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Xiphos Canada. June 26 2012 09:29. Posts 5732 | Profile Blog # |
"Continue the Classic, Unleash the Passion"
Guys, I have some VERY exciting news for all of you guys.
China have a even higher level tournament than this one. This is one is actually called "2012 China SC:BW Forum Battles".
The REAL CSTL featured 30 teams instead of only 5 listed here.
Original Message From mcm_mingge: i have read you posts about SC in CHINA.And i want to tell you something about SC in CHINA; STL is short for StarCraft Team League,we have many starcraft amateur teams.You have found it ,almost 30.STL has held for 24 seasons ,not 23,and is in playoff these days .24th STL will end almost in 7,9.STL is divided into 3 groups.Group a,b,c.Every group consists of 10 teams. I think that you may be good at Chinese ,from this thread http://playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=281970&extra=page%3D1 ,It is forum battles,there are 5 famous forums about BW in china ,and they play against each other.. As for http://kan.games.sina.com.cn/u/play.php?uid=2446697112,,this thread is living the game.Many guys are living BW, SC is not dying in china.
In the future, I'll try keep you posted on the genuine STL!
P.S. I wish the mod can change the title to "2012 China SC:BW Forum Battles" now and move it to tournament section!
What Motivated Me: + Show Spoiler +To begin, I have posted stuff like + Show Spoiler + On June 13 2012 12:31 2yph0n wrote: Oh yeah while we are on the subject of Foreign Tournaments, the Chinese actually still have many BW tournies with players like F91 (the one that defeated Idra) and FengZi (WCG Grand Finalist). By the looks of it, their servers categorizes each players by levels. F91 is level 16 but there are also many, many people who have attain the level status of "Professional" as a whole new class after level 19. So their level of play is fairly high imo.
I will post up an entire new thread later on any further details that allows TLers to watch their live streams/ VODs and etc.
Holy shit apparently there leagues are actually separated by 'Semi-Pro' and 'Full-time'
To which ImbaTosS responded with + Show Spoiler + On June 13 2012 17:19 ImbaTosS wrote: Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 12:31 2yph0n wrote: Oh yeah while we are on the subject of Foreign Tournaments, the Chinese actually still have many BW tournies with players like F91 (the one that defeated Idra) and FengZi (WCG Grand Finalist). By the looks of it, their servers categorizes each players by levels. F91 is level 16 but there are also many, many people who have attain the level status of "Professional" as a whole new class after level 19. So their level of play is fairly high imo.
I will post up an entire new thread later on any further details that allows TLers to watch their live streams/ VODs and etc.
Holy shit apparently there leagues are actually separated by 'Semi-Pro' and 'Full-time'
Seriously? I tried to delve towards the Chinese scene a little while ago and met a bit of a brick wall- it seems to be even harder to get near to than the Korean scene! Please follow this up, a lot of good can come of it 
Now Caihead have some very interesting news on the link: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=347791 and I have finally some free time on my hand and have some new information on Chinese StarCraft: Brood War scene and a bit of historical lesson of how I even managed to get myself to there in the first place.
Historical Encounter and Basic Understanding for the League + Show Spoiler + On June 25 2012 23:40 Xiphos wrote:Lads and gents here is what I know about the current Chinese Scene Recently, I have managed to get back on THE oldest computer from the family that still utilizes OS like Windows 97. Because of my curiosity, I wondered around and messed with it a bit there and there. Now you are probably thinking "What the hell does this have to do with StarCraft?". Well it turns out that my cousin that gave me the computer was a huge fan of the game and 9 years back, he used it for netsurfing and such. So on the favorite/bookmark folder, there were around 8 Chinese Websites dedicated to Brood War/WarCraft/Age of Empire and pretty much anything RTS related from the golden age. Most of the sites are unactive and some of them are even expired as its mod probably have decided to not pay for the fees anymore. This is some paleontology stuff right there. However, on one of the Websites, it re-directed me to Playsc.com. Once the link appeared in front of me, the slogan reads "We only talk about SC". And I thought "Cool, something I can related to." Then as I navigated through the board, there was a thread that says "2012年中国星际争霸论坛水友赛" which vaguely translates to "2012 China StarCraft Team League" that goes by the abbreviation of STL. So then I digged deeper in this whole enigmatic presence of this league. And by my research, this is the 23rd 'STL' held to this day. The League spans for a total of 23 seasons. This is the thread by the way: http://playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=281970&extra=page%3D1It looks like the Chinese have their own system of hierarchy with the list provided. With a little bit more of digging closer to the core of the Interweb mantle, I have found another site with identical information pertaining to the league. The official website is at: http://www.8da.com/forum.phpIf you scroll down the link to the third section separated by the Blue Bars, you will find a subheading "STL战队专区", it means STL Team Forum. 30 teams are listed underneath. 30 is not a number that can go underestimated. As I aforementioned their method of ranking and going back to the tournament page (first link), there are 5 teams currently listed on the Participation list (more Teams are being contacted). There is also a link on 八达 vs 遥远 (8da vs Yaoyun), looks like forum battles and 确定 means confirmed by the teams just below that. Beside it, you can find http://kan.games.sina.com.cn/u/play.php?uid=2446697112 Which is the VOD of the first match played recently. You can check their level of play by watching the VOD.
