| TangyOrange Singapore. June 29 2012 17:19. Posts 52 | Profile # |
| I've noticed that the snake mobs in act 2 are really smart. They know how to time their invisible phase immaculately. For example, when I put up a zombie wall, they pop their invisibility just in time to become invulnerable and avoid being killed by my wall, leaving me with my wall off cd to die. Even worse still, when a snake is chasing me with a wall inbetween which will expire before the snake reaches it, it will know exactly when the wall expires, allowing the snake to move in a straight line towards me, not even changing its pathing to be around the wall, causing my wall to have no effect on it at all. Worse still, the snake still has invisibility off cooldown. Anyone else have similar experiences or even with other mobs? |
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| nihoh Australia. June 29 2012 17:32. Posts 938 | Profile Blog # |
I played up to Act III inferno before uninstalling. NAGA FUCKS. Made me cry. I just basically suicided into them for like 10 hours in a row. You have to have enough tankiness or you need enough damage to kill them as they uninvis right in front of you, raise their weapons and before the animation finishes they needa die. The way they're programmed is just so frustrating. Microing against them won't help that much cos you'll run out of mana with what you dodge them with.
I just wrote all that assuming you were a DH. |
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| JustPassingBy June 29 2012 18:04. Posts 6319 | Profile Blog # |
On June 29 2012 17:32 nihoh wrote:
I just wrote all that assuming you were a DH.
A Demon Hunter able to use Zombie Wall? :o |
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| Ig United States. June 29 2012 18:08. Posts 407 | Profile # |
I think the worst cheesy mobs are actually the sand lizards. Even if you have enough hp and resists to survive a few hits, they're just a pain in the ass because they burrow if you go even remotely out of melee range, or they'll sometimes just burrow again right next to you because screw you. The stealth snake guys won't stealth if you're pretty close so you can essentially deadzone them to at least frickin kill them quickly and move on.
On June 29 2012 18:04 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 17:32 nihoh wrote:
I just wrote all that assuming you were a DH.
A Demon Hunter able to use Zombie Wall? :o
With all the crossbows you get with WD skill cd reduction you would think they could...Last edit: 2012-06-29 19:23:10 |
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| TangyOrange Singapore. June 29 2012 19:04. Posts 52 | Profile # |
| Haha. Not really a class specific discussion. Just felt that wall of zombies was a skill that showed just how smart these guys are. |
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| zomgE June 29 2012 19:19. Posts 466 | Profile # |
| i just don't understand why invis = no dmg. same with smoke screen etc. |
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| Ig United States. June 29 2012 19:39. Posts 407 | Profile # |
On June 29 2012 19:19 zomgE wrote:
i just don't understand why invis = no dmg. same with smoke screen etc.
From the looks of it they coded the first one to be invulnerable and then just copy pasted the code in with a different animation for the others (probably includes the lizards too). They all work the same way really except with different animations.
At least the snakes aren't the damn lizards. I know its right there under the sand cause its damn back spikes are visible but I can't use my crossbow that can kill 30 foot tall armored demons to shoot it? Really? |
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| Juicyfruit Canada. June 29 2012 23:26. Posts 3489 | Profile # |
| I'm pretty sure you can dodge their attacks if you have enough movespeed and just run in the opposite direction of where they would appear. |
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| oneofthem Cayman Islands. June 29 2012 23:33. Posts 10336 | Profile Blog # |
| you can stun them out of invis with this barb skill. i forgot which one |
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| Iranon United States. June 29 2012 23:57. Posts 971 | Profile Blog # |
On June 29 2012 23:26 Juicyfruit wrote:
I'm pretty sure you can dodge their attacks if you have enough movespeed and just run in the opposite direction of where they would appear.
