| uriel- Singapore. June 27 2012 12:25. Posts 621 | Profile # |
27/6 OSL Ro8 Match C Interview with Flash: 4 titles are a must! Referees need to change their attitude
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Thoughts on entering the final 4?
> I'm definitely glad. With just 2 opponents remaining, I need to put on a must-win mentality and play with even greater competitiveness.
Although the score was 3:1, there was a rematch that caused some delay
> It is really disappointing that such things can happen in the last OSL. I was really angry. Shine apologized to me, but what made me angry was the referee. I think Shine was a victim as well so I hope he does not feel the need to be apologetic about it.
Were you flustered by the decision to have a rematch?
> Definitely. It wasted so much time. I felt this was 100% the mistake of the organizers, yet they just rid themselves of all responsibility and simply ordered a rematch. There was not a hint of apology despite them being at fault, and they were constantly using a demanding tone as well. If they would just admit their mistake and offer a simple apology the atmosphere would not have been so horrible. Also, this is not the first time that something like this has happened, and the players have been mentioning such issues for some time now. I hope what needs to be changed and improved can be addressed.
You looked extremely emotional during the incident, how did you face the remaining matches?
> Assistant coach Hery and the head coach came to help me calm my mental state and focus on the match. They told be that it was definitely a bad call and that I had to win. That made me really want to finish the match.
Talk of the rematch aside, you got hit by a proxy Nydus Canal
> I have not performed well on that map during practice either. When I saw the Nydus Canal I thought it was such an impressive strategy, I wanted to applaud Shine for it.
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The SCV scout in match 1 turned out to be crucial
> I'm not sure if people think that was a bug, basically I right clicked a mineral patch to scout. After the first match KHAN requested a check and both the referee and the observer verified it.
Impressively, you managed to discover the burrowed Zerglings in the final set
> It's a key aspect of my play, a "sense" to put it in words. If I sense that something seems off, I scan. I was quite confused at first when I saw his army strength. It was a good match for me.
Your TvZ streak stops at 15.
> I felt I was capable of a 20 streak, but sadly I was sniped. Though disappointing, I've already mentioned in the SPL interview that I'm not too concerned about streaks, so it's alright. Compared to streaks, grabbing the 4th title is the most important thing.
How do you feel about the 4th title?
> I must have it. It's not just the fans that want it, but I myself. I hope everyone will look forward to my performance. Also, with the rematch decision today, coach Hery left the grounds in protest. When the head coach heard of this, he rushed to the studio despite being in the middle of shifting apartments. Same for assistant coach Lee and many of the staff, so thank you to everyone for the support. Finally, thanks to all the Zergs who helped me with practice.
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On June 27 2012 12:45 doothegee wrote:
Hery didn't leave in protest, he got ejected by the referees.
Thanks doothegee. From the interview (in Chinese) my understanding is that Flash said Hery left in protest, so it could be a mistranslation on my part, the Chinese site's part, or maybe Flash misunderstood the situation.
Source: http://www.wfbrood.com/xingji/hanguoxingji/xingji_69926.html
(Translated from Chinese)
Thought this might be interesting, since no one has translated it yet and the match had quite a bit of drama to it. Do point out any mistakes I might have made 
EDIT: Background on the rematch incident for people who didn't watch:
In match 2 Shine went for a 2-hatch ling aggression into low-economy Mutas, which left very little room for a transition if it failed to do enough damage. Flash looked to have stabilized with 2 well saturated bases, a wall of turrets and climbing tech versus a techless, drone-deficient Shine. At the point where it looked to be do or die for Shine (who from my point of view already had nearly no chance), he flew his Mutas in to suicide and then requested a pause, citing hardware failure. The referees did a check and decided that it was due to Shine not checking his settings before the game, and that the game should resume from the pause with no regame (almost guaranteeing Flash the win).
However, there was a problem with the save file or something and it turned out that a resume was not possible. Thus there was no choice but to have a regame, from a position that Flash was heavily favored to win after barely holding off the early aggression. The entire incident took about an hour or more to resolve (I didn't keep track). I'm not entirely sure why there was a problem of corrupted saves. Note: the above is my understanding of the situation from watching it live + LR thread comments. If I got any facts wrong please correct me thanks.
Edit (update):
It seems the referee responsible for the decision has been fined 500k won and barred from refereeing for the remainder of the OSL. KesPA convened some emergency meeting and agreed that a bad call was made, and an apology has been issued to KT, KT's coach Lee, Flash, Samsung Khan and Khan's head coach January.
Source: http://www.wfbrood.com/xingji/hanguoxingji/xingji_69930.htmlLast edit: 2012-06-27 22:07:02 |
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| neobowman Canada. June 27 2012 12:29. Posts 2862 | Profile Blog # |
For those who did not see the games, could we get some info on the rematch incident?
And thanks for the translation =). |
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| MountainDewJunkie United States. June 27 2012 12:39. Posts 9320 | Profile Blog # |
| So what did Flash want? A better attempt at judging whether or not Flash was definitively ahead in the game before whatever malfunction it was happened? I assume that's what he means? |
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| corumjhaelen France. June 27 2012 12:43. Posts 4784 | Profile Blog # |
On June 27 2012 12:39 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
So what did Flash want? A better attempt at judging whether or not Flash was definitively ahead in the game before whatever malfunction it was happened? I assume that's what he means?
What went wrong :
1) The whole thing took 45mins to get solved.
2) They first decided to warn Shine and to resume the game. Apparently they made a save but it somehow did not work anymore. Wtf ?