Participating Teams/Rosters
Lv. 19 = Professional Lv. 18 = Almost Pro Lv. 17 = Semi-Pro
WanFeng + Show Spoiler + Captains:scsronaldo、TianxiA
VS ID/Race Played/VS Server Level The.WKFighting (P) Lv. 18 The_april (T) Lv. 18 for TvP, Lv. 16 for TvZ/TvT The.weifeng009 (P) Lv. 17, Strong @ PvP The.FJ (P) Lv. 17-18 princeofstar (P) WF_Zero0 (Z) mengyichongzu (P) WF_ttp007 (P) ACE496553161 (P) Lv. 16 wanfengbaozi (T) 313310081 (Z)
PLU ![[image loading]](http://oi48.tinypic.com/2hp5b4i.jpg) + Show Spoiler + Captain:lost789
VS ID/Race Played/VS Server Level: _JeDi__ (Z) Lv. 19 for ZvZ/ZvT, Lv. 18 for ZvP Heroes_Pan (P) Lv. 18 for PvT/PvZ, Lv. 16 – 17 for PvP Fenix_king (T) Lv. 16 zdy (Z) ziyifans (Z) nianniantong (Z) Lv. 16 kkllklkl (P) Lv. 17 QQ五竹 (P) Lv. 19 for PvZ, Lv. 16 for PvP/PvT dingdanghehe (P) ST.0772boy (T) F91 (Z) Lv. 16
YaoYuan ![[image loading]](http://oi46.tinypic.com/98dabd.jpg) + Show Spoiler + Captains:yey_kakaru、Lee-Jaedong
VS ID/Race Played/ VS Server Level: [Medo]Julyzerg_MBC (P) Lv. 17 GP).BBB_Terran (T) Lv. 17 90_Emperor (Z) 2v2 specialist Aystar (Z) Lv 17 ChanyF (T)Was Lv. 18, inactive for 2 years GP).GP_aoao (P) Lv. 17, Weak PvZ GP).GP_HpwyL (T) Lv. 16, Weak TvT guoqian (P) Lv. 18 Is__999 (Z) Lv. 18, Strong ZvZ, Weaker ZvP.ZvT SKTelecomBisu (P) Lv. 18
PlaySC ![[image loading]](http://oi48.tinypic.com/e34w1.jpg) + Show Spoiler + Captains:allen3939、Edmund
VS ID/Race Played/ VS Server Level: GP).Beleizerg (Z) Lv. 17, Strong ZvP sc_fire001 (T) love_991 (T) _die_jaedong (Z) Lv 18, Lv. 19 for ZvP StarToss_cn (P) Lv. 17, Lv. 19 for PvP playsc_allzr (T) Royalabbey (P) Zergling_ (Z) Lv. 18 my1hero (T) playsc_mars (P) =Hist=991 (T) Lv.18 Mihu (?) (T)
8da ![[image loading]](http://oi49.tinypic.com/21enfrb.jpg) + Show Spoiler + Captains: NCSA.soul FoR..8BB
ID/Race Played: 神经病 (P) Lv. 18 战术大师 (P) Lv. 18 Highdark (P) Lv. 18 yth11111 (P) 星星^_^ (P) jois (P) Lv. 17 YF_Toona (P) Lv. 17 Svs_fengzi (Z) Lv. 19 _1029 (Z) Lv. 17 Agile_AQ (T) Lv. 18 Bjn.Vulture (P) Lv. 18 Frds.东海 (P) Lv. 18, Lv. 19 for PvZ Ace.战魂 (P) Lv. 19, Number 1 Chinese Protoss Player
Maps: 2 vs 2s: First 5 matches: Hannibal1.1 Last 5 matches: Hunters_KeSPA1.3
1 vs 1s: Destination 1.1 Circuit Breakers 1.0 Neo Sniper Ridge 2.0 Neo Ground Zero 2.0 Fighting Spirit 1.3 Python 1.3
PLU’s map removal: Vs WanFeng: Python 1.3 Vs PlaySC: Destination1.1 Vs YaoYuan: Destination1. Vs 8da: Python 1.3
8da’s map removal: Vs YaoYuan: Neo Sniper Ridge 2.0 Vs PlaySC: Neo Ground Zero 2.0 Vs WF: Python 1.3 Vs PLU: Destination 1.1
WanFeng’s map removal: Neo Ground Zero 2.0 for all matches
YaoYuan’s map removal: vs 8da: Neo Ground Zero 2.0 vs PLU: Destination 1.1 vs WanFeng: Destination 1.1 vs PlaySC : Destination 1.1
PlaySC’s map removal: Neo Ground Zero 2.0 for all matches
Format Best of 5 : 4 1 vs 1s and 1 2v2, all five games MUST be played Game 1:1v1 Game 2:1v1 Game 3:2v2 Game 4:1v1 Game 5:1v1
Players Selection Rules Each team picks 10 players with 1 or 2 captains 1 vs 1 players can’t be played repeatedly while 2 vs 2 players can.
