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  XaI)CyRiC   United States. June 30 2012 08:33. Posts 4155Profile # 
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  XaI)CyRiC   United States. June 30 2012 08:37. Posts 4155Profile # 
Looks like the Mo Will and Odom deal involving LAC, DAL and UTA is going to happen. Thoughts?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/221892/Mo_Williams_Agrees_To_Trade_To_Jazz
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 P7GAB   Canada. June 30 2012 08:40. Posts 391
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anyone know if the raptors drafted a good player?
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 slyboogie   United States. June 30 2012 08:45. Posts 2829
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Provided we get some back court depth - aka, replacing Nick Young and Randy Foye with more than just Eric Bledsoe, this is a fine trade. Odom's only getting 8million for next year, I think, and it may even be non-guaranteed (have to check,) so the contract doesn't bother me. He really is a bit of a headcase but he has had a really tough life. I think he was on the Clippers when his son passed away from SIDS, that was pretty sad. Anyways, I'd be glad to have him back on the team.

Dunno what the Jazz really want with Mo but I suppose I should thank them
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 slyboogie   United States. June 30 2012 08:49. Posts 2829
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On June 30 2012 08:40 P7GAB wrote:
anyone know if the raptors drafted a good player?


John Henson and Doron Lamb.

Henson is a UNC Junior, a bean-pole sort of player. I don't know why they took him, exactly, they have Larry Sanders and Ekpe Udoh already. But he's NBA ready and was definitely projected to be a lottery player. Don't look for him to be a star but he's a contributer.

Doron Lamb played guard on Kentucky in the back court with Marquis Teague. He's a bit of a gunner with a nice shot but his lack of wingspan and middling athleticism will make it tough for him. His career will go where his jumpshot takes it.
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 BloodNinja   United States. June 30 2012 08:52. Posts 2062
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Yay! The Wizards got Beal! I figured that somehow that wasnt going to happen. Either from someone trading up or the Wizards durping with their pick.
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 ShoCkeyy   June 30 2012 09:02. Posts 3408
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Anything about Allen coming to Miami? My boss says that wade will get the boot, but he's talking shit imo.
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 Qaatar   June 30 2012 09:12. Posts 1329
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If there's one guy who will stay a Heat player for the rest of his career, it'll be Wade. Riley will trade LBJ before he dares to trade Wade.
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  ecstatica   United States. June 30 2012 09:12. Posts 542Profile Blog # 
Still so sickened by the fact that we didn't get White

Why didn't they trade up? We had 3 picks, not 2 ffs. Plus stiffs from last year are still on the team. Cant believe Ainge couldnt work with 21st and 22nd picks.

At least Sullinger kid should be game ready, I hope his back won't fall apart

They just made an offer to Stiemsma, I know it could be a preventive measure only but why the fuck do they need all these big men? I'd take Steamer over all these rooks so why draft Fab Melo in the first place?
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  ecstatica   United States. June 30 2012 09:14. Posts 542Profile Blog # 

On June 30 2012 09:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Anything about Allen coming to Miami? My boss says that wade will get the boot, but he's talking shit imo.


Fans in Miami always knowledgeable
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 Itsmedudeman   United States. June 30 2012 09:22. Posts 8499
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I actually had a dream LBJ got traded back to the cavs. Although everyone knows the whole city would take him back in an instant if they could.
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 rebdomine   June 30 2012 09:35. Posts 1823
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Gah, another year of disappointment as a Rockets fan.

Really wish we'd stop being stuck at picking 14th. But the way the roster stands, we'll be picking 14th again next year.

Oh, and about the trade assets. We pretty much lost all leverage because we have like 8 PFs on the roster. Everyone knows the Rockets have to trade people, so other GMs are gonna start lowballing.
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 wussleeQ   United States. June 30 2012 09:44. Posts 1625
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On June 30 2012 08:37 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Looks like the Mo Will and Odom deal involving LAC, DAL and UTA is going to happen. Thoughts?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/221892/Mo_Williams_Agrees_To_Trade_To_Jazz

Really don't like Odom as a clipper fan. He was just horrible last year and seems INCREDIBLY IMMATURE... but getting rid of the roadblock at PG was okay.
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 Holcan   Canada. June 30 2012 10:23. Posts 2489
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On June 30 2012 08:49 slyboogie wrote:

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John Henson and Doron Lamb.

Henson is a UNC Junior, a bean-pole sort of player. I don't know why they took him, exactly, they have Larry Sanders and Ekpe Udoh already. But he's NBA ready and was definitely projected to be a lottery player. Don't look for him to be a star but he's a contributer.

