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PC cooling options and suggestions

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 julianto   June 26 2012 08:28. Posts 1859
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I have read about a few varieties of cooling the PC, involving combinations of CPU/GPU/Case Fan/Heat Sink/Water-Heat Sink.

I have an Intel Core i7 2600 @ 3.4 GHz, 700W Power Supply, and a Zotac geforce gtx 570 amp graphics card inside a Dell XPS 8300 case. It can play high settings fine on games like d3 and sc2, but I'm worried about the computer overheating.

I have many cooling options, but I need some guidance, as I don't want to go overboard and waste a lot of money, but I don't want the components to overheat while I'm playing hours on end.
Please recommend a cooling system that is just right, with just a very slight emphasis on budget. Thanks!
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 TheToast   United States. June 26 2012 08:41. Posts 4804
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Since you are not overclocking, fans will be just fine.

Also, you might try searching? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324136
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
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 julianto   June 26 2012 08:44. Posts 1859
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Yeah, I'm not overclocking. By the sound of it, it looks like I only need ~$30 fans? What type of fans, though? Case, CPU, GPU?
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 TheToast   United States. June 26 2012 09:14. Posts 4804
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On June 26 2012 08:44 julianto wrote:
Yeah, I'm not overclocking. By the sound of it, it looks like I only need ~$30 fans? What type of fans, though? Case, CPU, GPU?


Your GPU will come with a fan already installed, CPU will also come with a stock heatsink/fan combo that would be sufficient. If you are interested in lower temps or a quieter PC, you can invest in a third party CPU cooler, but that's entirely optional.

If you're reusing a Dell XPS case, I would think it already has fans in it. Right? Anyway, I'm not sure what to tell you for that. Prebuilt model cases are built to standards specific to the stock hardware. Is there even a space for more than one case fan? A single 120mm fan may not be enough if the front panel doesn't have sufficient airflow.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
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 julianto   June 26 2012 09:22. Posts 1859
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On June 26 2012 09:14 TheToast wrote:

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Your GPU will come with a fan already installed, CPU will also come with a stock heatsink/fan combo that would be sufficient. If you are interested in lower temps or a quieter PC, you can invest in a third party CPU cooler, but that's entirely optional.

If you're reusing a Dell XPS case, I would think it already has fans in it. Right? Anyway, I'm not sure what to tell you for that. Prebuilt model cases are built to standards specific to the stock hardware. Is there even a space for more than one case fan? A single 120mm fan may not be enough if the front panel doesn't have sufficient airflow.

It has a case fan that's connected to the motherboard (I have barely any idea what I'm talking about). The XPS 8300 case has no holes for air flow in the front. By the looks of it, there isn't much room for any more fans inside this case.
Two questions:
- Is it a good idea to remove the side panel? I've read that exposing the guts of the PC will actually interfere with air flow and in the long-term, causes more heat (?)
But if I remove the side panel, then I would have room to place a fan facing the components.
- Is it sufficient to place an external secondary fan?
Last edit: 2012-06-26 09:23:59
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  JingleHell   United States. June 26 2012 09:49. Posts 11262Profile Blog # 

On June 26 2012 09:22 julianto wrote:

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It has a case fan that's connected to the motherboard (I have barely any idea what I'm talking about). The XPS 8300 case has no holes for air flow in the front. By the looks of it, there isn't much room for any more fans inside this case.
Two questions:
- Is it a good idea to remove the side panel? I've read that exposing the guts of the PC will actually interfere with air flow and in the long-term, causes more heat (?)
But if I remove the side panel, then I would have room to place a fan facing the components.
- Is it sufficient to place an external secondary fan?


I'd suggest asking yourself why you want lower temps, finding out what your current temps are, and seeing what you need to do to get them lower. Odds are, your biggest improvement would come from buying a non-shit case to transplant to.

Or even a less-shit case. Unless you have specific needs or wants based on personal preference or gimmicks for fun, basically anything with some holes in it will have good enough airflow for a relatively basic rig.
Last edit: 2012-06-26 09:50:17
http://jinglehelltech.blogspot.com -- Pics of my rig in Profile
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 julianto   June 26 2012 10:07. Posts 1859
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On June 26 2012 09:49 JingleHell wrote:

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I'd suggest asking yourself why you want lower temps, finding out what your current temps are, and seeing what you need to do to get them lower. Odds are, your biggest improvement would come from buying a non-shit case to transplant to.