Race Selection You have to select one permanent race upon registration. Cannot be random in 1 vs 1,players are allowed to use different races in 2 vs 2 with the exception of the following composition: Zerg + Zerg, Zerg + Random, Random and Random .
Server (The two sides can negotiates to using other servers) VS Battle Platform (http://game.vsa.com.cn/vsmain/jsp/comm/index.jsp - Instruction Coming Soon)
Game Version (The participating parties and live group may arrange to use other versions) 1.16.1
Replay Packs After each math being played, reps are almost immediately released to the public through 8da.com but you do require the registration of the site that is in Chinese so I have decided to download them and uploaded to 4shared.com for the foreigners to get a taste of what they have to offer.
June 16th, 2012 - 8da vs YaoYuan: http://www.sendspace.com/file/81efaq June 17th, 2012 - WanFeng vs PLU: http://www.sendspace.com/file/q3f20n June 19th, 2012 - PlaySC vs 8da: http://www.sendspace.com/file/twxvsx June 23rd, 2012 - PLU vs PlaySC: http://www.sendspace.com/file/2zm689 June 24th, 2012 - YaoYuan vs WanFeng: http://www.sendspace.com/file/aehn8a June 26th, 2012 - 8da vs WanFeng: http://www.sendspace.com/file/wtqmu7 June 27th , 2012 - YaoYuan vs PLU: http://www.sendspace.com/file/qggpcs June 29th, 2012 - WanFeng vs PlaySC: http://www.sendspace.com/file/56ykr0 July 3rd, 2012 - 8da vs PLU: http://www.sendspace.com/file/cgb9me July 5th, 2012 - YaoYuan vs PlaySC: http://www.sendspace.com/file/co2rqf English Casting!
Courtesy of TheShimmy
Original Message From TheShimmy: You are saving the TeamLiquid BW community. Just when so so many of us thought we were doomed to be playing/watching SC2 forever, China pulls out to be THIS FREAKING AWESOME. Wow! Is all I have to say. I will definitely be casting this content in English. Let me know what time the matches start so I can do my best to cast whenever, even if its through replay. I am all in in helping any way I can in saving the BW scene.
So drum roll please! Here comes TheShimmy with English commentary. June 26th, 2012 - 8da vs WanFeng Link: http://www.twitch.tv/theshimmybw/b/322833456
June 27th , 2012 - YaoYuan vs PLU Link: http://www.twitch.tv/theshimmybw/b/322946996
June 29th, 2012 - WanFeng vs PlaySC Link: http://www.twitch.tv/theshimmybw/b/323163444
July 3rd, 2012 - 8da vs PLU Link: http://www.twitch.tv/theshimmybw/b/323725186
Also check his commentary thread @ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=347039 for further updates.