Doron Lamb played guard on Kentucky in the back court with Marquis Teague. He's a bit of a gunner with a nice shot but his lack of wingspan and middling athleticism will make it tough for him. His career will go where his jumpshot takes it.

He said the Raptors xD you explained the bucks ~ :D


To answer his question, No, no they didn't. However its incredibly hard to judge how players will bridge the gap between NCAA and NBA, so he may be worth it. All reports say is that they could've traded down and still got the player, so a bit of a botched pick from that perspective.

Jonas Valaciunas is the real focus for Toronto rookies anyways, if he can produce in the NBA like he did in Lithuania, than he should be competing for ROTY votes, which will ultimately go to an American no doubt, due to the hype machine that is the Brow.
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 Jepsyn   Canada. June 30 2012 10:26. Posts 316
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I am so confused with Dion Waiters at 4?? Might be the worst high pick since Darko Milicic at 2
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 MassHysteria   United States. June 30 2012 10:29. Posts 2194
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OJ Mayo an UFA now. Anyone remember when he was supposed to be the next Kobe/MJ out of high school...now he doesn't even get a qualifying offer -_- ...but I would imagine he has no problem with it. He gets to choose where he goes next. Green jersey incoming?
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise.
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  ecstatica   United States. June 30 2012 10:37. Posts 542Profile Blog # 

On June 30 2012 10:29 MassHysteria wrote:
OJ Mayo an UFA now. Anyone remember when he was supposed to be the next Kobe/MJ out of high school...now he doesn't even get a qualifying offer -_- ...but I would imagine he has no problem with it. He gets to choose where he goes next. Green jersey incoming?


I only have a small problem with him - he got bitch-slapped by TA. But they say TA is not someone to mess with, Mayo learned it a hard way.

Doc can make him into a decent player for sure, question is - will he produce like one this year?
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 shawster   Canada. June 30 2012 10:37. Posts 2269
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On June 30 2012 10:26 Jepsyn wrote:
I am so confused with Dion Waiters at 4?? Might be the worst high pick since Darko Milicic at 2


big knee jerk reaction. while 4 might have been a little high waiters was going in the 1st 10 picks no doubt. his position moving from like 30th to 4th is a red flag, however. iunno it just seems really sneaky, but the scouts saw something in him during workouts.

i really wish barnes would've fell to the raptors. imo ross looks like a more consistent pick but less potential. ross averaged something crazy like 27points a game during the NIT tournament, shows you that he can really take over games, something that barnes didn't show he was able to do during the ncaa tourney. that washington team won the pac-12 and didn't make it to the tournament. i think they were the last team shafted, brutal.

interesting how all the baylor guys fell so low haha.

and valanciunas is gonna be HUGE. i'm excited for the raps next year, because it could be the start of something cool or just another,well, raptors season...
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 MassHysteria   United States. June 30 2012 10:47. Posts 2194
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On June 30 2012 10:26 Jepsyn wrote:
I am so confused with Dion Waiters at 4?? Might be the worst high pick since Darko Milicic at 2
Even if he does pan out, the real mistake is if CLE didn''t consider trading down some spots to pick up some assets and then still be in a position to draft him. Rumors (or at least the impression his agent gave off) is that he had been guaranteed to be picked by a team in the lottery( he didn't attend any workouts he was invited to) so it would be interesting to see if that is why they didn't pursue that more.

Although it is hard to tell if Waiter's "guaranteed pick" claim was true or not (from outside looking in as we are), we can say that his agent did a great job. He either bluffed and got his client more money, or he told the truth and got his client more money. Well played by him. As for Cleveland, it is too soon to tell if it was well played by them or not. Whether or not, someone was going to take him before their next chance (had they traded down) will not impact his evaluation as a #4-drafted player in a few years down the road.
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 slyboogie   United States. June 30 2012 10:52. Posts 2829
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On June 30 2012 10:23 Holcan wrote:

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He said the Raptors xD you explained the bucks ~ :D


To answer his question, No, no they didn't. However its incredibly hard to judge how players will bridge the gap between NCAA and NBA, so he may be worth it. All reports say is that they could've traded down and still got the player, so a bit of a botched pick from that perspective.

Jonas Valaciunas is the real focus for Toronto rookies anyways, if he can produce in the NBA like he did in Lithuania, than he should be competing for ROTY votes, which will ultimately go to an American no doubt, due to the hype machine that is the Brow.


God, when did I get so stooopid. Anyways, they reached for Terrence Ross, I believe. Athletic and can shoot, not terrible. Holcan's right though...it's all about Valaciunas.
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