If you're a wizard, when they're invisibly moving towards you, stand still and cast blizzard on yourself. As soon as they start to appear, walk away. Almost always, their attack animation won't hit you, and by the time they're on the move again, you're far enough away to recast blizzard in front of them. Then if you stay close but out of range, they don't cloak but can't hit you. |
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| kanada Canada. June 30 2012 00:11. Posts 229 | Profile # |
| I was trying to farm act 2 and every time i get to the snakes i give up. I am a DH and know I can kill them but the fact that every time i die to them i feel it is bs pisses me off. |
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 TheMango United States. June 30 2012 00:14. Posts 1832 | Profile # |
| use caltrops, place them at your feet, then wait for them to come up to you, as they uninvis to hit you, the caltrop triggers, and you have like 1 second to back up and shoot or SS. Caltrops and spiketrap+scatter is a good combo vs them. |
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| zomgE June 30 2012 00:25. Posts 466 | Profile # |
| or activate gloom and rape their face |
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| andrewlt United States. June 30 2012 01:16. Posts 3131 | Profile # |
| This game is not even remotely near the top of the hardest games I've ever played but is easily near or at the top of the most rage-inducing games I have ever played. There's just something in the difficulty of the game that makes me angry. In contrast, it takes around 3-5 wipes from dumbass pugs in WoW to piss me off to the same degree that 1 Diablo 3 death does. |
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 Capped Sri Lanka. June 30 2012 01:20. Posts 2636 | Profile Blog # |
On June 30 2012 01:16 andrewlt wrote:
This game is not even remotely near the top of the hardest games I've ever played but is easily near or at the top of the most rage-inducing games I have ever played. There's just something in the difficulty of the game that makes me angry. In contrast, it takes around 3-5 wipes from dumbass pugs in WoW to piss me off to the same degree that 1 Diablo 3 death does.
This post made me laugh after a hard week of work, thank you. |
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| BluzMan Russian Federation. June 30 2012 03:01. Posts 3582 | Profile Blog # |
I've learned to kill unique snakes with DH.
I've learned to kill unique lizards with DH.
I've learned to kill fucking unique lacuni with DH (they love to dodge cluster arrows you know).
Then I grew the balls to complete Act 2 and spent 2 hours in the Cave of the Betrayer. After all the shit I've been through the game just said "Lol no, Fast Invulnerable Minions Molten Arcane Enchanted Spiderlings near the cave entrance, gl hf". I haven't been that frustrated over a video game for a pretty long while. Took me well over 100000 worth of repairs to complete a single cave (and no I didn't kill that pack). |
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| skatbone United States. June 30 2012 05:53. Posts 926 | Profile # |
On June 30 2012 03:01 BluzMan wrote:
I've learned to kill unique snakes with DH.
I've learned to kill unique lizards with DH.
I've learned to kill fucking unique lacuni with DH (they love to dodge cluster arrows you know).
Then I grew the balls to complete Act 2 and spent 2 hours in the Cave of the Betrayer. After all the shit I've been through the game just said "Lol no, Fast Invulnerable Minions Molten Arcane Enchanted Spiderlings near the cave entrance, gl hf". I haven't been that frustrated over a video game for a pretty long while. Took me well over 100000 worth of repairs to complete a single cave (and no I didn't kill that pack).
I hear you. I play a wizard and once I had finally geared up to get through the initial portion of Act II (damn lacuni coming out of nowhere while the poison flies float at me), I got stuck on that same damned cave. Fast minions give me the most trouble-those spiders seem to always spawn as fast...and with teleport. In those narrow caves, kiting is almost impossible. It took me a game with my monk-friend tanking to get through it. I needed more DPS.
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| Cephiro Finland. June 30 2012 05:55. Posts 662 | Profile # |
Fast+Anything+Anything+Anything of those flying souls in the Shadow Realm = <3 on a DH.
Kite them? Nope. Not a chance.
But to be on topic, the snakes aren't actually that hard if you're decently geared. Caltrops does wonders, otherwise you'll just have to be very accurate with your SS/Gloom/whatever timing. |
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| Jisall United States. June 30 2012 06:11. Posts 1548 | Profile Blog # |
On June 30 2012 03:01 BluzMan wrote:
I've learned to kill unique snakes with DH.
I've learned to kill unique lizards with DH.
I've learned to kill fucking unique lacuni with DH (they love to dodge cluster arrows you know).
Then I grew the balls to complete Act 2 and spent 2 hours in the Cave of the Betrayer. After all the shit I've been through the game just said "Lol no, Fast Invulnerable Minions Molten Arcane Enchanted Spiderlings near the cave entrance, gl hf". I haven't been that frustrated over a video game for a pretty long while. Took me well over 100000 worth of repairs to complete a single cave (and no I didn't kill that pack).
Roll a monk.
I fought Invulnerable minion/Arcane/Somebullshit/didn't care the flying horde of locus. Those bastards merk'd my teammates so hard, I had to kite the fuck out of them. Killed them 20 seconds into enrage mode. Never felt so proud to die 3 times lmao. |
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| TangyOrange Singapore. June 30 2012 23:06. Posts 52 | Profile # |
| Well, the topic isn't really about qqing about how hard they are, but rather how smart mobs are. Why did blizzard make them so smart when they could have been working on making our followers smarter? Haha. |
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