Or even a less-shit case. Unless you have specific needs or wants based on personal preference or gimmicks for fun, basically anything with some holes in it will have good enough airflow for a relatively basic rig.

I just removed the front bezel, which reveals many holes.
Also, I think I'll remove the side panel whenever I'm going to play for hours.
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 TheToast   United States. June 26 2012 10:09. Posts 4804
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On June 26 2012 09:22 julianto wrote:

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It has a case fan that's connected to the motherboard (I have barely any idea what I'm talking about). The XPS 8300 case has no holes for air flow in the front. By the looks of it, there isn't much room for any more fans inside this case.
Two questions:
- Is it a good idea to remove the side panel? I've read that exposing the guts of the PC will actually interfere with air flow and in the long-term, causes more heat (?)
But if I remove the side panel, then I would have room to place a fan facing the components.
- Is it sufficient to place an external secondary fan?


I'm going to have to agree 100% with JingleHell, you really should by a decent case that's actually designed for custom builds. I personally would not want to put my shiny new i7 in that sauna of a case. It's designed specifically for a prebuilt model with much lower end hardware that doesn't get as hot and need as much cooling. Putting higher end gaming hardware in there is not a good idea. While you could probably get water cooling to work, that's a lot of expensive fucking around. You can get a decent case for pretty cheap these days, there's tons of choices on New Egg.

And PS, opening the side of the case could only interfere with airflow if that actually is airflow to begin with. Lol.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
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  JingleHell   United States. June 26 2012 10:10. Posts 11262Profile Blog # 

On June 26 2012 10:07 julianto wrote:

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I just removed the front bezel, which reveals many holes.
Also, I think I'll remove the side panel whenever I'm going to play for hours.


Removing the side panel isn't terrible in a case with less airflow. Unless you're in a high-dust environment, or near children or animals.
http://jinglehelltech.blogspot.com -- Pics of my rig in Profile
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 Thezftw   Finland. June 26 2012 16:07. Posts 116
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In some cases though, removing side panel may in fact cause certain parts to heat more (airflow pressure loss) - but in your case I'm quite sure removing the side panel can do only good.

I'd suggest you to get rid of that Dell thing and buy a decent 50-150$ case for your rig. Like JingleHell said, basically anything will do - OEM cases are more often than not horrible.

Examples, Fractal Design

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352010
- It's cheap and it has holes.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352013
- Costs a bit more, but has more refined looks and has some noise-dampening stuff in it.

Lian-Li

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112336
- Has plenty of space and can most likely serve for your future rigs as well.

Bitfenix
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811345013
- Nothing too fancy, but has a fair amount of cooling options

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811345012
- Same as above, but doesn't have side panel mounts nor holes.

If you want your CPU cooled, look for Thermalright Macho HR-02 or similar coolers. They're quite cheap for what you get really. If your case cooling is good that thing can probably cool your CPU passively - but just to be sure mount a fan on it.
Last edit: 2012-06-26 16:15:52
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 julianto   June 26 2012 16:18. Posts 1859
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On June 26 2012 16:07 Thezftw wrote:
In some cases though, removing side panel may in fact cause certain parts to heat more (airflow pressure loss) - but in your case I'm quite sure removing the side panel can do only good.

I'd suggest you to get rid of that Dell thing and buy a decent 50-150$ case for your rig. Like JingleHell said, basically anything will do - OEM cases are more often than not horrible.

Examples, Fractal Design

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352010
- It's cheap and it has holes.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352013
- Costs a bit more, but has more refined looks and has some noise-dampening stuff in it.

Lian-Li

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112336
- Has plenty of space and can most likely serve for your future rigs as well.

Bitfenix
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811345013
- Nothing too fancy, but has a fair amount of cooling options

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811345012
- Same as above, but doesn't have side panel mounts nor holes.

If you want your CPU cooled, look for Thermalright Macho HR-02 or similar coolers. They're quite cheap for what you get really. If your case cooling is good that thing can probably cool your CPU passively - but just to be sure mount a fan on it.

Wow, thanks a lot! I'll look into these.
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