Results [Spoilers Incoming]
8da vs YaoYuan + Show Spoiler +
WanFeng vs PLU + Show Spoiler +
8da vs PlaySC + Show Spoiler +
PLU vs PlaySC + Show Spoiler +
YaoYuan vs WanFeng + Show Spoiler +
8da vs WanFeng + Show Spoiler +
YaoYuan vs PLU + Show Spoiler +
WanFeng vs PlaySC + Show Spoiler +
8da vs PLU + Show Spoiler +
YaoYun vs PlaySC + Show Spoiler +
Current Ranking Link to detail performance (Simplified Chinese): http://www.liansai.net/Match_index.aspx?Match_ID=612 + Show Spoiler + 1. 8da (4 - 0) 2. PlaySC (3 - 1) 3. PLU (2 - 2) 4. YaoYuan (1 - 3) 5. WanFeng (0 - 4)
To-Do-List - Updating this thread at the best of my ability with more details - Getting us a viable stream link for LIVE - Attempt to bridge the communities togetherLast edit: 2012-07-06 07:34:14 |
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Caihead Canada. June 26 2012 09:34. Posts 5139 | Profile Blog # |
| you can have this one if your gonna update teh news and translate it, lols |
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Xiphos Canada. June 26 2012 09:35. Posts 5732 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 09:34 Caihead wrote: you can have this one if your gonna update teh news and translate it, lols
Wait, were you planning to manage this project? |
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Caihead Canada. June 26 2012 09:37. Posts 5139 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 09:35 Xiphos wrote: Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 09:34 Caihead wrote: you can have this one if your gonna update teh news and translate it, lols
Wait, were you planning to manage this project?
dahhhh.... i would need to do alot of research, might take a while, i was hoping to do an R&S thread like the ones for OSL where I list out the history etc before doing the current thread
that would take a while any way so having a thread up is coolLast edit: 2012-06-26 09:38:47 |
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Xiphos Canada. June 26 2012 09:41. Posts 5732 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 09:37 Caihead wrote: Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 09:35 Xiphos wrote: On June 26 2012 09:34 Caihead wrote: you can have this one if your gonna update teh news and translate it, lols
Wait, were you planning to manage this project?
dahhhh.... i would need to do alot of research, might take a while, i was hoping to do an R&S thread like the ones for OSL where I list out the history etc before doing the current thread
I tried to get a megathread of the league on the forums and stuff but not much showed up but
Omg that would be just awesome!
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2Pacalypse- Croatia. June 26 2012 09:47. Posts 4071 | Profile # |
I think you guys should collaborate, to get the best coverage.
Learning about the new scene is exciting! |
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Harem United States. June 26 2012 09:49. Posts 9351 | Profile # |
| Why does it say that you need to sign up to download the reps on 4shared? ._. |
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Xiphos Canada. June 26 2012 09:52. Posts 5732 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 09:47 2Pacalypse- wrote: I think you guys should collaborate, to get the best coverage.
Learning about the new scene is exciting!
I'm all for it!
Not sure about Caihead tho.
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Caihead Canada. June 26 2012 09:52. Posts 5139 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 09:49 Harem wrote: Why does it say that you need to sign up to download the reps on 4shared? ._.
lol xiphos you noobs |
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Caihead Canada. June 26 2012 09:52. Posts 5139 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 09:52 Xiphos wrote: Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 09:47 2Pacalypse- wrote: I think you guys should collaborate, to get the best coverage.
Learning about the new scene is exciting!
I'm all for it! Not sure about Caihead tho.
I have no problems with collaborating, do you know chinese / well? |
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Xiphos Canada. June 26 2012 09:56. Posts 5732 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 09:52 Caihead wrote: Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 09:49 Harem wrote: Why does it say that you need to sign up to download the reps on 4shared? ._.
lol xiphos you noobs
Hey what's with all the hostility? Not sure what past bad deeds I've done to you but I definitely do not like the negative vibes. |
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Caihead Canada. June 26 2012 09:57. Posts 5139 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 09:56 Xiphos wrote: Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 09:52 Caihead wrote: On June 26 2012 09:49 Harem wrote: Why does it say that you need to sign up to download the reps on 4shared? ._.
lol xiphos you noobs
Hey what's with all the hostility? Not sure what past bad deeds I've done to you but I definitely do not like the negative vibes.
shhhhh i'm just being sarcastic, sorry if I offended you :< <3 |
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| Gao Xi Hong Kong. June 26 2012 10:07. Posts 4975 | Profile Blog # |
Signing is free, iirc. Harem just super lazy  |
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| Gao Xi Hong Kong. June 26 2012 10:24. Posts 4975 | Profile Blog # |
I would but my I can't read simplified that well, so i fold.  |
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ArvickHero June 26 2012 10:27. Posts 9378 | Profile Blog # |
http://kan.games.sina.com.cn/u/play.php?uid=2446697112
holy shit these games ...
errr just go skip to 33:50 to see how unique these games are LOL |
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| amazingxkcd United States. June 26 2012 10:30. Posts 2678 | Profile # |
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]343[ United States. June 26 2012 10:38. Posts 8153 | Profile Blog # |
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| Zhang United States. June 26 2012 10:45. Posts 120 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 10:27 ArvickHero wrote:holy shit these games ... errr just go skip to 33:50 to see how unique these games are LOL
Yeah wtf was that. Was this a legit game or was one of the players trying to show off? |
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