a lot in order to avoid being labeled a lurker but none of his post actually contribute anything and he frequently jumps on the bandwagon. The case is similar with Hopeless1der. Analectus was lynched without even trying to defend himself and everyone was annoyed. Now that you are about to misslynch me I've actually tried to defend myself and yet you are about to do the same misstake all over again. | ||
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