3) After 2) happened, there's no way they should not give the win to Flash. Instead they chose to regame somehow. |
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| uriel- Singapore. June 27 2012 12:44. Posts 621 | Profile # |
On June 27 2012 12:29 neobowman wrote:
For those who did not see the games, could we get some info on the rematch incident?
And thanks for the translation =).
Sure thing, edited into the OP. |
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| doothegee Korea (South). June 27 2012 12:45. Posts 3011 | Profile # |
| Hery didn't leave in protest, he got ejected by the referees. |
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| corumjhaelen France. June 27 2012 12:47. Posts 4784 | Profile Blog # |
| All that being said, thanks for the translation. Work hard Flash, and I sure hope you succeed =) |
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| Caihead Canada. June 27 2012 12:47. Posts 5157 | Profile Blog # |
| *achoo* can i add this to the interview compilation thread? |
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| uriel- Singapore. June 27 2012 12:48. Posts 621 | Profile # |
On June 27 2012 12:45 doothegee wrote:
Hery didn't leave in protest, he got ejected by the referees.
Thanks doothegee. From the interview (in Chinese) my understanding is that Flash said Hery left in protest, so it could be a mistranslation on my part, the Chinese site's part, or maybe Flash misunderstood the situation. Edited into the OP.
On June 27 2012 12:47 Caihead wrote:
*achoo* can i add this to the interview compilation thread?
Oh sure, I wasn't aware there was a thread for this. Sorry if I stole your interview, lol.Last edit: 2012-06-27 12:49:37 |
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| Caihead Canada. June 27 2012 12:51. Posts 5157 | Profile Blog # |
On June 27 2012 12:48 uriel- wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 12:45 doothegee wrote:
Hery didn't leave in protest, he got ejected by the referees.
Thanks doothegee. From the interview (in Chinese) my understanding is that Flash said Hery left in protest, so it could be a mistranslation on my part, the Chinese site's part, or maybe Flash misunderstood the situation. Edited into the OP.
Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 12:47 Caihead wrote:
*achoo* can i add this to the interview compilation thread?
Oh sure, I wasn't aware there was a thread for this. Sorry if I stole your interview, lol.
alright will do, credit to you
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=346334 |
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| MrCon France. June 27 2012 12:54. Posts 20356 | Profile # |
| Can someone explain the scv scout thing in game 1 ? |
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| jidolboy Canada. June 27 2012 12:55. Posts 881 | Profile # |
After the first match KHAN requested a check and both the referee and the observer verified it.
What's KHAN?
wow it also took about 45min?
Didn't know since VOD was trimmed down to 25min'ish :oLast edit: 2012-06-27 12:57:36 |
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| GulpyBlinkeyes United States. June 27 2012 12:59. Posts 670 | Profile # |
| Thanks for the translation and the summary! I missed these matches, so I was unaware. |
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| Caihead Canada. June 27 2012 13:06. Posts 5157 | Profile Blog # |
On June 27 2012 12:55 jidolboy wrote:
After the first match KHAN requested a check and both the referee and the observer verified it.
What's KHAN?
wow it also took about 45min?
Didn't know since VOD was trimmed down to 25min'ish :o
Samsung Khan? Shine's team. |
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| Caihead Canada. June 27 2012 13:06. Posts 5157 | Profile Blog # |
On June 27 2012 12:54 MrCon wrote:
Can someone explain the scv scout thing in game 1 ?
Flash snuck an SCV back into Shine's base that should have been blocked if he didn't use the mineral click trick to find the hydra-den, it helped him prepare for the 2 hatch lurker rush.Last edit: 2012-06-27 13:07:06 |
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| 4vvhiplash7 South Africa. June 27 2012 13:11. Posts 392 | Profile # |
On June 27 2012 12:55 jidolboy wrote:
After the first match KHAN requested a check and both the referee and the observer verified it.
What's KHAN?
wow it also took about 45min?
Didn't know since VOD was trimmed down to 25min'ish :o
"Samsung KHAN" is Shine's team... |
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| kdgns United States. June 27 2012 13:17. Posts 1447 | Profile # |
On June 27 2012 12:43 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 12:39 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
So what did Flash want? A better attempt at judging whether or not Flash was definitively ahead in the game before whatever malfunction it was happened? I assume that's what he means?
What went wrong : 1) The whole thing took 45mins to get solved. 2) They first decided to warn Shine and to resume the game. Apparently they made a save but it somehow did not work anymore. Wtf ? 3) After 2) happened, there's no way they should not give the win to Flash. Instead they chose to regame somehow.
The reason the save file did not work was because Shine's settings were wrong so he changed the settings, this made the save file crash because the settings were different. I'm sure the blackout incident was on Flash's mind when he was being interviewed. For those who are not familiar, there was a Flash vs Jaedong MSL finals game where Jaedong had a commanding lead then the power went out, ruling out the ability to restart from a save file. The referee's decision at that time was to award Jaedong the win. |
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| S2Glow Singapore. June 27 2012 13:26. Posts 990 | Profile Blog # |
| i am pretty sure flash is not heavily favored on game 2. just a slight advantage and anything can happen , supply counts just +- 10. |
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| kdgns United States. June 27 2012 13:30. Posts 1447 | Profile # |
On June 27 2012 13:26 S2Glow wrote:
i am pretty sure flash is not heavily favored on game 2. just a slight advantage and anything can happen , supply counts just +- 10.
the problem was where the supply was, shine was heavily drone deficient so his supply is unable to increase at the same rate as flash. Most of shine's supply was devoted to his mutas which were unable to do damage because of the turrets (also he suicided them) |
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| Release United States. June 27 2012 13:47. Posts 3973 | Profile Blog # |
| Shine pretty much failed the 2 hatch muta "damage requirement." |
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